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I'm a conservative, as is most of AMerica. You speak for the few idiots, and the rest of us are laughing at your dumb ass. Suggesting that Joe, the RACIST FASCIST ALZHEIMER RIDDEN IDIOT who campaigned from a basement, who couldn't draw even flies at his rallies, somehow got more votes in the election than Obama?
That's just stupid beyond the pale.

Trump won. And he's going to win in 2024. And he will be working with a Republican House and Senate, and they will fix what that old fart has broken.
I only speak for myself...

How many people showed up for rallies mattered less than the number of people who showed up to vote. 80 million people disliked Trump enough to enthusiastically vote for Biden. Polls showed Trump was losing as soon as Biden announced he was running...that is why Trump tried to get Ukraine to announce an investigation....

Trump lost in a landslide....and speaking of stupid, you continue to argue that the election was stolen even though Trump's own attorney general says it wasn't...
 

God of War

Lets go Brandon!
What current source can you cite to support your opinion? I can find dozens of polls from june to now that disagree with you....

One-third of Americans believe Biden won because of voter fraud: poll

Roughly one-third of Americans believe that President Biden’s 2020 electoral victory was the result of widespread voter fraud, according to a new Monmouth University poll.

Thirty-two percent of respondents say fraud was the reason Biden won the presidential election, maintaining a trend that has taken hold over the past seven months.



In all, the poll concludes that 31 percent of Americans, or about two-thirds of registered Republicans, believe that the 2020 election was stolen as a result of voter fraud.

You run around with propaganda sources informing you. People know in their heart what happened. It was stolen.
 

God of War

Lets go Brandon!
I only speak for myself...

How many people showed up for rallies mattered less than the number of people who showed up to vote. 80 million people disliked Trump enough to enthusiastically vote for Biden. Polls showed Trump was losing as soon as Biden announced he was running...that is why Trump tried to get Ukraine to announce an investigation....

Trump lost in a landslide....and speaking of stupid, you continue to argue that the election was stolen even though Trump's own attorney general says it wasn't...
You know he's right. No way that many people showed up to vote for Biden. More than Obama? ha ha No way. Ballot stuffing and electronic chicanery.
 

middleview

President
Supporting Member
You know he's right. No way that many people showed up to vote for Biden. More than Obama? ha ha No way. Ballot stuffing and electronic chicanery.
Yes, Barr and Krebs are right. There was no substantial election fraud and there was no electronic "chicanery"....that is exactly why your attempts to find evidence of it have failed.

Your stubborn persistence doesn't make you right. It just makes you stubborn and uninformed. The continued effort to prove otherwise is further contributing to the divide between Trump supporters and everyone else.
 

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President
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Counting isn't hard. FRAUD isn't hard, especially when state workers and judges all want the election to go a certain way.
So explain why Trump's own AG says there was no substantial fraud?

You have yet to describe a plausible way to actually commit fraud. Our elections have been changed over the years to provide cross checks that have managed to catch those who try.

If you were right, how did Bush win in 2004? How did Trump win in 2016? How did so many republicans win seats in the Congress?

Face it. Your accusations are silly.
 

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President
Supporting Member
Everyone should have a midnight deadline.
So would you also require the Post Office to deliver all absentee ballots by 5pm on election day if they were postmarked by election day?

How would you process overseas ballots from the military or US citizens overseas?

When would you allow states to begin processing absentee ballots? Many states require all in person ballots be processed first, so as to allow time to update voter records that show a ballot was cast. Then when absentee ballots are validated they can see that no in person ballot for that voter was received...

Oh, and before we go taking away state control of elections and federalizing them...which is contrary to the constitution....shouldn't we expect you to prove there has been fraud?
 

God of War

Lets go Brandon!
Yes, Barr and Krebs are right. There was no substantial election fraud and there was no electronic "chicanery"....that is exactly why your attempts to find evidence of it have failed.

Your stubborn persistence doesn't make you right. It just makes you stubborn and uninformed. The continued effort to prove otherwise is further contributing to the divide between Trump supporters and everyone else.
You can huff and puff all you want but the vote better be secured to keep ALL voters happy and trusting.
 

God of War

Lets go Brandon!
So would you also require the Post Office to deliver all absentee ballots by 5pm on election day if they were postmarked by election day?

How would you process overseas ballots from the military or US citizens overseas?

When would you allow states to begin processing absentee ballots? Many states require all in person ballots be processed first, so as to allow time to update voter records that show a ballot was cast. Then when absentee ballots are validated they can see that no in person ballot for that voter was received...

Oh, and before we go taking away state control of elections and federalizing them...which is contrary to the constitution....shouldn't we expect you to prove there has been fraud?
Absentee ballots must arrive the day before or garbaged.
Overseas must arrive the day before or garbaged.
Military ballots can be done online by the day before. I'm sure the military can secure the vote.

No, the system must be secured. No need to prove that an unsecured system was defrauded in order to fix it first.
 

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President
Supporting Member
Absentee ballots must arrive the day before or garbaged.
Overseas must arrive the day before or garbaged.
Military ballots can be done online by the day before. I'm sure the military can secure the vote.

No, the system must be secured. No need to prove that an unsecured system was defrauded in order to fix it first.
So you would penalize voters for an inefficient post office...good to know..

Military ballots online? If the military can do that, why not do online voting for everyone?

The system is secured. You must prove otherwise if you expect support to supersede the constitution.
 

middleview

President
Supporting Member
You can huff and puff all you want but the vote better be secured to keep ALL voters happy and trusting.
You can huff and puff all you like, but with no evidence that the system is subject to substantial fraud you are not going to get support to override the constitution.
 
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EatTheRich

President
I'm a conservative, as is most of AMerica. You speak for the few idiots, and the rest of us are laughing at your dumb ass. Suggesting that Joe, the RACIST FASCIST ALZHEIMER RIDDEN IDIOT who campaigned from a basement, who couldn't draw even flies at his rallies, somehow got more votes in the election than Obama?
That's just stupid beyond the pale.

Trump won. And he's going to win in 2024. And he will be working with a Republican House and Senate, and they will fix what that old fart has broken.
34% of Americans consider themselves conservatives.

Joe Biden is not in fact a fascist. He didn’t hold rallies because holding rallies in 2020 meant gambling with tens of thousands of lives. Trump putting holding rallies ahead of protecting the public health is one reason people were motivated to vote against him.
 

God of War

Lets go Brandon!
This makes it obvious that you don’t mind cheating if it means the popular opposition to your goals is silenced.
Securing the vote against fraud is not cheating. The last election was fraudulently stolen via egregious non-legistlative acts of subversion.
 

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President
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The system is rife with corruption. We saw it and it needs fixing.
Rife? So why can't you prove it?

Wisconsin just finished a partisan audit...and found nothing. That means both WIS and AZ have had those attempts to have people who favored Trump try to toss their elections and failed.
 

God of War

Lets go Brandon!
Rife? So why can't you prove it?

Wisconsin just finished a partisan audit...and found nothing. That means both WIS and AZ have had those attempts to have people who favored Trump try to toss their elections and failed.
It's proven time and again when courts refuse to let the people see the ballots.
 

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President
Supporting Member
Securing the vote against fraud is not cheating. The last election was fraudulently stolen via egregious non-legistlative acts of subversion.
"non-legislative"? Like extending dates to accommodate a post office that can't seem to move the mail in less than a week? Shame on them. So now could you show us evidence of subversion?

At least you've given up on the fraud bullshit...now you're just whining that too many people were allowed to vote because of extended early voting, expanded absentee balloting and allowing ballots postmarked by election day to be counted even if they arrive three days later.
 
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