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holding back the winds of war

Days

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Okay, now for the fun stuff.
What the hell is a preacher doing on a political website? I've asked myself that many times and I've asked the Lord that, many times. And always the answer was the same, "just go where I send you" (which is sort of like saying I am not there yet, I wouldn't understand the answer if he told me). Okay, fine, I'm used to that, that's pretty much the standard answer to most of my prayers. We are all a work in progress. But I was driving home one of my favorite customers this morning and it dawned on me, now I finally get it... why God brought me to the fray.

I'm a strange person, I'm probably the only person to be thrown out of a half dozen churches and one synagogue; for following my faith; not for sinning, but for following the scriptures. Over 14 years back, after I barely lived through my second battle with pneumonia, I had a dream, in it, an angel (just some woman, never seen her before or since, not even in my dreams and I see a lot of dream entities over and over again in my dreams. I see my wife a lot in my dreams, that's why I tell her she's the girl of my dreams) so this angel walks up to me in my dream and she says she wrote this song for me - ooooookay - an angel wrote a song for me, and I've never even met this angel before, see, that makes me different, those are the kind of memories that make me strange. She sung this to me, and there are no words to describe what an angel singing to you sounds like, the closest I can find on earth is Jewel Kilcher, imagine Jewel singing a song she wrote for you, and even Jewel doesn't quite get there, this was such a pretty voice, wow, what can I tell you? It was a dream. I woke up and wrote down the words, but without the angel singing it, * sigh * ~~ well here's the words...

Let the voices of sweet salutation remind me...
Let the reunion of your heart fill the sum inside me...
Let the warmth of your smile wrap around my days...
And every day is an anthem that walks along beside me...


I had a sister that died when I was born. I always felt she was like an angel watching over my shoulder. Hell, who knows, maybe this was her? probably not, but it seemed like this angel had been watching over me... and wrote a song for me. cool.

So, yeah, why the fray? Why political jack? Now, I think I'm beginning to understand. After all, what does all this world politics have to with us? Since when did we ever have governments of the people, by the people, for the people? empty words.

But it dawned on me this morning, the manchild, the saints, they are the small child that leads us into the kingdom, they are caught up (raptured) in the first resurrection, but so was Enoch caught up in heaven and so was St John, and the thing about that is... you still live out your carnal life after wards. So they are caught up with the saints in the first resurrection, but they go on living their lives and the BEAST'S GOVERNMENT PERSECUTES THEM, which means they are here on earth still. And the verse, "we shall reign on earth" ... when Christ returns and cans the devil and tosses the Beast into a Lake of Fire, the kingdom is given to the saints... which includes the saints that live through the 7th seal. Jesus taught us to pray for this... "thy kingdom come" ~ we are looking at arrival time... a dozen years to the 7th seal, and seven years for that seal, so what is that? 19 years? Jen says she wants to live to see it, well, hells bells Jen, start working on it right now, we've only got a dozen years to train up the saints for this, to initiate a civilization that will break into dust all the old civilizations.

Where else would God send you to prepare for a work like that? This is the only place, there is no other place to ready a new world government of righteousness to replace the rotten world government we currently live with.

Come Lord Jesus
whoa, this just struck me.

I was reading over those four lines the angel sang to me. Trying to figure out what they might mean...

I remember I was deep in sleep, it was two or three in the morning, back in the times when I would have been dead to the world, so I was really gone, way gone over to the other side. All I remember of the dream was this woman telling me she wrote this song for me ... she was kind of plain Jane, blond hair, I remember I didn't recognize her in the dream, didn't know her, I'm not sure how I knew she was an angel, it was in the dream. I can't remember her voice, or how she sung the lines, except I remember it was slow and beautiful and I was awestruck by her voice.

okay, but reading this over, it hit me, would if this angel was assigned to get me through the pneumonia alive. (I should have died, it was ridiculous that I lived through that, that's another story) The dream happened in May, I was healthy enough to return to work, so this could have been mission accomplished for this angel and she was signing off. Look at the words, this song seems to be saying, my time protecting you is finished, but I will treasure the time together until I see you again when you come here where I am...

Let the voices of sweet salutation remind me...
this could be her in a company of angels greeting my arrival in heaven, and she is saying to herself and me, let this moment of greeting remind me of the time I watched over you, to keep you alive to make it to this moment...
Let the reunion of your heart fill the sum inside me...
this is an incredible expression of love, we don't get too much of this down here, do we?
Let the warmth of your smile wrap around my days...
And every day is an anthem that walks along beside me...

