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Have any wingers apologized to the Pelosis?

EatTheRich

President
No it mentioned the millions dead because of blah blah something blah blah. This from a guy that is a proponent of communism and socialism, whose tenets we're born out on the backs of millions upon millions of tortured and dead. But go ahead Babylon about the Ukrainian leanings towards the nazis. A subject you absolutely know zero about other than the cutesy things you pull out of Wikipedia
A revolution is not a tea party. It remains a fact that communism has prolonged the lives of dozens of times as many as it prematurely killed, hence the life expectancy skyrocketing in every country that has become socialist and plummeting in Russia, Ukraine, and every other socialist country (excluding China and E. Germany) that has reverted to capitalism.
 

EatTheRich

President
Let me get this straight...he was sent to Sachsenhausen in 1944 because he was Nazi and killed by Soviet agents in West Germany in 1959 because he was a communist?

So is the guy a nazi or a communist?
He was a right-wing, anticommunist Nazi collaborator who briefly found himself at cross purposes with the Nazi regime.
 

EatTheRich

President
The ukrainians use whomever they could use to achieve their goal. An independent ukraine. Apparently he was a Nazi when it suits people despite his being sent to a concentration camp because of his attempts to liberate Ukraine and declare it independence. Hitler ordered that by the way. Meanwhile 6 Plus million ukrainians died fighting off the Nazis. But every shit bag here with a link to Wikipedia things they know everything about Nazism and Ukraine and bandera. The Galician region the west of ukraine, poland, the former austro-hungarian areas were a shit hole of slaughter from the late 1930s forward. But I know, let's pull up a chair and read the musings of some of the experts here
The Ukrainians who wanted to fight the Nazis were with the Red Army. The Ukrainian Insurgent Army was composed of Ukrainians who welcomed the Nazis as their allies, who later found themselves obliged to fight the Nazis due to the inflexibility of the Nazi war machine and the racial ideology of the Nazi regime.
 

PhilFish

Administrator
Staff member
A revolution is not a tea party. It remains a fact that communism has prolonged the lives of dozens of times as many as it prematurely killed, hence the life expectancy skyrocketing in every country that has become socialist and plummeting in Russia, Ukraine, and every other socialist country (excluding China and E. Germany) that has reverted to capitalism.
Baloney. Senseless slaughter and misery
 

PhilFish

Administrator
Staff member
The Ukrainians who wanted to fight the Nazis were with the Red Army. The Ukrainian Insurgent Army was composed of Ukrainians who welcomed the Nazis as their allies, who later found themselves obliged to fight the Nazis due to the inflexibility of the Nazi war machine and the racial ideology of the Nazi regime.
Wanted? Conscripted.
 

Jack4freedom

Governor
Ooh ooh ooh - I'l volunteer to go first...just as soon as the Pelosis apologize for being corrupt insider traders.
Any evidence or just more of your usual bullshit? The disgusting campaign of hate speech against this venerable elderly woman is what caused this Trump cultist to try to kill her husband. Mrs. Pelosi is a well known quantity here in America. She is an incredible woman who has accomplished many great things in her lifetime. After raising 5 children she ran for the US Congress and rose to become the first woman to become Speaker Of The House. Lying ass holes have created some evil creature that is unrecognizable when compared to the reality of Mrs Pelosi’s life and accomplishments. She will go down in US History as one of our great public servants. Buildings, streets, high schools and other public entities will be named after her. Maybe a faulty sewage treatment plant will someday be named after Donald Trump.


BTW: Opinion pieces from Fox News or right wing kook sites does not count as evidence.
 

Bugsy McGurk

President
Any evidence or just more of your usual bullshit? The disgusting campaign of hate speech against this venerable elderly woman is what caused this Trump cultist to try to kill her husband. Mrs. Pelosi is a well known quantity here in America. She is an incredible woman who has accomplished many great things in her lifetime. After raising 5 children she ran for the US Congress and rose to become the first woman to become Speaker Of The House. Lying ass holes have created some evil creature that is unrecognizable when compared to the reality of Mrs Pelosi’s life and accomplishments. She will go down in US History as one of our great public servants. Buildings, streets, high schools and other public entities will be named after her. Maybe a faulty sewage treatment plant will someday be named after Donald Trump.


