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holding back the winds of war

Days

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you are conflating two issues and two geographic areas

Idlib was invaded by Turkey last spring if not earlier. The media barely reported this as it was not sexy and didn't involve Americans

Remember when Turkey shot down that Russian jet in Idlib and then they destroyed the Russian rescue crew sent to retrieve the pilot? that was 2015- Obama was President then

And Trump DID not withdraw US forces from Syria. The force that he ordered moved, so they wouldn't be sued as human shields, was a lightly armed force of about 50 men.

The US force--with British and French troops as well, and probably Jordanians-- that is there in the Kurdish areas now (oil fields) is a far larger and much better equipped force then Obama had at the border. The force there now has armor and direct support artillery.

But all of these forces are in Syria illegally

And Erdogan is playing a very dangerous game. he thinks he has complete spt from his ppl, but he doesn't (vis a vis the military coup attempted about 6 yrs ago)

He is getting Turkish troops killed in Libya helping one govt fight against the other libyan govt-the one supported by Russia

He is challenging Russia all over the place despite public pretenses; he has had his military offer military aid and training to Ukraine under NATO auspices, but he cares little for NATO

And he has just released the hordes against Europe

There are reports of refugees arriving on Greek islands in recent days. refugees who did not have to pay a fee but were smuggled for free--who do you think paid the boatmen?

He has withdrawn security forces from the Greek and Bulgarian borders allowing encouraging refugees to move on the borders all because he is made that Europe his not backing his Syrian and Libyan adventures--hardly the act of a good NATO ally

and he has hinted at trying to invoke the nato article (is it art 5?) saying that turkey is under attack to draw in NATO forces against Syria

wont work,, a nato nation cant invade another nation and then call on nato to help when that other nation fights back

Turkey under Erdogan is the true Islamic state. He supplied ISIS; allowed fighters to transit through turkey to syria, allowed supplies to isis go through, bought oil illegally from ISIS

syria is a sovereign nation and has the right to not only put down rebellion but to also fight against a foreign invasion--turkey's invasion in the north west of syria and in idlib is only prolonging the war that the syrian govt is trying to end
Take a few steps further back, and realize that what we are dealing with here is Kurdistan, broken up and parceled out to it's neighbors. But the Kurd people still live there. So it is a political map that fuels an ongoing war. Turkey is fighting the Kurds, both inside Turkey and across borders.

What is special about the moment is, the fight has become an all out battle, and yet it is still being contained. Our forces were pulled out of the battle zone, if we return to the fight still on the side of the Kurds we will be in a coalition with Russia and Syria against Turkey... that's never happening. I agree that Turkey's play to get NATO article 4 applied to this battle isn't working at the moment, but that's more of the manifestation of the spirit in the 5th seal; holding back the winds of war.
 

YJ02

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Take a few steps further back, and realize that what we are dealing with here is Kurdistan, broken up and parceled out to it's neighbors. But the Kurd people still live there. So it is a political map that fuels an ongoing war. Turkey is fighting the Kurds, both inside Turkey and across borders.

What is special about the moment is, the fight has become an all out battle, and yet it is still being contained. Our forces were pulled out of the battle zone, if we return to the fight still on the side of the Kurds we will be in a coalition with Russia and Syria against Turkey... that's never happening. I agree that Turkey's play to get NATO article 4 applied to this battle isn't working at the moment, but that's more of the manifestation of the spirit in the 5th seal; holding back the winds of war.
idlib has a very small pop of kurds, Erdogan has ambitions of returning to the glory days of empire, if not in actual land held , but also in influence

a step in this is to get back as much of syria and iraq under turkey's control as possible

in syria he is using islamic terrorists to do it. he has incorporated into the newly remade Free Syrian Army members of Al Quada and Al Nusra and other islamists-- the actual honest freedom fighters of Syria are no longer in the game

another facet of his dreams of glory is turkeys intervention in libya, i n January turkey sent combat troops their to help fight of the anti terrorist, russian, egypt and UAE backed eastern Libyan govt--at least 2-3 turkish soldiers have died there already as well

