Is it easier to beotch like a beotch on a message board than to do something about it?

[RickWA]

Like I said- your solution(s), while admirable, are a pipe dream.

While clever, your analogy about drownings aren't the same a say, mass shootings. I don't read much, or anything I recall on murder by drowning.

That word 'intent' comes to mind again, doesn't it?

Again, mass shootings do not spontaneously occur. Human agency is THE necessary catalyst. Secondly, after acknowledging that our society is saturated in firearms, you posit ending firearms sales as tactic.
1) The guns are ALREADY there. Short of government confiscation, your solution is a non-sequitur.
2) Halting sales is unconstitutional. You would be rendering a guaranteed, enumerated constitutional right a “desert” (hence the analogy). You don’t end the acts of bad guys by removing resources and rights of good guys (again, desertification of a fertile thing).
3) Human devaluation of life is clearly THE problem. We don’t destroy what we value, right? Whether a person is nuts, evil, or both - this is what needs addressing…and what nearly always goes unmentioned.

 

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Again, mass shootings do not spontaneously occur. Human agency is THE necessary catalyst. Secondly, after acknowledging that our society is saturated in firearms, you posit ending firearms sales as tactic.
1) The guns are ALREADY there. Short of government confiscation, your solution is a non-sequitur.
2) Halting sales is unconstitutional. You would be rendering a guaranteed, enumerated constitutional right a “desert” (hence the analogy). You don’t end the acts of bad guys by removing resources and rights of good guys (again, desertification of a fertile thing).
3) Human devaluation of life is clearly THE problem. We don’t destroy what we value, right? Whether a person is nuts, evil, or both - this is what needs addressing…and what nearly always goes unmentioned.

Yes, I agree that the state of family structure is a huge problem but I don't believe halting guns sales is unconstitutional when it comes to the right to bear arms. But confiscation of guns- something that I haven't nor ever will advocate- IS. Big difference, imo.

How can you "remove the resources and rights of good guys" already flush with guns without doing the same to bad guys?

What a conundrum.

 

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Again, mass shootings do not spontaneously occur. Human agency is THE necessary catalyst. Secondly, after acknowledging that our society is saturated in firearms, you posit ending firearms sales as tactic.
1) The guns are ALREADY there. Short of government confiscation, your solution is a non-sequitur.
2) Halting sales is unconstitutional. You would be rendering a guaranteed, enumerated constitutional right a “desert” (hence the analogy). You don’t end the acts of bad guys by removing resources and rights of good guys (again, desertification of a fertile thing).
3) Human devaluation of life is clearly THE problem. We don’t destroy what we value, right? Whether a person is nuts, evil, or both - this is what needs addressing…and what nearly always goes unmentioned.

Here is something that you didn't consider in your essay above;

Fatal police violence by race and state in the USA, 1980–2019: a network meta-regression

We found that more than half of all deaths due to police violence that we estimated in the USA from 1980 to 2018 were unreported in the NVSS. Compounding this, we found substantial differences in the age-standardised mortality rate due to police violence over time and by racial and ethnic groups...

www.thelancet.com

 

[RickWA]

Yes, I agree that the state of family structure is a huge problem but I don't believe halting guns sales is unconstitutional when it comes to the right to bear arms. But confiscation of guns- something that I haven't nor ever will advocate- IS. Big difference, imo.

How can you "remove the resources and rights of good guys" already flush with guns without doing the same to bad guys?

What a conundrum.

Gun saturation is THE PRESENT STATE. Halting additional sales does nothing to impact this. If one seeks to halt gun sales, his agenda is NOT one of “solving” the problem.

 

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Gun saturation is THE PRESENT STATE. Halting additional sales does nothing to impact this. If one seeks to halt gun sales, his agenda is NOT one of “solving” the problem.

Why?

I'm tired of the same old same old. Aren't you? Time to act.

I think the proposal of a temporary hold on gun sale sales will help put a slow down or stop the saturation. You and I know that many people buy guns that they aren't able to handle. Many buy them for peace of mind. How many of those are stolen? What about the elderly that gets robbed?

Or a good old boy that sells one or two of his to whoever and no one knows where they'll end up?

Saturation

 

[Dawg]

Why?

I'm tired of the same old same old. Aren't you? Time to act.

I think the proposal of a temporary hold on gun sale sales will help put a slow down or stop the saturation. You and I know that many people buy guns that they aren't able to handle. Many buy them for peace of mind. How many of those are stolen? What about the elderly that gets robbed?

Or a good old boy that sells one or two of his to whoever and no one knows where they'll end up?

Saturation

There's a reason leftist don't talk of Guns saving lives

Mom fatally shoots home invader to protect her 2 kids: Sheriff (msn.com)

Your solution is for the Mom not to have a Gun

 

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There's a reason leftist don't talk of Guns saving lives

Mom fatally shoots home invader to protect her 2 kids: Sheriff (msn.com)

Your solution is for the Mom not to have a Gun

You're so incorrigible, Dawg.

You go strait for attack mode when we're trying to have a discussion.

Rough childhood?

 

[Dawg]

You're so incorrigible, Dawg.

You go strait for attack mode when we're trying to have a discussion.

Rough childhood?

Guns is topic and you prove exactly what I posted and there was NO attack attached

I had a wonderful childhood (there's an attack mode)

 

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Guns is topic and you prove exactly what I posted and there was NO attack attached

I had a wonderful childhood (there's an attack mode)

I'm nobody

Edit; Are you familiar with Emily Dickinson, Dawg?

 

[Dawg]

I'm nobody

Edit; Are you familiar with Emily Dickinson, Dawg?

Did she write don't try carjacking me

Philadelphia would-be carjacker shot at by licensed gun owner while attempting to steal car: police

www.msn.com