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middleview

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It came from Biden reducing oil production. That increased the price of diesel and gasoline at the pump, thereby increasing costs for manufacturers to transport their goods to stores. Guess who got those increased costs passed on to them.

The inflation in housing came from Biden increasing the population in cites, where he transported migrants to. They saturated the housing market, making vacancies scarce.

The dude ruins everything he touches. Would have been better if he just did nothing at all.
This is not data. It is opinion.
Biden did not reduce oil production.

Inflation in rents and home prices are certainly not the result of illegal (and unemployed) immigrants. Speculation and low interest rates drove home prices up.
Now the mortgage rates are driving home prices down.
 
and I posted the facts that oil production has increased from January 2021 to now. There goes the bullshit that Biden cut production.
It ABSOLUTELY is NOT bullshit that Biden cut production. He absolutely did do that, and I have posted the data proving it. Do I have to post it all again ?
 
This is not data. It is opinion.
Biden did not reduce oil production.

Inflation in rents and home prices are certainly not the result of illegal (and unemployed) immigrants. Speculation and low interest rates drove home prices up.
Now the mortgage rates are driving home prices down.
IT is NOT opinion. It is cold hard data which i have already posted. Biden reduced oil production, and the oil production of his months is small, compared to Trump's 4 years (even with the 2 months of shutdowns), and it is TINY compared with Trump's numbers if we extrapolate his oil production to December 2022.

You don't know what you're talking about. All across Florida, and in other cities where Biden has airlifted illegal aliens to, we have LIVED this situation, been forced to move twice in 3 years, and watched as foreign language speaking migrants move in to the apartments we moved out of. We have first hand, eyeball information. You have nothing.
 

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IT is NOT opinion. It is cold hard data which i have already posted. Biden reduced oil production, and the oil production of his months is small, compared to Trump's 4 years (even with the 2 months of shutdowns), and it is TINY compared with Trump's numbers if we extrapolate his oil production to December 2022.

You don't know what you're talking about. All across Florida, and in other cities where Biden has airlifted illegal aliens to, we have LIVED this situation, been forced to move twice in 3 years, and watched as foreign language speaking migrants move in to the apartments we moved out of. We have first hand, eyeball information. You have nothing.
Here you go. Oil production in January 2021 was 11,124. In September 2022 it was 12,268.

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"Forced to move"? So illegal immigrants knocked on your door and told you to vamoose? Biden was president in 2021 and 2022. So why were you forced to move while Trump was in charge?
 

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Here you go. Oil production in January 2021 was 11,124. In September 2022 it was 12,268.

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"Forced to move"? So illegal immigrants knocked on your door and told you to vamoose? Biden was president in 2021 and 2022. So why were you forced to move while Trump was in charge?
So you really want to square off on this huh ? OK. You got it.

Trump's last month in office was January 2021 - production was 344 MB/mo. Bidens first month was 277.
A DROP of a whopping 67 MB/mo. Yeah, I 'd call that NOSEDIVE.

Trump' oil production months by far exceeding any of those of Joe Biden.
Trump production
December 2019 - 402.3 Million Barrels/month
January 2020 - 398.4
And Trump exceeded Biden's top month of 371.2 Million Barrels/month NINE TIMES, despite the Obama low production influences and later, the pandemic months reductions. And note also that Biden's top production month of 371.2, was recently in August of 2022, when he started increasing production, to try to lower gas prices, as we started getting closer to the 2022 ELECTION.

U.S. Field Production of Crude Oil (Thousand Barrels)

And no matter what you say, when Biden took over, he intentionally had oil production nose dive, and that's just what it did. Not rocket science. Just compare Biden's average monthly oil production for 2021,compared to Trump's average monthly oil production for 2019.

Biden's 2021 average is 341 Million Barrels/month compared to Trump's 374.
Biden's 2022 average (when he ramped up production as the 2022 election drew closer) wasn't much better > 354.

And that "most" of 13 million Barrels /day (Trump's total for Dec. 2019) was a lot more than Biden's "most" of 10 Million B/d

U.S. Field Production of Crude Oil (Thousand Barrels)

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2017275,117255,081284,146273,041284,727273,321286,657286,759285,499299,726302,564309,486
2018310,032287,870324,467314,996323,491319,216337,814353,154343,298356,767356,583370,284
2019367,924326,845369,292364,458376,763366,546368,965387,073377,710397,094390,010402,314
2020398,420372,419396,693357,412301,105313,275341,184327,875327,623324,180335,867346,223
2021344,846277,891351,102339,142352,036340,693351,757349,600327,526358,626353,702360,666
2022352,449316,851362,725350,052360,503353,918367,164371,339368,040



Here's part of how Biden reduced oil production and his production was so relatively low. (in addition to stopping the Keystone Pipeline, changing oil company forecasting scenarios, thereby reducing production in accordance)

Biden Cancels Offshore Drilling in Alaska and Gulf of Mexico (msn.com)

And it hardly matters if Biden's numbers increased or decreased. The LEVELS of them are what points to his reductions of production.

