I, too, am in favor of reparations.

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I know when the civil rights act was, stupid, and when AA started, as I already told you, it's been around for 58 years.

As for Erlichman., who gived a rats ass what he said ? I didn't see any of them calling for an end to AA. That makes them complicit.

Then let us stop posting about it and get back to the original topic, as you have been asked dozens of times in this thread. Prove you can stay on topic.
If you can't do that then I see why companies would pass on you.

 

[protectionist]

And ?
It clearly says they do not discriminate on the basis of race.
My post showed that blacks still face discrimination based upon race.

Now that you have lost this one too.
How about we try to keep the discussion on topic.

That is CLEARLY - EXACTLY what they do. and have BEEN DOING for 58 years. Are you actually going to try to claim AA is not racial discrimiantion ?Are you mad ?

This is what has wrecked my whole life for 50 years, and continues to, even in retirement, from the severely reduced Social Security benefits.'' '

You F'n liberals are infuriating.

You have lost this, AND YOU KNOW IT.

As for the topic, it is your PANDERING to blacks for votes, while trying to pass it off as a reaction to slavery. I dont think you could get by with this horseshit with a bunch of kids in the 3rd grade.

 

[protectionist]

Then let us stop posting about it and get back to the original topic, as you have been asked dozens of times in this thread. Prove you can stay on topic.
If you can't do that then I see why companies would pass on you.

You don't "see" anything - because you are blinded by the quest for POWER for Democrats BAMN, including making a fool out of yourself + you show no aversion for racism, in your support for Affirmative Action race discrimination.

 

[Spamature]

That is CLEARLY - EXACTLY what they do. and have BEEN DOING for 58 years. Are you actually going to try to claim AA is not racial discrimiantion ?Are you mad ?

This is what has wrecked my whole life for 50 years, and continues to, even in retirement, from the severely reduced Social Security benefits.'' '

You F'n liberals are infuriating.

You have lost this, AND YOU KNOW IT.

As for the topic, it is your PANDERING to blacks for votes, while trying to pass it off as a reaction to slavery. I dont think you could get by with this horseshit with a bunch of kids in the 3rd grade.

I told you this is about slavery.
It is not about discrimination.
If you want to make a thread like that I will destroy you in it.
But how about you stop trying to destroy this thread with your personal issues.

Reparation for chattel slavery is the topic.

 

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You don't "see" anything - because you are blinded by the quest for POWER for Democrats BAMN, including making a fool out of yourself + you show no aversion for racism, in your support for Affirmative Action race discrimination.

Reread the top post.
It is completely non partisan
Black, white, liberal or conservative the plan has something for everyone.
Get away from the hate and be American for a change.

 

[protectionist]

I told you this is about slavery.
It is not about discrimination.
If you want to make a thread like that I will destroy you in it.
But how about you stop trying to destroy this thread with your personal issues.

Reparation for chattel slavery is the topic.

Every time I have debated you (including just now) on the subject of racial reparations, or discrimination, I have DESTROYED YOU. Ho hum. What else is new ?

Yeah, you told me this is about slavery. Well, that's just another one of your many LIES. It's about the word in the title of the thread > "reparations" (connected with race)

My personal issues are just one example of racial discrimination. There are MILLIONS more, and have been for 58 years. So do you think I'm going to let you get away with distorting the subject, by claiming that people who never were a slave, should be paid millions of tax $$ because of a slavery that has nothing to do with them ? No, I'm not letting you get away with that.

The TOPIC of this thread is racial reparations$$, and if we're going to talk about that, then OK, then we must talk about who DESERVES to get reparations, based on racial injustice, and that is not blacks in 2023, it is whites, and other non-black races in 2023. PERIOD!

 

[protectionist]

Reread the top post.
It is completely non partisan
Black, white, liberal or conservative the plan has something for everyone.
Get away from the hate and be American for a change.

How about if YOU "Get away from the hate" (against whites), and be American for a change ?

 

[Spamature]

Every time I have debated you (including just now) on the subject of racial reparations, or discrimination, I have DESTROYED YOU. Ho hum. What else is new ?

Yeah, you told me this is about slavery. Well, that's just another one of your many LIES. It's about the word in the title of the thread > "reparations" (connected with race)

My personal issues are just one example of racial discrimination. There are MILLIONS more, and have been for 58 years. So do you think I'm going to let you get away with distorting the subject, by claiming that people who never were a slave, should be paid millions of tax $$ because of a slavery that has nothing to do with them ? No, I'm not letting you get away with that.

The TOPIC of this thread is racial reparations$$, and if we're going to talk about that, then OK, then we must talk about who DESERVES to get reparations, based on racial injustice, and that is not blacks in 2023, it is whites, and other non-black races in 2023. PERIOD!

If so you would not try to change the subject to your personal issue with AA.
Like I said make your thread and I will bury you in it, just stop threadjacking this one.

 

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How about if YOU "Get away from the hate" (against whites), and be American for a change ?

You're the on hating on whites.
AA was created by whites and enacted by whites, not blacks.
Again, the top post is beneficial to whites and blacks.
Your posts are just bitterness towards both.

 

[protectionist]

Reread the top post.
It is completely non partisan
Black, white, liberal or conservative the plan has something for everyone.
Get away from the hate and be American for a change.

Here's a quote from your OP. >> "America's greatest injustice"

OK. We can debate that. "America's greatest injustice" is it's #1 largest and most grevious racial discrimination, against (by far) the largest number of victims, (whites).

So if you want to talk about "America's greatest injustice", we can do that.

