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If it was not for threats of violence and one impotent act of violence...

God of War

Governor
... Trump would not have gotten his passports back. They would have perceived that they were free to do as they liked to Trump.

It's really that simple.

And now the DOJ/FBI are trying to regain the high moral ground. It is an attempt to re-balance the scale of righteous justice in the public eye by returning the passports as if it was an innocent error and not the clear death threat it was.

Is it enough?
 

God of War

Governor
No, it's not enough. We need to see the affidavit(s) behind the warrant BEFORE the affidavit(s) are forged.

When it comes to truth time is of the essence. Time delays allows criminals to cover their tracks and supports rational suspicion of those who delay the truth.
 

Jack4freedom

Governor
No, it's not enough. We need to see the affidavit(s) behind the warrant BEFORE the affidavit(s) are forged.

When it comes to truth time is of the essence. Time delays allows criminals to cover their tracks and supports rational suspicion of those who delay the truth.
The affidavit for the warrant was filed at the US District Court court and recorded on the day it was received little buddy. It can not be forged or changed in any way. And no, there is no reason to rush, roll over and turn it over to Trump because he and his cultist lackeys are having a hissy fit and demanding it.

That’s laughable and would be horrible precedence for both the US District court and the DOJ. Then every crook who got served with a search warrant would also demand that all information regarding an ongoing investigation be immediately turned over to them before they have even been charged with a crime. See what I’m sayin’?

What needs to happen here is for the prosecutors at the US Attorneys office to follow the law and rulings and directives handed down by the presiding judge. That’s how we do it here in the good old USA. For example, if the judge rules tomorrow that these documents do not have to be turned over to Trump, his lawyers have the right to appeal that decision to a higher court. Same is true if the judge ruled that the documents do have to be turned over to Trump. In that case the DOJ can either turn them over or appeal that decision to a higher court.

This isn’t just a pissing and moaning contest where the one who cries louder gets their way champ. There are actual rules and procedures involved here. Patience is always a virtue.
 
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God of War

Governor
The affidavit for the warrant was filed at the US District Court court and recorded on the day it was received little buddy. It can not be forged or changed in any way. And no, there is no reason to rush, roll over and turn it over to Trump because he and his cultist lackeys are having a hissy fit and demanding it.
Naive to think that things can't be changed. We've seen the descent into 3rd world hellhole that Democrats have put us into. And of course in a legitimate system what you say is more true than not but we have no reason to trust Democrats. As they are dishonorable and duplicitous creatures of Satan. This is what they have shown themselves to be as of late.

That’s laughable and would be horrible precedence for both the US District court and the DOJ. Then every crook who got served with a search warrant would also demand that all information regarding an ongoing investigation be immediately turned over to them before they have even been charged with a crime. See what I’m sayin’?
Nonsense. This is an extremely political moment with tens of millions of citizens feeling intimately connected to these events. To bullshit me that this would apply to every crook is not just stupid but falls along the charge of duplicity made just above.

What needs to happen here is for the prosecutors at the US Attorneys office to follow the law and rulings and directives handed down by the presiding judge. That’s how we do it here in the good old USA. For example, if the judge rules tomorrow that these documents do not have to be turned over to Trump, his lawyers have the right to appeal that decision to a higher court. Same is true if the judge ruled that the documents do have to be turned over to Trump. In that case the DOJ can either turn them over or appeal that decision to a higher court.
No. What needs to happen is what needs to happen we need the pretextual affidavit released now.

This isn’t just a pissing and moaning contest where the one who cries louder gets their way champ. There are actual rules and procedures involved here. Patience is always a virtue.
No, you're wrong again.
 

EatTheRich

President
Turns out the passports were evidence that the site where the documents marked top secret were found was in fact his personal desk. Any president ... or anyone else ... who did what Trump is accused of doing would have been treated the same way, any time in the last 60 years.
 
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