I can't quite peg this down, if it is looking forward to the time ahead after we are rejoined in the body of Christ, or if maybe she was saying that each day she is waiting and watching the rest of my life on earth, it is special to her?

Anyway, pretty cool.

It was cool I happened to come across a copy of the cover to a book I wrote this in. (I grabbed whatever was close, it was the middle of the night) The book ended up going to the trash, but I guess I made a copy of the dream song before I tossed it out. How that sheet of paper made it to one of my desk drawers in this apartment in Downers Grove (survived the move from Brookfield and 14 1/2 years of throwing out old files, I try to keep a clean room) ...

I never thought about what the dream song might have meant.
 
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Days

Commentator
Has anyone noticed all the armies that are facing off each other around the river Euphrates? And yet, they seem restrained from going to battle? That's because the forces in heaven are holding back the battle until we can finish teaching the saints what is happening in the apocalypse. Soon, the brethren will understand the vision and the battle will be released, and what you have there is the beginning of World War III. Once it is unleashed, it should go fast.

Revelation chapter 7:
1 And after these things I saw four angels standing on the four corners of the earth, holding the four winds of the earth, that the wind should not blow on the earth, nor on the sea, nor on any tree. 2 And I saw another angel ascending from the east, having the seal of the living God: and he cried with a loud voice to the four angels, to whom it was given to hurt the earth and the sea, 3 Saying, Hurt not the earth, neither the sea, nor the trees, till we have sealed the servants of our God in their foreheads.


Revelation chapter 9:
13 And the sixth angel sounded, and I heard a voice from the four horns of the golden altar which is before God, 14 Saying to the sixth angel which had the trumpet, Loose the four angels which are bound in the great river Euphrates. 15 And the four angels were loosed, which were prepared for an hour, and a day, and a month, and a year, for to slay the third part of men.
 

Jen

Trump 2020
Has anyone noticed all the armies that are facing off each other around the river Euphrates? And yet, they seem restrained from going to battle? That's because the forces in heaven are holding back the battle until we can finish teaching the saints what is happening in the apocalypse. Soon, the brethren will understand the vision and the battle will be released, and what you have there is the beginning of World War III. Once it is unleashed, it should go fast.

Revelation chapter 7:
1
And after these things I saw four angels standing on the four corners of the earth, holding the four winds of the earth, that the wind should not blow on the earth, nor on the sea, nor on any tree. 2 And I saw another angel ascending from the east, having the seal of the living God: and he cried with a loud voice to the four angels, to whom it was given to hurt the earth and the sea, 3 Saying, Hurt not the earth, neither the sea, nor the trees, till we have sealed the servants of our God in their foreheads.


Revelation chapter 9:
13
And the sixth angel sounded, and I heard a voice from the four horns of the golden altar which is before God, 14 Saying to the sixth angel which had the trumpet, Loose the four angels which are bound in the great river Euphrates. 15 And the four angels were loosed, which were prepared for an hour, and a day, and a month, and a year, for to slay the third part of men.
You are right. Once it is unleashed, it won't take long for it to finish.
 

Winston

Do you feel lucky, Punk
I think we all hope that the proper balances will be restored and no one will have to melt anything into a river of blood and flesh. But evil doesn't rest unless it's properly contained. Containment of evil is the best we can hope for however it comes to pass.
I know we all hope someone gets the right medications
 

Days

Commentator
What makes you so confident in that prediction - that Christ will return 11 years from now?
  • personal revelation
  • 32 years of special anointing in this ministry
  • prophecy
So, I spelled out the prophecy in my blog 14 years ago....


Friday, October 21, 2005
Teetering on the edge
Are you ready? Another chance, one last moment, hold your breath, because it is coming...


Off in the distance, I can see something taking shape, and it is just up the road, it won't be long, and we are the ones who will live it, we are the ones.


I studied and studied and studied, just so I would recognize it when it arrived. And now I can see a light up the road, and I already know what it is, just like when you come up on a city on the map; there it is, just like the map told you, here it comes.

And the whole damn world is teetering on an edge, ready to fall. And the forces are gathering, and the storm clouds are gathering, and the fight over oil is already started, and now the God awful truth is taking hold, the overpopulated earth, political systems set up for sparse population unable to hold the explosion, and the crazy hell that breaks loose in their madness, only this time the fuel runs on and on because we are the fuel that fuels the fire.