Biden's 19 production months have ranged from 277 Million Barrels/mo to his high of 371 Million Barrels/mo. In the same span of 19 months before the pandemic shutdowns really hit in April of 2020, Trump's production months went from 343 to 402.

The median of these for Biden is 324. For Trump - 372

Twisting it and spinning it any way anyone wants to, the bottom line is Biden intentionally cut oil production, and the numbers bear that out.

let both of you slide on the oil production numbers.

The real Trump #s would be immensely higher, if we extended the graph line of Trump's rising numbers as they were going before the pandemic drop.

Look at the graph line where it peaked at 402 Million Barrels/mo in December of 2019. Because of the climb up to that point, there is every reason to believe, that had the pandemic shutdowns not occured, that rising line would have continued rising exactly as it was already doing. And if Trump had remained president, and we thereby extend-extrapolate the line to as far as December 2022, we can easily see that it would be at about 580 Million Barrels/mo

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(209 million Barrels/mo more than Biden's measly 371 Million).

Go ahead - put a ruler on the line that starts at 2017 when Trump took over, and look at where it goes to for December 2022 > 580 Million


All you're doing is cherry picking numbers where you find they might be able to make Biden look good (and Trump less).. No cigar, dude. But what you can't escape from, is the only important point that OVERALL, Trump's numbers (580 Million Barrels/mo) tower over Biden's puny numbers.

They tower over Biden's puny numbers even without looking at Trump's numbers continuing his rising graph line to December 2022, if he were still president.
Just his numbers from when he was president, are far above Biden.

Here's something else that should make for some good informative reading, to explain how Biden cut oil production, to fulfill his promises to do just that, in the 2020 debate with Trump. And he wasted no time in doing it - just a few days after taking office >>>

www.khou.com

President Biden: 'We can't wait any longer' to address climate crisis
New executive orders will target federal subsidies for those industries and halt new oil and gas leases on federal lands and waters.
www.khou.com
www.khou.com

LBNL, >>>

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Today, national average - 3.53/gallon (110% inflation of gas price)
 

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"Forced to move"? So illegal immigrants knocked on your door and told you to vamoose? Biden was president in 2021 and 2022. So why were you forced to move while Trump was in charge?
They came around with lots of money. They knocked on the managers' doors to rent apartments. New owners saw the opportunity to make big bucks quick - they bought 2 complexes I lived in. and raised rents over 100%. This happened all over Tampa et al cities.

Yeah, forced to move, that's right. What do YOU do, when your rent jumps from $600/mo to $1300 ? Sit still, and say thank you ?
 
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middleview

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They came around with lots of money. They knocked on the managers' doors to rent apartments. New owners saw the opportunity to make big bucks quick - they bought 2 complexes I lived in. and raised rents over 100%. This happened all over Tampa et al cities.

Yeah, forced to move, that's right. What do YOU do, when your rent jumps from $600/mo to $1300 ? Sit still, and say thank you ?
I lived in an apartment in the SF bay area. It was sold twice and each time my rent doubled. They wouldn't give me a lease...it was month to month. Had nothing to do with illegal immigrants. It was because of a huge tax cut on real estate taxes that caused property values to zoom.

If so many illegals are coming to Fla, why did DeSantis have to pay to ship them from Texas thru Fla to Mass.?
 

middleview

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Supporting Member
So you really want to square off on this huh ? OK. You got it.

Trump's last month in office was January 2021 - production was 344 MB/mo. Bidens first month was 277.
A DROP of a whopping 67 MB/mo. Yeah, I 'd call that NOSEDIVE.

Trump' oil production months by far exceeding any of those of Joe Biden.
Trump production
December 2019 - 402.3 Million Barrels/month
January 2020 - 398.4
And Trump exceeded Biden's top month of 371.2 Million Barrels/month NINE TIMES, despite the Obama low production influences and later, the pandemic months reductions. And note also that Biden's top production month of 371.2, was recently in August of 2022, when he started increasing production, to try to lower gas prices, as we started getting closer to the 2022 ELECTION.

