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Immigration laws are just the government's attempt to control or freedoms.

EatTheRich

President
Another of your arguments that refutes itself:

The Epsilon strain is likely to be more resistant to the existing coronavirus vaccines, and it has been cited as a potential threat for a “breakthrough” infection among vaccinated people.

A New Coronavirus Threat? The Epsilon Variant Has Arrived | The National Interest

It doesn't learn to be "resistant" to the interventions by infecting those who aren't complying with them.
How many variant vaccine-resistant strains of smallpox are going around?
 

EatTheRich

President
I'll take that as a "of course they won't all be instantly productive (especially the millions of children) and many will never be."
No, it means I don’t know what that particular man’s profession is. But obviously he has some way of supporting himself in mind … and it isn’t welfare because virtually no welfare programs are available for aliens.
 

Raoul_Luke

I feel a bit lightheaded. Maybe you should drive.
No, it means I don’t know what that particular man’s profession is. But obviously he has some way of supporting himself in mind … and it isn’t welfare because virtually no welfare programs are available for aliens.
I thought you guys wanted them all to be granted citizenship? You wouldn't be running a "bait and switch" here, would you? Let all the elderly and infirm "refugees" in because "they don't qualify for welfare" but then once they are here, immediately grant them citizenship so they do. Yes, your agenda really is that transparent.
 

EatTheRich

President
I thought you guys wanted them all to be granted citizenship? You wouldn't be running a "bait and switch" here, would you? Let all the elderly and infirm "refugees" in because "they don't qualify for welfare" but then once they are here, immediately grant them citizenship so they do. Yes, your agenda really is that transparent.
Would I like to have a cradle to grave welfare system and freedom of travel for workers? Are my incremental demands for reform aimed at winning these broader reforms, as part of a more fundamental strategy to destabilize the U.S. while building Communist revolution? Absolutely. But I have no hope of success unless a large majority is on my side, which won’t happen unless it’s apparent that their interests are represented by the communist movement. I’m counting on agitprop and even more on capitalism to make that clear. But in the meantime, welfare has been unavailable for aliens and in many cases for naturalized citizens for decades, the path to citizenship is almost completely closed, immigration has been strictly limited by the jobs market for decades, and, although every immigrant (including, especially, the children who eventually grow up) increases the productivity of the U.S., even this market-driven immigration of jobs seekers has been divided by a regulatory nanny state into arbitrarily labeled “legal” and “illegal” categories.
 

Raoul_Luke

I feel a bit lightheaded. Maybe you should drive.
Would I like to have a cradle to grave welfare system and freedom of travel for workers? Are my incremental demands for reform aimed at winning these broader reforms, as part of a more fundamental strategy to destabilize the U.S. while building Communist revolution? Absolutely. But I have no hope of success unless a large majority is on my side, which won’t happen unless it’s apparent that their interests are represented by the communist movement. I’m counting on agitprop and even more on capitalism to make that clear. But in the meantime, welfare has been unavailable for aliens and in many cases for naturalized citizens for decades, the path to citizenship is almost completely closed, immigration has been strictly limited by the jobs market for decades, and, although every immigrant (including, especially, the children who eventually grow up) increases the productivity of the U.S., even this market-driven immigration of jobs seekers has been divided by a regulatory nanny state into arbitrarily labeled “legal” and “illegal” categories.
So, of course, as usual, I was 100% correct. Get them here, get them the vote, and we get your Marxist vision.
 

EatTheRich

President
So, of course, as usual, I was 100% correct. Get them here, get them the vote, and we get your Marxist vision.
The world is faced with a stark choice … socialism, liberation, peace, and justice, or capitalism, fascism, depression, and war. Pretending that reality is other than it is won’t alter it, and siding with the forces of reaction from the noblest of professed motives won’t prevent the logic of the market from unleashing its nightmare future on us.
 

Raoul_Luke

I feel a bit lightheaded. Maybe you should drive.
The world is faced with a stark choice … socialism, liberation, peace, and justice, or capitalism, fascism, depression, and war. Pretending that reality is other than it is won’t alter it, and siding with the forces of reaction from the noblest of professed motives won’t prevent the logic of the market from unleashing its nightmare future on us.
The only ones pushing fascism, depression and war are the socialists (aka democrats). The right is fighting for liberation, peace and justice.
 

EatTheRich

President
The only ones pushing fascism, depression and war are the socialists (aka democrats). The right is fighting for liberation, peace and justice.
Again, pretending that the reality is other than what it is won’t change it. It was Soviet Russia that pulled out of WWI and legalized abortion, the German revolution that ended WWI, the Soviet Union that posted record growth while the capitalist world was mired in depression, the capitalist powers that put the fascist regimes in place (without a fight on the state’s part in most cases), and the Soviet Union that brought down Nazism.
 

Raoul_Luke

I feel a bit lightheaded. Maybe you should drive.
Again, pretending that the reality is other than what it is won’t change it. It was Soviet Russia that pulled out of WWI and legalized abortion, the German revolution that ended WWI, the Soviet Union that posted record growth while the capitalist world was mired in depression, the capitalist powers that put the fascist regimes in place (without a fight on the state’s part in most cases), and the Soviet Union that brought down Nazism.
LOL! Nice fairy tale.
 
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