2500 years ago, one of those crazy little kings took an army across a small tract of land and stole a small land, stole their men, wives, and kids, burned down the cities, led away slaves, it happened all the time. But this particular time the tiny conquered people was the remnants of the family started by a herdsman and two wives over a thousand years earlier, and God was faithful to this tribe, and kept them in that tiny king's city and kept them alive through all the crazy times, and kept them for two and a half millennia. Then in 1951-53 with a stretched out arm, God returned the remnants of a thousand generations, and brought that little tribe back to the land where their forefathers had been conquered, to the land where Jesus was born, to the promised land where Abraham wandered and wondered, where a thousand generations have been blinded, where nothing good seems to happen, and never much did.

And with that tiny unnoticed sweep of Iraq and Iran, in a moments time, almost too fast to realize it had really happened, God fulfilled his promise to that ancient tribe, and set the stage for the last generation. A promise Jesus saw 2000 years ago, the rekindling of life to the tribe of Judah, the rebirth of the nation Israel, the fig tree reborn, and now it began. The final generation lasts 70 or 80 years, likely the later, because Isaiah said the end would linger and we would have to wait for it but it would surely come. And men would give up on the day, and quit believing it would come, and they would no longer carry signs in the street stating the end is near because they would, like the children at the base of Sinai, give up on the return of the chosen one.

And now it is forgotten, and the hope is vanished, and no one expects to see a real return, no one looks for tribulation and the apocalypse and Jesus returning with all the saints in this generation... It's back to work for Pharaoh because there are bricks to be made.

But I figure 1952 + 80 years = 2032. So, it isn't over yet. If the final seven years were to begin in the fall of 1928, the resurrection will take place in the Spring of 1932. That still leaves plenty of time for the fourth horse. In the mean time the great tribulation is brewing as sure as New Orleans dikes were bound to give way. We are in the third horse at the moment: the black horse of economics. Soon the fourth rider will bust out. My guess is 2015-2022. Just ahead, right up the road. Exactly where the map of the prophets placed it.
 

Days

Commentator
  • personal revelation
  • 32 years of special anointing in this ministry
  • prophecy
So, I spelled out the prophecy in my blog 14 years ago....


Friday, October 21, 2005
Teetering on the edge
Are you ready? Another chance, one last moment, hold your breath, because it is coming...


Off in the distance, I can see something taking shape, and it is just up the road, it won't be long, and we are the ones who will live it, we are the ones.


I studied and studied and studied, just so I would recognize it when it arrived. And now I can see a light up the road, and I already know what it is, just like when you come up on a city on the map; there it is, just like the map told you, here it comes.

And the whole damn world is teetering on an edge, ready to fall. And the forces are gathering, and the storm clouds are gathering, and the fight over oil is already started, and now the God awful truth is taking hold, the overpopulated earth, political systems set up for sparse population unable to hold the explosion, and the crazy hell that breaks loose in their madness, only this time the fuel runs on and on because we are the fuel that fuels the fire.

2500 years ago, one of those crazy little kings took an army across a small tract of land and stole a small land, stole their men, wives, and kids, burned down the cities, led away slaves, it happened all the time. But this particular time the tiny conquered people was the remnants of the family started by a herdsman and two wives over a thousand years earlier, and God was faithful to this tribe, and kept them in that tiny king's city and kept them alive through all the crazy times, and kept them for two and a half millennia. Then in 1951-53 with a stretched out arm, God returned the remnants of a thousand generations, and brought that little tribe back to the land where their forefathers had been conquered, to the land where Jesus was born, to the promised land where Abraham wandered and wondered, where a thousand generations have been blinded, where nothing good seems to happen, and never much did.

And with that tiny unnoticed sweep of Iraq and Iran, in a moments time, almost too fast to realize it had really happened, God fulfilled his promise to that ancient tribe, and set the stage for the last generation. A promise Jesus saw 2000 years ago, the rekindling of life to the tribe of Judah, the rebirth of the nation Israel, the fig tree reborn, and now it began. The final generation lasts 70 or 80 years, likely the later, because Isaiah said the end would linger and we would have to wait for it but it would surely come. And men would give up on the day, and quit believing it would come, and they would no longer carry signs in the street stating the end is near because they would, like the children at the base of Sinai, give up on the return of the chosen one.