U.S. Field Production of Crude Oil (Thousand Barrels)

And no matter what you say, when Biden took over, he intentionally had oil production nose dive, and that's just what it did. Not rocket science. Just compare Biden's average monthly oil production for 2021,compared to Trump's average monthly oil production for 2019.

Biden's 2021 average is 341 Million Barrels/month compared to Trump's 374.
Biden's 2022 average (when he ramped up production as the 2022 election drew closer) wasn't much better > 354.

And that "most" of 13 million Barrels /day (Trump's total for Dec. 2019) was a lot more than Biden's "most" of 10 Million B/d

U.S. Field Production of Crude Oil (Thousand Barrels)

8
2017275,117255,081284,146273,041284,727273,321286,657286,759285,499299,726302,564309,486
2018310,032287,870324,467314,996323,491319,216337,814353,154343,298356,767356,583370,284
2019367,924326,845369,292364,458376,763366,546368,965387,073377,710397,094390,010402,314
2020398,420372,419396,693357,412301,105313,275341,184327,875327,623324,180335,867346,223
2021344,846277,891351,102339,142352,036340,693351,757349,600327,526358,626353,702360,666
2022352,449316,851362,725350,052360,503353,918367,164371,339368,040



Here's part of how Biden reduced oil production and his production was so relatively low. (in addition to stopping the Keystone Pipeline, changing oil company forecasting scenarios, thereby reducing production in accordance)

Biden Cancels Offshore Drilling in Alaska and Gulf of Mexico (msn.com)

And it hardly matters if Biden's numbers increased or decreased. The LEVELS of them are what points to his reductions of production.

Biden's 19 production months have ranged from 277 Million Barrels/mo to his high of 371 Million Barrels/mo. In the same span of 19 months before the pandemic shutdowns really hit in April of 2020, Trump's production months went from 343 to 402.

The median of these for Biden is 324. For Trump - 372

Twisting it and spinning it any way anyone wants to, the bottom line is Biden intentionally cut oil production, and the numbers bear that out.

let both of you slide on the oil production numbers.

The real Trump #s would be immensely higher, if we extended the graph line of Trump's rising numbers as they were going before the pandemic drop.

Look at the graph line where it peaked at 402 Million Barrels/mo in December of 2019. Because of the climb up to that point, there is every reason to believe, that had the pandemic shutdowns not occured, that rising line would have continued rising exactly as it was already doing. And if Trump had remained president, and we thereby extend-extrapolate the line to as far as December 2022, we can easily see that it would be at about 580 Million Barrels/mo

View attachment 73290
(209 million Barrels/mo more than Biden's measly 371 Million).

Go ahead - put a ruler on the line that starts at 2017 when Trump took over, and look at where it goes to for December 2022 > 580 Million


All you're doing is cherry picking numbers where you find they might be able to make Biden look good (and Trump less).. No cigar, dude. But what you can't escape from, is the only important point that OVERALL, Trump's numbers (580 Million Barrels/mo) tower over Biden's puny numbers.

They tower over Biden's puny numbers even without looking at Trump's numbers continuing his rising graph line to December 2022, if he were still president.
Just his numbers from when he was president, are far above Biden.

Here's something else that should make for some good informative reading, to explain how Biden cut oil production, to fulfill his promises to do just that, in the 2020 debate with Trump. And he wasted no time in doing it - just a few days after taking office >>>

www.khou.com

President Biden: 'We can't wait any longer' to address climate crisis
New executive orders will target federal subsidies for those industries and halt new oil and gas leases on federal lands and waters.
www.khou.com
www.khou.com

LBNL, >>>

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Today, national average - 3.53/gallon (110% inflation of gas price)
Yes, the price of gas was less when nobody was buying gas. The pandemic had that effect. Unless you are blaming Trump for Covid, he did nothing to bring the price of gas down. I just paid $2,60 per gallon to fill up.

1. The oil production in February 2021 was 316,851.
2. Oil production as of September 2022 is 368,040.
U.S. Field Production of Crude Oil (Thousand Barrels) (eia.gov)

Even you can see that the September 2022 number is higher than February 2021.
The rest of your rant about how good it was in 2019 is irrelevant. Oil companies didn't suddenly cut production in February because the Keystone Pipeline construction stopped. It takes time to shut down wells and the oil companies were projecting demand.

By the way, the Keystone pipeline had nothing at all to do with US oil production. It would have transported Canadian oil.