BTW: Opinion pieces from Fox News or right wing kook sites does not count as evidence.
Well put. She really is a remarkable woman. And yet this Trump cultist was so brainwashed with hate from the likes of Fox News that he smashed his way into her house so he could break her kneecaps with a hammer. But we just don’t see wingers who are disturbed by that. And the worst of them wish he succeeded in hunting her down.

So deplorable.
 

middleview

President
Supporting Member
He was a right-wing, anticommunist Nazi collaborator who briefly found himself at cross purposes with the Nazi regime.
He collaborated because he saw a chance to gain independence from Moscow. The enemy of my enemy is my friend.

The Soviets were our allies against Germany in WWII. We sent them millions in weapons during the war, losing hundreds of American lives to do that. Does that make the US a communist country?
 

Raoul_Luke

I feel a bit lightheaded. Maybe you should drive.
Any evidence or just more of your usual bullshit? The disgusting campaign of hate speech against this venerable elderly woman is what caused this Trump cultist to try to kill her husband. Mrs. Pelosi is a well known quantity here in America. She is an incredible woman who has accomplished many great things in her lifetime. After raising 5 children she ran for the US Congress and rose to become the first woman to become Speaker Of The House. Lying ass holes have created some evil creature that is unrecognizable when compared to the reality of Mrs Pelosi’s life and accomplishments. She will go down in US History as one of our great public servants. Buildings, streets, high schools and other public entities will be named after her. Maybe a faulty sewage treatment plant will someday be named after Donald Trump.


BTW: Opinion pieces from Fox News or right wing kook sites does not count as evidence.
Sorry Jack but that awful shilling for corrupt a**holes just garnered you my first (and hopefully only) ignore.
 

middleview

President
Supporting Member
A revolution is not a tea party. It remains a fact that communism has prolonged the lives of dozens of times as many as it prematurely killed, hence the life expectancy skyrocketing in every country that has become socialist and plummeting in Russia, Ukraine, and every other socialist country (excluding China and E. Germany) that has reverted to capitalism.
Pretty odd attempt at some very dark math. The millions murdered by the Soviets or Chinese communists were a small price to pay because the ones they didn't murder lived longer.
 

EatTheRich

President
He collaborated because he saw a chance to gain independence from Moscow. The enemy of my enemy is my friend.

The Soviets were our allies against Germany in WWII. We sent them millions in weapons during the war, losing hundreds of American lives to do that. Does that make the US a communist country?
No, but it does mean the U.S. aided in creating the Soviet domination of Eastern Europe.
 

EatTheRich

President
Pretty odd attempt at some very dark math. The millions murdered by the Soviets or Chinese communists were a small price to pay because the ones they didn't murder lived longer.
Most of those “killed by communists” were killed by the counterrevolution. Especially in the USSR where millions were killed for staying loyal to communism and resisting Stalin’s efforts to do away with it. Anyway, were the deaths in the American Civil War worth the victory? The war against Hitler? Are you a pacifist or is it your view that sometimes violence must be employed to create a better future?
 

PhilFish

Administrator
Staff member
Pretty odd attempt at some very dark math. The millions murdered by the Soviets or Chinese communists were a small price to pay because the ones they didn't murder lived longer.
Pretty odd attempts to entirely rewrite the history of mankind and the abject poverty that was communism and efforts pertaining there too
 

middleview

President
Supporting Member
Most of those “killed by communists” were killed by the counterrevolution. Especially in the USSR where millions were killed for staying loyal to communism and resisting Stalin’s efforts to do away with it. Anyway, were the deaths in the American Civil War worth the victory? The war against Hitler? Are you a pacifist or is it your view that sometimes violence must be employed to create a better future?
Unreal...you equate Stalin's murder of millions to that war to end slavery. The murders of millions of Chinese people was not the same as the war against the fascism that invaded Europe or the imperial occupation of China, Vietnam and Korea.
 

middleview

President
Supporting Member
No, but it does mean the U.S. aided in creating the Soviet domination of Eastern Europe.
Should we have stood by to let Hitler conquer Russia? Should we have known that soviet troops would stay in those countries and impose communist governments?
 

PhilFish

Administrator
Staff member
No, but it does mean the U.S. aided in creating the Soviet domination of Eastern Europe.
If by aided in creating you mean by drawing a line in the Sand when Russia gobbled up its neighbors, ensuring that it's hegemony would not spread any further, then yes they aided the rest of the world in thwarting that advance. Everything else was solely and in fact the Soviet domination of Eastern Europe by conquest and assimilation. Nothing more.
 
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