And now it is forgotten, and the hope is vanished, and no one expects to see a real return, no one looks for tribulation and the apocalypse and Jesus returning with all the saints in this generation... It's back to work for Pharaoh because there are bricks to be made.

But I figure 1952 + 80 years = 2032. So, it isn't over yet. If the final seven years were to begin in the fall of 1928, the resurrection will take place in the Spring of 1932. That still leaves plenty of time for the fourth horse. In the mean time the great tribulation is brewing as sure as New Orleans dikes were bound to give way. We are in the third horse at the moment: the black horse of economics. Soon the fourth rider will bust out. My guess is 2015-2022. Just ahead, right up the road. Exactly where the map of the prophets placed it.
I realized after I wrote this, that the 4th horse actually began with the fall of the twin towers... so the 4th seal was already opened. My guess of 2015-2022 was pretty good for the 5th seal, which coincides with the holding back of the winds of war; the 4 angels bound up in the river Euphrates. The dogs of war are released in the 7th seal, right around 2030ish is a good guess. The years are guesses, but the guesses are based upon study. The thing is, the times are upon us.

So, look at the river Euphrates. Upstream you have the political lines on the map that make up the nation of Turkey, but living within eastern Turkey along the Euphrates are the Kurds, and they have lived there a long damn time, they are likely the descendants of the Hittite Empire, and their people stretch the whole of ancient Mesopotamia; all the way downstream through modern Syria and across northern Iraq... all up and down the river Euphrates.

So, politics, and this political battle between a sovereign nation (Turkey) and an ancient people who don't give a damn about the lines drawn on a map (The Kurds). And somehow, incredibly, Turkey ends up joining NATO, while even more incredibly, the Kurds just allied with Syria and Russia; what was Trump to do? If he stayed, it was World War III. So he did the smart thing and got the hell out of there. But all the armies are still over there, ready to ignite the powder keg... waiting for the angels to be released. I've seen online where Christians have defined the 4 angels with the forces that are present in the region. I guess that would boil down to Turkey and NATO against the Kurds and Russia. Already political winds in our nation are blowing... demanding that we get back in the fight.

So the timing is there, it is all happening right before our eyes. The 3rd seal was global economics; world trade. The 4th seal was global tribulation; a time of trouble and upheaval. The 5th seal is a time of restraint, while we preach the word and build the manchild... but the winds of war are bound up in the river Euphrates, ready to blow. The 6th seal is a sign of Jesus return in the heavens (sun is darkened, moon turns red for likely weeks on end). The 7th seal will see the release of the angels bound in the river Euphrates... how close is that? I'm guessing 2030ish.
 

Days

Commentator
The press has been very quiet about the conflict in Syria, after Trump pulled back, it seems it isn't important anymore. It gives us the feeling that hostilities ended just because we are not part of them. But I found a paragraph in today's news that shows this isn't the case....

UN Chief Warns ‘A Wind of Madness Is Sweeping the Globe’ (Link)
U.N. Secretary-General Antonio Guterres warned that “a wind of madness is sweeping the globe,” pointing to escalating conflicts from Libya and Yemen to Syria and beyond.
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The secretary-general also expressed “enormous concern” at the escalation of attacks in Idlib, Syria’s last rebel-held province with a population of 3 million, and said the U.N. is “particularly worried” that the escalation now includes the Syrian and Tukish armies bombing each other. He again urged a cessation of hostilities “before the escalation comes to a situation that then becomes totally out of control.”

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Winston

Do you feel lucky, Punk
The press has been very quiet about the conflict in Syria, after Trump pulled back, it seems it isn't important anymore. It gives us the feeling that hostilities ended just because we are not part of them. But I found a paragraph in today's news that shows this isn't the case....

UN Chief Warns ‘A Wind of Madness Is Sweeping the Globe’ (Link)
U.N. Secretary-General Antonio Guterres warned that “a wind of madness is sweeping the globe,” pointing to escalating conflicts from Libya and Yemen to Syria and beyond.
.................................................................................................................................................

The secretary-general also expressed “enormous concern” at the escalation of attacks in Idlib, Syria’s last rebel-held province with a population of 3 million, and said the U.N. is “particularly worried” that the escalation now includes the Syrian and Tukish armies bombing each other. He again urged a cessation of hostilities “before the escalation comes to a situation that then becomes totally out of control.”

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The secretary general, is that like a 1000 words per minute triple D cup receptionist?
 

Days

Commentator
meanwhile along the banks of the Euphrates.....


