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House committee on the Insurrection

PhilFish

Administrator
Staff member
I do, and everyone should, feel badly for these officers who were trying their best to perform their duties. If anyone can watch and listen to them speak withoud doing so I have no idea what may be dictating their views.

Now, with that being said, I am also honest enough to understand these are just some of the testimonies we should be presented with, not a "one and done" situation so to speak.

And, as was the case in some of the several trials I observed as a jury member, those who were wronged always gain sympathy when heard first because as a general rule people really care for one another. Say a rape or kidnapping victim. The issue is that every other position has to be presented as well, all of them considered collectively and then a determination as to who is guilty of what is made. Not after hearing only one perspective.

Otherwise every family who has a loved one killed by a train could sue a railroad and receive millions every damn time because those testifying WILL be upset and pitiful and, hey, a railroad is a cold, faceless nothing with unlimited money but depending on the other factors....
Were the cross arms not functioning and the loved one killed when their car was hit by a train?
Did the loved just decide to end it all and chose to step out in front of a train so their family can get paid?

The varying factors all matter, so I'll wait and see.

What other positions...as relates storming the capital and beating police violently?
 

middleview

President
Supporting Member
I do, and everyone should, feel badly for these officers who were trying their best to perform their duties. If anyone can watch and listen to them speak withoud doing so I have no idea what may be dictating their views.

Now, with that being said, I am also honest enough to understand these are just some of the testimonies we should be presented with, not a "one and done" situation so to speak.

And, as was the case in some of the several trials I observed as a jury member, those who were wronged always gain sympathy when heard first because as a general rule people really care for one another. Say a rape or kidnapping victim. The issue is that every other position has to be presented as well, all of them considered collectively and then a determination as to who is guilty of what is made. Not after hearing only one perspective.

Otherwise every family who has a loved one killed by a train could sue a railroad and receive millions every damn time because those testifying WILL be upset and pitiful and, hey, a railroad is a cold, faceless nothing with unlimited money but depending on the other factors....
Were the cross arms not functioning and the loved one killed when their car was hit by a train?
Did the loved just decide to end it all and chose to step out in front of a train so their family can get paid?

The varying factors all matter, so I'll wait and see.
I am hoping that the committee calls people who were in the White House to testify as well.
I want to know if any members of the Trump campaign were in contact with the organizers of the riot.
Did the Trump campaign send money to the primary groups involved in the riot...the Oath Keepers, Proud Boys, Three Percenters...
What was Trump doing from 2pm until he finally called for the rioters to go home, about three hours later.
Why did it take hours for the DoD to order guard troops to deploy.

What questions would you like answered?
 
Are there any Trump supporters listening to the testimony of the police? Does it look like a loving mob? Do you now admit that Trump has lied or do you think that the mob was escorted into the Capitol and that they were hugging the cops or were they trying to kill them?

You should be ashamed of the guy who incited that mob.
He didn't incite a fvcking thing and lefty knows it but that doesn't play well on the marxist record player.
 

UPNYA2

Mayor
What other positions...as relates storming the capital and beating police violently?
This investigation is to find why that happened, not that it did happen.

I don't deny it happened. It did happen. What I want to see is who this committee is going to claim is responsible and why them.
 

UPNYA2

Mayor
I am hoping that the committee calls people who were in the White House to testify as well.
I want to know if any members of the Trump campaign were in contact with the organizers of the riot.
Did the Trump campaign send money to the primary groups involved in the riot...the Oath Keepers, Proud Boys, Three Percenters...
What was Trump doing from 2pm until he finally called for the rioters to go home, about three hours later.
Why did it take hours for the DoD to order guard troops to deploy.

What questions would you like answered?
Any and all that anyone may have is good with me. Your's are fine too.
 

middleview

President
Supporting Member
What other positions...as relates storming the capital and beating police violently?
I think it might be interesting to hear from some of the leaders of the militia groups involved in the riot. One would be the woman who was seen on video using a bull horn to direct people inside the building to go to the offices of congressmen....
 

PhilFish

Administrator
Staff member
I've broken no rules. It's a vendetta instead. Anyone can look at this thread.

@SW48
Hey champ, after further review, we've elected permanent ban. (Principally because you can't stop being a dick, and hurling your snide insults over and over again)


@SW48 . Mods conferred, don't want Mick back. Period @bdtex
 

PhilFish

Administrator
Staff member
I think it might be interesting to hear from some of the leaders of the militia groups involved in the riot. One would be the woman who was seen on video using a bull horn to direct people inside the building to go to the offices of congressmen....
I was more interested to read what other positions might exist that warrant the storming the capital grounds and beating persons nearly to death.....
 

