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How do we address the migrant crisis?

bdtex

Administrator
Staff member
You are just talking’ shit again.
They all are. This is their signature issue for 2024. Caravans of disease carrying, drug mules are crossing the borders unchecked. The leader of their party is the chief border-baiter too.
 
They all are. This is their signature issue for 2024. Caravans of disease carrying, drug mules are crossing the borders unchecked. The leader of their party is the chief border-baiter too.
Fox has all kinds of reporters there slobbering in breathless anxiety.Sad to see mostly families desperate for a new life, but they aren't white so the GOP/FOX crowd demonizes them
 
At this point no other choice but to close the border and move the military in to enforce it. Currently our Southern Border does not exist, thousands upon thousands of mainly fighting age men from all over the world are flooding the country. Declaring this a national security emergency would allow the Asylum requests to be suspended.

Which of course will not happen because all of this is by design. Nobody is this incompetent.

Oh and Biden was installed, he was not elected.
Fighting age Men?...LOL LOL LOL LOL
 

protectionist

Governor
Fox has all kinds of reporters there slobbering in breathless anxiety.Sad to see mostly families desperate for a new life, but they aren't white so the GOP/FOX crowd demonizes them
Many of the migrants are white, from European countries. Stop silly race baiting.
 

EatTheRich

President
The border is overflowing. Border cities are overflow.
What consideration should be given to aiding those arriving and in need and provide equitable support from the states...

Apportion arrivals per state/city?

How? Thoughts..?
There is, of course, no border crisis. Immigration is a net gain for the U.S.-born working class, and would continue to be with immigration numbers well in excess of current levels. This is regardless of the legal status of the immigrants. A 100% legal immigrant mass would of course be ideal, and this could be achieved by a simple change in the law with overwhelmingly positive impacts.

Is it possible for the U.S. to become so flooded with immigrants it is overwhelmed to the point of Rome-style collapse? Certainly. What are the most effective policies to avoid such a situation? Global warming mitigation and adaptation through international cooperation, and wealth redistribution through international cooperation.

What there is, of course, is a shortage of resources for all working people, immigrant and native-born alike. The U.S. provides better than the vast majority of the (overwhelmingly capitalist) countries from which the migrants are coming (due to the superprofits from imperialist exploitation), but still has an ongoing crisis of exploited labor (with arbitrary distinctions of nationality, immigration status, etc., distributing exploitation in a discriminatory fashion).

It is time we have a serious talk about whether a federation of self-governing states is the best model for the future. But, regardless, it will become an objective requirement of class and national survival to have regulations on where people live and work. So I say, let the unions decide via the dictatorship of the proletariat as an aspect of the planned economy, and regional allocation of state funds via the states, sovkhozes, or whatever alternative sub national governments have been arranged for.
 

EatTheRich

President
That part is easy, but will require a legally elected president and a non Communist Congress.
That you have.

1. Those animals have to be DEPORTED. Period! Send them to Mexico and let Mexico deal with them.
Not only inhumane and a legally defined crime against humanity, but also a recipe for an immediate economic depression. The “Day Without an Immigrant” strikes showed once and for all that the U.S. economy can’t survive a day without immigrant labor far in excess of what would be allowed legally, assuming charitably that you aren’t also arguing for all legal immigrants to be deported as “animals.”

2. The WALL has to be built, to send a message to the drug traffickers and child prostitution traffickers, since that's pretty much what is getting across here. Once there is a wall, the animals stop coming. They either stay in Mexico and deal with Mexico's immigration laws, or they get off their fat asses and do today what the American colonists did in 1776.
The wall, which has been around for decades and covers as much of the border as can be built on, does nothing to deter the commercial traffic in vice that is organized via the tacit (or overt) mediation of the border enforcement agencies. What it does is cause people to needlessly die for the crime of trying to get a job or a place to live.

3. Those animals who arrive in border cities should IMMEDIATELY be sent to sanctuary states like New York, Illinois, California, etc. Let THEIR taxpayers deal with Biden's bullschittt.
Biden is as hostile to immigration as you are, since it serves the ruling billionaires to stir up anti-immigrant hostility in order to subvert the labor solidarity needed to drive them from power. But I agree that at this point, ideally a large majority of immigrants and other politically advanced elements of the working class would be settled in big cities in economically and politically dynamic states, where they contribute the most to cutting-edge economic and political innovation.
 