Turkey at risk of more confrontations with Syria and Russia
By SUZAN FRASER, Associated Press - Associated Press - Thursday, February 13, 2020

ANKARA, Turkey (AP) — Direct clashes between Turkish and Syrian troops amid a Syrian government offensive in the last rebel stronghold of Idlib province are threatening to escalate into a full-blown conflict between the two neighbors and also shatter an alliance forged between Turkey and Russia.
Intent on halting the advance, Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan has vowed to take military action "everywhere in Syria" if another Turkish soldier is killed or wounded. Earlier, he warned Syrian government forces that they have until the end of February to retreat to the limits of a previously agreed cease-fire line in Idlib.
Turkey and Russia are simultaneously rivals and allies in different parts of the Middle East, including in Syria and Libya. Their interests align when it comes to gas supplies and weapons trade, even if they find themselves on opposite sides of proxy wars. And they both have a shared interest in defying U.S. influence in Syria.
Turkey and Russia had been working together to keep the calm in Idlib, negotiating cease-fires between the Moscow-supported Syrian government and the rebels, who are backed by Ankara. So far, talks between the two have failed to lift the impasse in Idlib.
As Syrian government forces advance with Russia's support, Turkey has refused to abandon its military posts in Idlib and has threatened to pressure Syrian forces to retreat. That has boxed Turkey into a corner and leaving it with few options but the possibility of a confrontation with both Syria and Russia.
The Idlib crisis comes at a time when Turkey finds itself in the middle of an economic downturn and increasingly isolated internationally. In the eastern Mediterranean region, Cyprus, Egypt, Greece and Israel have reached agreements on hydrocarbon exploration.that exclude Turkey. That has forced Turkey to reach widely criticized maritime and security deals with Libya's U.N.-recognized government.
Emre Ersen, an expert on Turkish-Russian relations at Istanbul's Marmara University, says Turkey and Russia were engaged in posturing, trying to "strengthen their hands" before they reach a new accord on Idlib, which he called “inevitable."
"Turkey would be loath to trigger a new crisis with Russia like in 2015," Ersen said, referring to punishing Russian sanctions after Ankara shot down a Russian warplane over Syria.
The U.S.-based Institute for the Study of War noted last week that “Russia has alternated between military and diplomatic phases in the campaign, slowing its progress, but facilitating Russian and pro-regime gains, both territorially and diplomatically."
"Erdogan does not bluff," said Ozgur Unluhisarcikli, director of the German Marshall Fund in Ankara . "Whenever he has threatened an intervention in Syria he has carried it through."
Unluhisarcikli said he does not think Syria, even with its backing by Russian air power, will be able to put up resistance against Turkey's military, the second-largest army in NATO,.
He added that Turkey may have been emboldened by recent statements from U.S. Secretary of State Mike Pompeo, who condemned Syrian attacks in Idlib, and James Jeffrey, the U.S. special representative for Syria, who visited Ankara on Wednesday and voiced Washington's support.
Erdogan’s threat drew a quick rebuke from Moscow, where top officials blamed Turkey for the tensions.
It remains unclear, however, whether Turkey would risk using all its military might against Syria. Russia’s military help has allowed Syrian President Bashar Assad to reclaim control of most of the country, and with the Kremlin’s blessing, Assad now wants to extend his control to Idlib.
Russian officials have argued that the Syrian offensive in Idlib became necessary because Turkey has failed to honor its obligations to rein in al-Qaida-linked militants who have mounted regular attacks against the Syrian army there and also launched raids against the Russian base in Syria.
“The exacerbation of tensions is rooted in coordinated attacks by terrorists on neighboring regions of Syria that triggered retaliatory action by the Syrian government forces,” the Russian Defense Ministry said. It charged that the militants in Idlib used civilians as shields, adding that Turkey exacerbated the situation by sending in troops and weapons.
Russian President Vladimir Putin’s spokesman Dmitry Peskov said Turkey’s failure to “neutralize terrorist groups in Idlib” encouraged their attacks. “This is inadmissible,” he said.
Turkey considers Idlib strategically important and is determined to maintain its military presence in the province to prevent a possible influx of refugees at its borders. The country, already home to 3.6 million Syrian refugees, believes that Damascus is deliberately driving displaced Syrians toward the border as a way to punish Ankara.
There are fears that after it takes Idlib, the Syrian army will advance to Turkish-controlled "secure zones" along the border, where Turkey hopes to resettle some of the refugees.
A Turkish presence in Idlib also gives it leverage in talks on Syria's future that could potentially help minimize security threats from its southern neighbor. Turkey is also concerned that a Syrian government victory in Idlib would end U.N. and other diplomatic efforts for a political resolution of the conflict.
“Everything on the ground shows that the only obstacle in front of regime forces are the Turkish soldiers,” wrote columnist Barcin Yinanc in Hurriyet Daily News newspaper. “So, basically, Turkey is giving the message that it will not leave Syria, because if it were to leave Syria then it will not have a meaningful say for the future of Syria.”
Assad's forces have been on an offensive for weeks to retake Idlib and parts of nearby Aleppo province, with backing from Russia and Iran.
The advance has unleashed a humanitarian crisis, with about 700,000 people fleeing their homes and surging north toward the Turkish border.
Two separate clashes between the Syrian and Turkish troops killed at least 13 soldiers on each side, including five Turkish soldiers who were killed Monday.
Pressing ahead with their advance, Assad's forces on Wednesday took the strategic M5 highway that runs through the rebel-held territory and links the capital to northern Syria, opening up supply routes.
For its part, Turkey has been massing troops in Idlib, rolling in armored vehicles while repeatedly calling on Russia to intervene to halt the Syrian government aggression.
The Syrian army has said the Turkish threats “will not dissuade the (Syrian) army from continuing its operations in Idlib and western Aleppo province to cleanse them of terrorism.”
Turkey's Defense Minister Hulusi Akar told The Associated Press this week that four out of dozen observation posts that Turkey set up in Idlib to monitor the cease-fire are surrounded by Syrian troops.
A Russian delegation arrived in Turkey for talks on the tensions but failed to reach an agreement on a new truce. Erdogan discussed the escalation in Idlib with Putin by telephone Wednesday, hours before he reiterated his threat to attack Syrian targets.
The Russian Defense Ministry said the top military officers of Russia and Turkey discussed Idlib in a phone call Thursday. No details were released.
In his column, Yinanc said Erdogan is forcing Putin's hand.
“Does he want to be the only power to call the shots in Syria’s future?" Yinanc asked. “The consequence of that might be military confrontation with Turkey, which ironically currently stands as the most pro-Russian country among NATO members. Or will he accept a compromise solution whereby Turkey will continue to have a say in Syria’s future?”
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Associated Press writer Vladimir Isachenkov in Moscow contributed.
 