While you want to whine about oil production, you ignore the price of oil and it's impact on supply.

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So oil companies cut production when the price of oil dropped to $15. Did Trump have something to do with that? Nah. It has now dropped from $113 to $84.

U.S. Crude Oil First Purchase Price (Dollars per Barrel) (eia.gov)
 
I lived in an apartment in the SF bay area. It was sold twice and each time my rent doubled. They wouldn't give me a lease...it was month to month. Had nothing to do with illegal immigrants. It was because of a huge tax cut on real estate taxes that caused property values to zoom.

If so many illegals are coming to Fla, why did DeSantis have to pay to ship them from Texas thru Fla to Mass.?
OK so your rent increases had nothing to do with illegal aliens (you think), but that doesn't mean that for thousands of other people, Biden and the aliens weren't a factor.
The illegals coming to Florida and wrecking the housing, is the reason WHY DeSantis kept them out and got them to go elsewhere. Who cares where as long as they don't come here.

Second reason DeSantis blocked them from coming here, is because Biden sent them here to try to increase Democrat VOTES here. Everything Biden does is about VOTES and money for himself and other Democrats.
 

middleview

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OK so your rent increases had nothing to do with illegal aliens (you think), but that doesn't mean that for thousands of other people, Biden and the aliens weren't a factor.
The illegals coming to Florida and wrecking the housing, is the reason WHY DeSantis kept them out and got them to go elsewhere. Who cares where as long as they don't come here.

Second reason DeSantis blocked them from coming here, is because Biden sent them here to try to increase Democrat VOTES here. Everything Biden does is about VOTES and money for himself and other Democrats.
So illegal immigrants came to your apartment buildings and had a ton of cash, got the owners to jack up your rent and moved in when you moved out. Sounds very credible.

Let me get this straight. DeSantis both kept them out and let them in? If he kept them out then how in hell did they impact your rent?

If you have evidence of illegal immigrants voting where is it?
 

middleview

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OK so your rent increases had nothing to do with illegal aliens (you think), but that doesn't mean that for thousands of other people, Biden and the aliens weren't a factor.
The illegals coming to Florida and wrecking the housing, is the reason WHY DeSantis kept them out and got them to go elsewhere. Who cares where as long as they don't come here.

Second reason DeSantis blocked them from coming here, is because Biden sent them here to try to increase Democrat VOTES here. Everything Biden does is about VOTES and money for himself and other Democrats.
By the way....my rent went up because of Prop 13 in 1978. Look it up. We were promised it would not impact rents, but it did because investors saw a huge advantage in buying up California rentals properties.
 
So illegal immigrants came to your apartment buildings and had a ton of cash, got the owners to jack up your rent and moved in when you moved out. Sounds very credible.

Let me get this straight. DeSantis both kept them out and let them in? If he kept them out then how in hell did they impact your rent?

If you have evidence of illegal immigrants voting where is it?
All 3 of these are about as disingenuous as it gets, But from you leftistview, what else is new ?

1. Nice try at condensing a nationwide issue into something pertaining to just one person, so as to distort it. Strike 1.

2. Yeah get it straight, First, nobody had any advance warning that Biden was going to airlift thousands of illegal aliens into Florida, and he kept it quiet to keep us from knowing. Worse yet, the airlifts all occured with arrivals in the middle of the night, to avoid anybody noticing (but we did). So no, DeSantis didn't "let them in" they just poured in by the thousands in 2021, the minute Biden had the chance to do it.
By the time when DeSantis kept them out (in 2022), the aliens were already here, having arrived the previous year.
Hey, leftistview. You're not to good at perceiving things, are you ? Strike 2.

3. You've been given plenty evidence of illegal aliens voting, and there's no need for any evidence to be shown. The mere fact that in the abscence of a proof of citizenship requirement all over the country, (a normal thing - as shown by its unanimous presence all over Europe), illegal aliens CAN vote illegally, that is all he reason there need be, to enact a proof of citizenship requirement. And the fact that this is opposed by Democrats, is more evidence of their reliance on illegal voting.
Strike 3.

HO HUM.
 
By the way....my rent went up because of Prop 13 in 1978. Look it up. We were promised it would not impact rents, but it did because investors saw a huge advantage in buying up California rentals properties.
I lived in California in 1978. I don't have to look it up. I remember Howard Jarvis quite well. Has nothing to do with Biden's airlifts of 2022, and rent increases of 100-200%.
 

middleview

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All 3 of these are about as disingenuous as it gets, But from you leftistview, what else is new ?