Syrian govt is the legit government of syria-they are trying to restore order and peace to that country after yrs of war. maybe its not who the west wants to win, but Assad is winning and Erdogan despises him. The responsibility of govts and armies in war is to win and bring the fighting and suffering to a quick end--Erdogan's invasion is only going to prolong this
 

Days

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idlib has a very small pop of kurds, Erdogan has ambitions of returning to the glory days of empire, if not in actual land held , but also in influence

a step in this is to get back as much of syria and iraq under turkey's control as possible

in syria he is using islamic terrorists to do it. he has incorporated into the newly remade Free Syrian Army members of Al Quada and Al Nusra and other islamists-- the actual honest freedom fighters of Syria are no longer in the game

another facet of his dreams of glory is turkeys intervention in libya, i n January turkey sent combat troops their to help fight of the anti terrorist, russian, egypt and UAE backed eastern Libyan govt--at least 2-3 turkish soldiers have died there already as well

Syrian govt is the legit government of syria-they are trying to restore order and peace to that country after yrs of war. maybe its not who the west wants to win, but Assad is winning and Erdogan despises him. The responsibility of govts and armies in war is to win and bring the fighting and suffering to a quick end--Erdogan's invasion is only going to prolong this
Now, think about this... 1924 years ago, an 80 something year old fisherman received a vision from God, and in it, he saw this mess happening right now up and down the Euphrates river, which would include ISIS, the old Republican Guard fighting guerilla warfare, the civil war in Syria and the ambitions of Turkey; all of it, in a vision, and as he is watching this, the angels are telling him what to write, and the angels are saying to hold back the four winds until the manchild church is finished emerging from the mother church, and then immediately after this tribulation we have been witnessing; out come the trumpets, and the four angels are released that are currently bound... and this mess becomes an explosion, like a gasoline depot ignited by a spark, and nuclear war erupts and 1/3rd of mankind is killed in it... and that was all recorded by the apostles of Jesus, a long, long, long time ago.

And here we are 2000 years later and we are living it.
 

Jen

Trump 2020
Now, think about this... 1924 years ago, an 80 something year old fisherman received a vision from God, and in it, he saw this mess happening right now up and down the Euphrates river, which would include ISIS, the old Republican Guard fighting guerilla warfare, the civil war in Syria and the ambitions of Turkey; all of it, in a vision, and as he is watching this, the angels are telling him what to write, and the angels are saying to hold back the four winds until the manchild church is finished emerging from the mother church, and then immediately after this tribulation we have been witnessing; out come the trumpets, and the four angels are released that are currently bound... and this mess becomes an explosion, like a gasoline depot ignited by a spark, and nuclear war erupts and 1/3rd of mankind is killed in it... and that was all recorded by the apostles of Jesus, a long, long, long time ago.

And here we are 2000 years later and we are living it.
Are you thinking nuclear? When?
No one is even paying attention to that area now.
What is the manchild church? What is the mother church? Maybe the mother church is the Roman Catholic church?
 

Days

Commentator
Are you thinking nuclear? When?
No one is even paying attention to that area now.
What is the manchild church? What is the mother church? Maybe the mother church is the Roman Catholic church?
Peter said the elements themselves would catch on fire; a perfect description of a nuclear explosion. Russia just rebuilt their nuclear arsenal and delivery, so you can bet Europe is paying attention.

Jerusalem which is above is free; the mother church is the body of Christ in heaven. (Rev ch 12) the manchild church comes out of the mother church; the last shall be first; a small child shall lead them; today's believers.

The Roman Catholic Church is in there also, but Rome is the antiChrist, the whore of Babylon. which is not the body of Christ. Babylon is full of the blood of the saints. And if you look behind all the wars, there is Rome.
 
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