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Days

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Okay, so the last province of northern Syria still in the hands of rebels is Idlib. Syria and Russia say they are going to take it and that the military forces resisting them are "terrorists". Problem is, those terrorists are actually composed of Turkish backed rebels combined with Turkish military. Turkey invaded northern Syria to set up a "buffer zone" with the Kurds, when the US butted out, the Kurds invited Syria and Russia to come and join them fight against Turkey. Now we have direct military attacks happening between Turkish govt forces and Syrian govt forces and both sides calling each other the enemy, that both sides say they will drive out of Idlib. Well, the bottom line is, the entire province has become a war zone, and all the civilians had to flee their homes, in the past 85 days, one million people have fled their homes.

In the past 24 hours, Syrian govt forces have made airstrikes on Turkish govt troops; so that was Russian fighter jets making those strikes. Turkey is fighting back and also is asking NATO for article 4 assistance against Russian aggression. Article 4 is where it states if any member nation is attacked, NATO sends troops to defend that nation... IOW, it brings our troops back into the warzone, but on the other side (against the Kurds). This is exactly what I have been writing about.

So there they are, the 4 angels bound in the river Euphrates; Turkey and NATO vs the Kurds and Russia/Syria. The conflict is already happening but it hasn't exploded yet, Russia and the US are keeping a lid on it.
 
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Jen

Trump 2020
Okay, so the last province of northern Syria still in the hands of rebels is Idlib. Syria and Russia say they are going to take it and that the military forces resisting them are "terrorists". Problem is, those terrorists are actually composed of Turkish backed rebels combined with Turkish military. Turkey invaded northern Syria to set up a "buffer zone" with the Kurds, when the US butted out, the Kurds invited Syria and Russia to come and join them fight against Turkey. Now we have direct military attacks happening between Turkish govt forces and Syrian govt forces and both sides calling each other the enemy, that both sides say they will drive out of Idlib. Well, the bottom line is, the entire province has become a war zone, and all the civilians had to flee their homes, in the past 85 days, one million people have fled their homes.