1. Nice try at condensing a nationwide issue into something pertaining to just one person, so as to distort it. Strike 1.

2. Yeah get it straight, First, nobody had any advance warning that Biden was going to airlift thousands of illegal aliens into Florida, and he kept it quiet to keep us from knowing. Worse yet, the airlifts all occured with arrivals in the middle of the night, to avoid anybody noticing (but we did). So no, DeSantis didn't "let them in" they just poured in by the thousands in 2021, the minute Biden had the chance to do it.
By the time when DeSantis kept them out (in 2022), the aliens were already here, having arrived the previous year.
Hey, leftistview. You're not to good at perceiving things, are you ? Strike 2.

3. You've been given plenty evidence of illegal aliens voting, and there's no need for any evidence to be shown. The mere fact that in the abscence of a proof of citizenship requirement all over the country, (a normal thing - as shown by its unanimous presence all over Europe), illegal aliens CAN vote illegally, that is all he reason there need be, to enact a proof of citizenship requirement. And the fact that this is opposed by Democrats, is more evidence of their reliance on illegal voting.
Strike 3.

HO HUM.
No, you failed to show any evidence that illegals voted in any significant numbers in any national election. No, you have failed to pass the smell test on your argument that landlords jacked up rents due to illegal immigrants arriving in Tampa.
 
No, you failed to show any evidence that illegals voted in any significant numbers in any national election. No, you have failed to pass the smell test on your argument that landlords jacked up rents due to illegal immigrants arriving in Tampa.
Sez You. I say everything I said in Post # 54 was sufficient to prove my points. And once again, there's no need for any evidence to be shown. The mere fact that in the abscence of a proof of citizenship requirement all over the country, (a normal thing - as shown by its unanimous presence all over Europe), illegal aliens CAN vote illegally, that is all he reason there need be, to enact a proof of citizenship requirement.

Some people have to be told twice. And look at the resistance here. Yeah, you guys sure do RELY on those illegal alien votes. No reason to be aginst the citizenship proof requirement, other than needing the votes of NON-citizens. Strikes a raw nerve whenever the subject is brought up.
 

middleview

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Sez You. I say everything I said in Post # 54 was sufficient to prove my points. And once again, there's no need for any evidence to be shown. The mere fact that in the abscence of a proof of citizenship requirement all over the country, (a normal thing - as shown by its unanimous presence all over Europe), illegal aliens CAN vote illegally, that is all he reason there need be, to enact a proof of citizenship requirement.

Some people have to be told twice. And look at the resistance here. Yeah, you guys sure do RELY on those illegal alien votes. No reason to be aginst the citizenship proof requirement, other than needing the votes of NON-citizens. Strikes a raw nerve whenever the subject is brought up.
You seem to pretend that elections are under the control of democrats in all 50 states. That is a lie. Does Florida require proof of citizenship to vote? No. Do states require ID to register? Yes.


Have people been prosecuted for illegally voting? Yes. Is it numbers sufficient to change the election? No.

19 aliens charged with voter fraud in North Carolina following ICE investigation

 
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But that not what happened when Trump was president. He improved the economy and made poor people more rich.

4 million Americans off food stamps,
  • lowest unemployment rate ever recorded for Americans without a high school diploma,
    lowest unemployment for women in over 70 years,
    vocational training topped 4 million - highest ever,
  • lowest unemployment for blacks, Hispanics, Asians, and disabled in US history.
  • created 10 million jobs in 4 months,
  • created over 400,000 manufacturing jobs,
  • highest median wage in US history .
  • unemployment claims hit 50 year low,
  • highest GDP growth in US history (3rd quarter of 2020 - 35.2%)
I call bullshit on it all. What's next. You going to tell me that he had the election stolen from him? Or that during the Clinton administration, they balanced the budget?
 
I call bullshit on it all. What's next. You going to tell me that he had the election stolen from him? Or that during the Clinton administration, they balanced the budget?
Well the BEA says Trump had the highest GDP growth in US history (3rd quarter of 2020 - 35.2%) You call it bullshit. The BEA also says that after a 6 month recession, Biden climbed out of it with a 2.6% GDP growth. Same BEA. You call the 2.6% bullshit too ?

And these people didn't call it "bullshit" when Trump signed the $250 Million/year for black colleges into law. You call that bullshit ?

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Yeah, I tell you that he had the 2020 election stolen from him. And I posted PAGES of evidence of it.

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