 

[protectionist]

If so you would not try to change the subject to your personal issue with AA.
Like I said make your thread and I will bury you in it, just stop threadjacking this one.

You are buried right here now.

Again the "subject" is the word in the title of the thread > "reparations" (connected with race)

 

[protectionist]

You're the on hating on whites.
AA was created by whites and enacted by whites, not blacks.
Again, the top post is beneficial to whites and blacks.
Your posts are just bitterness towards both.

Typical leftist jibberish, with no foundation, but just spurting out in all directions, mindlessly. Ho hum. yawn****

 

[Dawg]

Blacks have been cheated out of TRILLION$$$ through slavery.
You better add 125 to that 58 yrs of UNPAID DEBT before you have room to complain.
Remember AA was a response to the 100 yrs of Jim Crow laws.

Anyway back to the original topic you are running from because you know it is the greatest evil and injustice ever forced upon any group of Americans in our history.

Well, TRILLION$$$ of Hud Projects have been built for Blacks
Over and Over and Over after they destroy them

 

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Well, TRILLION$$$ of Hud Projects have been built for Blacks
Over and Over and Over after they destroy them

A. Govt projects are not built for a particular race.
B. I suppose what ever project you're talking about were built by incompetents and they fell apart.

 

[Dawg]

A. Govt projects are not built for a particular race.
B. I suppose what ever project you're talking about were built by incompetents and they fell apart.

Bullshit
A. built for Blacks until lately
B. well built projects , do you have central vac in your tent?

 

[Zam-Zam]

The real question has always been how to get it done.

The other thread in this forum shows the length and breath of denial and obstruction such a plan would face. Whether it comes from ignorance or malevolence, it is and always has been the unwavering obstacle in the road to the resolution to America's greatest injustice.

How it could be and should be done is based upon a very simple idea.

From 1789 when the US Constitution was enacted until the 13 Amendment was enacted, the established govt of the United States of American allowed for the enslavement of its own people. That amounts to 75 yrs of 100% taxation on enslaved blacks while they went without representation from the US govt.

This is the premise under which reparations should be enacted.

For those 75yrs, black Americans should be allowed to repair the harm that has been done by slavery.
This is not a plan that addresses discrimination. That issue is too complicated and runs through too many intersections of race, class, and American social structure, to include in the addressing the issue of slavery.

The idea is simple. It would cost nothing, and it would be a huge benefit to the nation as a whole.
No taxation with full unadulterated representation for a period of 75yrs.
But this too would have a different structure than you might think.

The truth be told, the main obstacle to reparations is not the money, but who benefits from the reparations process.
And the obvious fact of that is that unless whites can see a benefit for themselves in reparations, the action will forever be opposed by that group.
Funny thing about that, is that whites can not help but benefit from it, nor would they even consider not benefitting from it should it be enacted.
But the easiest course to take is to make that benefit apparent to those who have the most sway, Corporate America.

Here is a flow chart and its breakdown.
You start in the bottom left corner.
It starts with blacks paying for their own reparations with their own tax dollars.
It's a loan on money that is actually owed.
This would allow both sides to be okay with the idea that those who oppose reparations
Those who oppose reparation can still say that they never gave blacks anything.
And blacks can always tell those who opposed it the very same, you never paid a dime of the money anyway.

Not only that, but it's structured to bring about $5 trillion in investment into the US economy in the first round.
Business in America would be overjoyed in participating in such a profit making scheme when they partner with the effort.
Because their partnership would also pay NO TAXES to any kind, and which would lead to most of those taxes returned to them by meeting certain employment and investment goal objectives.




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You can always send me a check if it will ease your white guilt.

 

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You can always send me a check if it will ease your white guilt.

Well, post that is one way to mock the suffering of your ancestors.

It's really no different than believing that crack deserved handcuffs and a jail cell while fentanyl deserves a bed in a treatment facility.

Do you suppose it comes from the viewpoint of looking out of master's window, his slippers in hand, and convincing yourself that your fortune and their fate in the fields is God's intention ?

 

[Zam-Zam]

Well, post that is one way to mock the suffering of your ancestors.

It's really no different than believing that crack deserved handcuffs and a jail cell while fentanyl deserves a bed in a treatment facility.

Do you suppose it comes from the viewpoint of looking out of master's window, his slippers in hand, and convincing yourself that your fortune and their fate in the fields is God's intention ?

I'm not mocking them.

I'm mocking you.

You know a lot less than you think you know - That much is obvious.

 

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I'm not mocking them.

I'm mocking you.

You know a lot less than you think you know - That much is obvious.

Yes you are mocking them.


You aren't mocking me because I was never stated that checks were an answer to the evil that slavery has done to blacks in America. If fact they opposite has been emphatically stated.

I know your type a lot better than you think.
So when you are through trying to show off as the model minority.
Post about what is actually in the top post instead of what you think will get you called one of the "good ones".

 

[Zam-Zam]

Yes you are mocking them.


You aren't mocking me because I was never stated that checks were an answer to the evil that slavery has done to blacks in America. If fact they opposite has been emphatically stated.

I know your type a lot better than you think.
So when you are through trying to show off as the model minority.
Post about what is actually in the top post instead of what you think will get you called one of the "good ones".

No. I'm mocking you, and every other non-black person who believes they have a better grasp of the black experience than someone who has actually lived it.

If you weren't preoccupied with being obtuse at the moment, it would be obvious to you. I doubt you will be able to see it, however.

I promise to never lecture you or anyone on what it's like to be white - I'd have to be an arrogant ass to do that.

(Let me guess - You still don't get it).