In the past 24 hours, Syrian govt forces have made airstrikes on Turkish govt troops; so that was Russian fighter jets making those strikes. Turkey is fighting back and also is asking NATO for article 4 assistance against Russian aggression. Article 4 is where it states if any member nation is attacked, NATO sends troops to defend that nation... IOW, it brings our troops back into the warzone, but on the other side (against the Kurds). This is exactly what I have been writing about.

So there they are, the 4 angels bound in the river Euphrates; Turkey and NATO vs the Kurds and Russia/Syria. The conflict is already happening but it hasn't exploded yet, Russia and the US are keeping a lid on it.
Why isn't this in the news?
And when will it explode and put it there?
 

Days

Commentator
Why isn't this in the news?
And when will it explode and put it there?
It is in the news, just not in the headlines.

It will explode when the four angels bound in the river Euphrates are loosed...

Revelation 9:14:
"Saying to the sixth angel which had the trumpet, Loose the four angels which are bound in the great river Euphrates."
 
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Jen

Trump 2020
It is in the news, just not in the headlines.

It will explode when the four angels bound in the river Euphrates are loosed...

Revelation 9:14:
"Saying to the sixth angel which had the trumpet, Loose the four angels which are bound in the great river Euphrates."
There are other things falling into place too. Interesting. I tapped you in another thread about plagues.
 

Days

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Days, do you really believe this stuff? Come on, you are far too intelligent to buy this...
I asked Jesus into my heart, May 13, 1981. It is a spirit, the same spirit that inspired the prophets of old. I don't know that my intellect was ever at play. If you asked my intellect what it thought of the old religion and all old religions... yeah, it is all pretty childish, it was geared toward raising children.

So, okay, here's the unveiling of the what's happening next in the spirit world; AKA, what the spirit intended to do next. So, right there, it is chronological, like a sun rising in the sky, it moves ahead in time. I'm just reading the text, so it appears, everything that was laid out - as it were - the plan - has been followed very closely. Now we come to this 5th seal and these winds of war are set to blow over the whole earth; world war III... but they are bound up; held back, in the great river Euphrates.

Do I believe that is happening over there? Seems to be the case.
 

YJ02

Council Member
Turkey invaded northern Syria to set up a "buffer zone" with the Kurds, when the US butted out,
you are conflating two issues and two geographic areas

Idlib was invaded by Turkey last spring if not earlier. The media barely reported this as it was not sexy and didn't involve Americans

Remember when Turkey shot down that Russian jet in Idlib and then they destroyed the Russian rescue crew sent to retrieve the pilot? that was 2015- Obama was President then

And Trump DID not withdraw US forces from Syria. The force that he ordered moved, so they wouldn't be sued as human shields, was a lightly armed force of about 50 men.

The US force--with British and French troops as well, and probably Jordanians-- that is there in the Kurdish areas now (oil fields) is a far larger and much better equipped force then Obama had at the border. The force there now has armor and direct support artillery.

But all of these forces are in Syria illegally

And Erdogan is playing a very dangerous game. he thinks he has complete spt from his ppl, but he doesn't (vis a vis the military coup attempted about 6 yrs ago)

He is getting Turkish troops killed in Libya helping one govt fight against the other libyan govt-the one supported by Russia

He is challenging Russia all over the place despite public pretenses; he has had his military offer military aid and training to Ukraine under NATO auspices, but he cares little for NATO

And he has just released the hordes against Europe

There are reports of refugees arriving on Greek islands in recent days. refugees who did not have to pay a fee but were smuggled for free--who do you think paid the boatmen?

He has withdrawn security forces from the Greek and Bulgarian borders allowing encouraging refugees to move on the borders all because he is made that Europe his not backing his Syrian and Libyan adventures--hardly the act of a good NATO ally

and he has hinted at trying to invoke the nato article (is it art 5?) saying that turkey is under attack to draw in NATO forces against Syria

wont work,, a nato nation cant invade another nation and then call on nato to help when that other nation fights back

Turkey under Erdogan is the true Islamic state. He supplied ISIS; allowed fighters to transit through turkey to syria, allowed supplies to isis go through, bought oil illegally from ISIS

syria is a sovereign nation and has the right to not only put down rebellion but to also fight against a foreign invasion--turkey's invasion in the north west of syria and in idlib is only prolonging the war that the syrian govt is trying to end
 
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