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I'm glad the CDC finally got millions of dollars to study the epidemic gun violence problem.

You know why?

Because if study after study doesn't come back saying that - AMERICA DOES NOT HAVE A GUN PROBLEM. BLACK AMERICA HAS A GUN PROBLEM. - here after this Wuhan Virus response fiasco, then the CDC is done for. It will be cleared out and re-staffed.
 
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EatTheRich

President
Most gun deaths in the U.S. are by suicide and whites and Asians commit suicide at higher rates, so the politically motivated conclusion you insist be reached can only be reached by ignoring the evidence.
 
Most gun deaths in the U.S. are by suicide and whites and Asians commit suicide at higher rates, so the politically motivated conclusion you insist be reached can only be reached by ignoring the evidence.
At my last check up of the facts.

There are 30,000 deaths by gun.

20,000 of them are by suicide. I'm sure the ratio is relatively constant.

Other countries (Japan, some in Europe) that have higher or equal rates of suicide have strict gun control.

TAKE AWAY!?!? You don't need a gun to commit suicide.

 
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@EatTheRich

You know what would work for the suicides? Voluntary talk therapy like that in Alcoholics Anonymous. After all alcoholism is just another means of suicide.
 

Dawg

President
Supporting Member
Most gun deaths in the U.S. are by suicide and whites and Asians commit suicide at higher rates, so the politically motivated conclusion you insist be reached can only be reached by ignoring the evidence.
check your beloved blue inner cities of blacks killing blacks especially kids
 

trapdoor

Governor
No gun control that allows ownership is going to affect accidents and suicides. This is an attempt to produce numers showing all guns are dangerous, and hence all or some of them should be banned (and CAN be under Heller/McDonald which allow the banning of "dangerous and unusual" firearms). It isn't something the CDC should be studying AT ALL, and it's simply a backdoor effort to get an anti-gun agenda into a "non-partisan study" that is in reality very partisan.
 
No gun control that allows ownership is going to affect accidents and suicides. This is an attempt to produce numers showing all guns are dangerous, and hence all or some of them should be banned (and CAN be under Heller/McDonald which allow the banning of "dangerous and unusual" firearms). It isn't something the CDC should be studying AT ALL, and it's simply a backdoor effort to get an anti-gun agenda into a "non-partisan study" that is in reality very partisan.
If they study it black America will have to come under scrutiny. Take away the black America problem with guns and America has no gun problem. If the CDC claims otherwise and try to take away any part of the 2nd Amendment then it will be on like donkey kong. They've made a huge mistake if you ask me.
 

EatTheRich

President
@EatTheRich

You know what would work for the suicides? Voluntary talk therapy like that in Alcoholics Anonymous. After all alcoholism is just another means of suicide.
I mean, I know AA works for some people but it’s track record is actually pretty abysmal. I think you’re probably on the right track though.
 

EatTheRich

President
@EatTheRich

I' waiting on a response to my post above that a person does not need a gun to commit a suicide. And I want to know what has stopped the CDC from spending millions on just studying suicides?

You’re right. And the CDC has studied suicides, from many different angles. But it would be good to have more data on gun violence. For example, perhaps it would bring to light strong correlation of gun murders with the styles of policing that drive drugs and prostitution to inner cities where they are semi-tolerated and demonstrate how housing segregation and employment discrimination create a situation with proportionally more Black-on-Black killings (although these are still outnumbered in raw terms by white-on-white killings which account for 44% of homicides).
 
You’re right. And the CDC has studied suicides, from many different angles. But it would be good to have more data on gun violence. For example, perhaps it would bring to light strong correlation of gun murders with the styles of policing that drive drugs and prostitution to inner cities where they are semi-tolerated and demonstrate how housing segregation and employment discrimination create a situation with proportionally more Black-on-Black killings (although these are still outnumbered in raw terms by white-on-white killings which account for 44% of homicides).
Nonsense. Blacks are responsible for 50% of all homicides while being 13% of the population. And the cry of poverty is a crock. For every poor black person there are 2 poor white people.

So the American gun problem isn't poverty if there are 2 poor whites for every poor black and the extremely unbalanced homicide rates are what they are. The CDC has its worked cut out for itself. Good news is that the truth will be public news published by the CDC or the CDC will be revamped from top to bottom.
 
I mean, I know AA works for some people but it’s track record is actually pretty abysmal. I think you’re probably on the right track though.
AA has a large membership which attests to the perceived capacity of the program by addicts.

Also,

  • After three years, half of the AA members were still sober and 0.25 percent of those who enrolled in formal treatment were still sober.
  • After 8 years, 49 percent of AA members were still sober and 46 percent of people who enrolled in formal treatment were still sober.6

This study clearly shows AA can be very effective for some people who are seeking long-term recovery from addiction.
 

write on

Governor
You know why?

Because if study after study doesn't come back saying that - AMERICA DOES NOT HAVE A GUN PROBLEM. BLACK AMERICA HAS A GUN PROBLEM. - here after this Wuhan Virus response fiasco, then the CDC is done for. It will be cleared out and re-staffed.
So obvioius, eh
AA has a large membership which attests to the perceived capacity of the program by addicts.

Also,
Gaslighting at its core.

He spouts right wing talking points- in CAPS.

Look out! :rolleyes:
 
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