PhilFish

Administrator
Staff member
This investigation is to find why that happened, not that it did happen.

I don't deny it happened. It did happen. What I want to see is who this committee is going to claim is responsible and why them.
I'm pretty sure that the committee is going to claim that each and every person that visited violence upon people in the capital are the ones responsible, and I'm pretty sure the why will be because it was all captured on video, you know them beating people half to death, tazing them and so forth
 

UPNYA2

Mayor
I'm pretty sure that the committee is going to claim that each and every person that visited violence upon people in the capital are the ones responsible, and I'm pretty sure the why will be because it was all captured on video, you know them beating people half to death, tazing them and so forth
I hope that happens.
 

middleview

President
Supporting Member
I'm pretty sure that the committee is going to claim that each and every person that visited violence upon people in the capital are the ones responsible, and I'm pretty sure the why will be because it was all captured on video, you know them beating people half to death, tazing them and so forth
This wasn't a spontaneous event for the hundreds who broke the windows and pulled down the police barricades. I want to know more about the planning, emails, IMs...coordination between various right wing groups....
 

write on

Senator
I do, and everyone should, feel badly for these officers who were trying their best to perform their duties. If anyone can watch and listen to them speak withoud doing so I have no idea what may be dictating their views.

Now, with that being said, I am also honest enough to understand these are just some of the testimonies we should be presented with, not a "one and done" situation so to speak.

And, as was the case in some of the several trials I observed as a jury member, those who were wronged always gain sympathy when heard first because as a general rule people really care for one another. Say a rape or kidnapping victim. The issue is that every other position has to be presented as well, all of them considered collectively and then a determination as to who is guilty of what is made. Not after hearing only one perspective.

Otherwise every family who has a loved one killed by a train could sue a railroad and receive millions every damn time because those testifying WILL be upset and pitiful and, hey, a railroad is a cold, faceless nothing with unlimited money but depending on the other factors....
Were the cross arms not functioning and the loved one killed when their car was hit by a train?
Did the loved just decide to end it all and chose to step out in front of a train so their family can get paid?

The varying factors all matter, so I'll wait and see.
Is this how you're defending the lies against the videos showing an insurrection?
 

Bronwyn

Unapoligetically Republican
Yeah, let's not talk about the rioters at all. Let's ignore that Trump told them to go fight like hell to stop the steal...meaning stop the election process.

Would you also want to put Trump on the stand to testify about the DC riot? Nah. How about the DoD folks who took several hours to authorize guard troops on the day of the riot?

Do you have any evidence that Pelosi turned down guard troops?

Ashli Babbit was breaking the law. She was climbing through a broken window into a secure area and would certainly have opened the doors to the rioters and endangered members of congress. She wasn't murdered. She died for her illegal act.
She was unarmed, and no one knows what she was going to do. It was murder. There was no reason to shoot her.
 

middleview

President
Supporting Member
He didn't incite a fvcking thing and lefty knows it but that doesn't play well on the marxist record player.
Yeah, it was just a coincidence that Trump said go to the capitol, stop the steal, fight like hell...and minutes later there was a riot in the capitol building....
 

UPNYA2

Mayor
Is this how you're defending the lies against the videos showing an insurrection?
I defended nothing.

This IS my way of stating I want everyone of those who were responsible for and participated in this attack found and punished when the evidence is obvious for all to see.

It is also my way of saying I want to know more about who ELSE the committee will try to claim is responsible. THAT is a concern to me personally.
 

middleview

President
Supporting Member
She was unarmed, and no one knows what she was going to do. It was murder. There was no reason to shoot her.
So if someone smashed the windows on your business and started climbing in with a mob behind her you would have no reason to think she'd harm the people inside?
If you chose to shoot an intruder it is murder...right?
 

write on

Senator
I defended nothing.

This IS my way of stating I want everyone of those who were responsible for and participated in this attack found and punished when the evidence is obvious for all to see.

It is also my way of saying I want to know more about who ELSE the committee will try to claim is responsible. THAT is a concern to me personally.
There were thousands. Grab some popcorn and wait and see how many more will be found responsible.

As I understand it, there are about 400 more, so far, that the FBI/DOJ are looking for.
 
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