EatTheRich

President
Biden did not win legally. He did NOT get 81 million legal votes. That's not even close to correct. And he is the reason those animals are coming.
Trump STOPPED those animals cold and made the agreement that the asylum scammers would have to stay in Mexico until their case came up. It was Pres. Biden who overturned the stay in Mexico thing and let those animals come in.

The idea of shipping those edited to the Sanctuary states is to cover those liberals in the very schitt they support for Texas. Let those edited drain New York's already overspending budgets.

And they are NOT migrants. Real Migrants wait their turn in line to LEGALLY emigrate to this country. Those are edited. Their presence here is a slap in the face to the MILLIONS who LEGALLY emigrated to this country. Those edited have to go.

Send them back and make them get in line behind those who are waiting patiently.
It is legal to migrate without papers to escape persecution. Biden clearly won legally and you know it. During the era of greatest economic prosperity for American workers, immigrating legally almost always consisted of showing up, taking a TB test, and telling a clerk your name.
 

EatTheRich

President
First, our immigration laws must be changed if we want to reduce the influx. Especially the asylum laws.

Second, we need a rational national conversation about what will be done with those immigrants who are here, and will come here. Work permits? Housing? A path to citizenship or other forms of legal residency? In short, we need “better rules” and those rules must come in the form of new laws enacted by Congress. But it seems that the GOP has no interest in that discussion. They prefer chaos and using the issue as just another political football. On it goes.
Both major parties are deeply divided over immigration. The business community is divided. The military is divided. The labor movement is divided. The states are divided. There are so many interests and prejudices involved, and these are reflected in political gridlock and reaction.
 

EatTheRich

President
we already have rules. there are rules surrounding legal entry. there are rules surrounding asylum, and so on.

as to housing, the streets of El Paso and similar are not adequate. where else?
San Francisco and Boston? A lot of rich white liberals in those cities who can afford the drop in income inequality that tends to follow on mass migration of oppressed races, and for whose political dominance the migrants and their labor allies would pose a threat.
 

EatTheRich

President
The rules are worthless unless they are enforced. I agree that our borders are a mess. President Biden got what he wanted with changes at the border, surely his administration has a plan now to deal with the huge influx they created.
Btw, the rules haven’t changed much (except for the Covid restrictions that were only just lifted). The difference is that the economy under Trump made people not want to immigrate the way the economy under Biden makes people want to immigrate.
 

EatTheRich

President
And barracks for many thousands. A mess hall that fed 10's of thousands at the peak.

I'm not sure how much of the infrastructure has been torn down....but that is not the only abandoned or minimally used military base in the Southwest. Better that than constructing entirely new facilities. Again....I believe the goal should be a hearing within days. I think the certainty of being deported if not eligible for asylum would discourage many potential immigrants....if they realize that the arduous journey may be in vain.
Mar-a-Lago must have accommodations for quite a few.
 

EatTheRich

President
The Biden administration does not to want to enforce the immigration laws, thus adding to the problems.
If enforced to the letter, it would mean the economic ruin of the U.S. Immigration restrictions are meant not to keep immigrants out, but to provide a pretext for discrimination bolstered by the threat of deportation and to suppress immigrant participation in and leadership of working-class rebellion and coerce immigrants into strikebreaking.
 

EatTheRich

President
And that is for the federal government to deal with. Like I said, if they want to dispurse them to sanctuary cities, fine. If they want to build a military facility and hold them there until they get their asylum hearings, fine. If they want to turn them away unless they apply through a port of entry, and then take them to a military facility, fine. But this is for the feds to deal with, not the states.
It’s first and foremost a matter of international law.
 

middleview

President
Supporting Member
The rules are worthless unless they are enforced. I agree that our borders are a mess. President Biden got what he wanted with changes at the border, surely his administration has a plan now to deal with the huge influx they created.
Trump built that great big wall...how can Biden have torn it down and nobody saw it?

The only drop in illegal immigration was in 2020 due to covid....
 

TBLee

Governor
Any evidence that Biden made sure laws were not enforced or are you just blowing it out your ass again? You have obviously never crossed the Southern US border TB. I have hundreds of times and I can assure you it is not open or any kind of free for all. You are just talking’ shit again. Try to FOCUS, TB.
We have illegal immigrants entering our Country and then being released, with no way of tracking them. That leads to a dangerous situation. Ending title 42 also helped to create the huge influx we are seeing daily now. Overcrowding is happening at processing centers. See how this works Jack, how an adult conversation happens! . Your welcome.
 
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