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Israel vs. The Middle East: Chicken and Egg. Unless you remember history.

middleview

President
Supporting Member
Sniffle. Big picture. As long you focus on these not noid details with no context this will forever be chicken and egg for you.

Oh but why AP? Why don’t you dig for a little more context?
I asked you a question...why did the IDF destroy the building that housed two major media organizations?

What are "noid" details?
 

reason10

Governor
Those naughty Israelis are at it again. There the Palestinians were sitting, just minding their own business. . .as usual. . .when Israel, unprovoked, started beating the crap out of them. 'Cuz they're Nyat-zees and shit.

None of this makes sense if you command the historical context of a goldfish. How far do you need to go back to understand it all? Last week? Anwar Sadat? (Wait, who?) 1948? No. Farther back.

In 1914 the Middle East was a caliphate. The Ottoman Empire. Hated by the Arabs who pined for the good ol' days of Arab caliphates. The Ottomans were a fat corrupt empire in steep decline. Turk cronies got top jobs while worthy Arabs had to, wait for it, pound sand. And so when T.E. Lawrence (of Arabia) followed British orders and went to the ME to foment an uprising he was met with a very willing Arab population who loved the idea and promise of an Arab caliphate once the damn Turks were beaten in World War I. And so the Arab Revolt was born. They even had a flag. Wanna see it?



Wow! Looks familiar, right? White, black, and green. Those are the historical colors of the Umayyad, Abbasid, and Fatimid Arab caliphates (the good ol' days). And the red triangle is for the Jordanian Hashamid Dynasty--the leaders of the new Arab Revolt who would bring about the new Arab caliphate. But why does it look so familiar? Let's take a look at some other flags of the region:

United Arab Emirates



Iraq


Syria


Kuwait


Jordan


Yemen


Egypt


You get the idea. So it's almost as if the leaders of the region all remember the Arab Revolt and instilled the cause into their very flags. But what happened after the Arab Revolt?

Fast forward to the end of WWI. The revolt worked. It hastened the end. Now the Arab revolt leaders were ready to accept the promise of a new Arab Caliphate from their British and French conquerers. But hold the phone. Not so fast. Lawrence was recalled back to England and the team of Sykes and Picot were sent to resolve the issue of what to do with the destroyed Ottoman Empire. Gone was the promise of a new caliphate.

What!? But why?

Because the world could not tolerate a caliphate in control of the world's oil and energy supply. No. Think of the time. 1918. Rockefeller was already a billionaire and not because of gasoline but because of kerosene. And now cars were making their way to the street. Henry Ford ensured they would replace horses entirely. And of course they did. Now think of how important oil has been throughout the 20th Century. An absolute myriad of products of which gasoline and diesel are merely two. Plastics. Everything we touch from food and medicine to toys and solar panels requires non-gasoline/diesel by-products of crude oil. Now imagine the 20th Century under the backwards, medieval, Sharia law of a new Arab Caliphate.

At the dawn of the oil age, Sykes-Picot could see the writing on the wall and the Brits and French agreed a caliphate in the new century cannot be tolerated. It would be better if the region could be divided up among several competing states each with a portion of oil beneath their feet, each with an internal set of cultures that would be constantly competing and fighting amongst themselves with weak leaders (instead of a powerful sultan) constantly preoccupied with keeping the internal peace while funding their own regimes with the flow of oil. Yes, the oil must flow. From Saudi Arabia, Iraq, Jordan, and wherever. To grant them a caliphate would be to present a knife wielding Muslim fanatic with your neck. The oil would be held for ransom and the West would pay!

Meanwhile, the richest countries in the world in the 20th century--whoever they would be--would develop nukes.

And so Sykes-Picot redrew the lines this way and that. Jacked up. Weird boundaries. And the Arabs were enraged. Furthermore, along comes WWII and the holocaust. Jews got the homeland in Israel at the expense of the Palesinians (no thanks whatsoever to the Arabs who voted down the Palestinian homeland proposal!) providing yet another inner region distraction from reconstituting some kind of organic Arab caliphate. And ever since then the region has been unable to form a caliphate thanks in large part to the US inheriting the responsibility of the Sykes-Picot agreement. Any attempts at some "Pan-Arab" unification has been utterly and mercilessly crushed by the West (Saddam Hussein anyone?). This is the focus of the Middle East--keep the oil flowing and f@q the caliphate.

And so the promise of an Arab caliphate was a lie. And it needed to be a lie. WWI needed to be won and the Middle East must not be allowed to start a new Arab caliphate subjecting the west to the Neanderthal moronic advancement of Islam by the sword. That may have been the expected way in the late 800s AD but this is 1918. The world will not bend backwards to Islam for the sake of Allah. Update Islam first. Then maybe they can be friends with the West.

This is the way to make sense of the Middle East today and for the past hundred plus years.

"But what about those demon Israelis?"

Israel is interested in survival. They are a different kind of pawn in the region but a pawn nonetheless. They're our pawn. This whining and pining for "historical borders" by Palestinian supporters is ridiculous. Seriously, totally moronic. You want "historical borders?" Fine. Israel "historically" spanned from the Nile to the Euphrates. Now if you are a proponent of "historical borders" consider those historical borders!

This is the lens through which you need to view the current attacks on Israel from Gaza and any regional conflict from 1918 to the present to the future. Any attempts at justifying like:

"Israel is oppressing the Palestinians!"
"Israel has plans to take over the region!"
"Israel needs to leave the West Bank!"
"Israel is engaging in terrorism!"
"Israel bad! Palestinians good!"

ignore the history of the region. It is like addressing the latest sniffle while ignoring the yersinia pestis bacteria--the cause of the bubonic plague.

The long game has two possible outcomes: 1) Islam is actually reformed. It recognizes the evil it has perpetrated in the last millennium and repents permanently. No spreading Islam by the sword. No dhimmitude. No Sharia Law. Fat chance. The way that comes about is by an existential war with the region in which the West is on the verge of eradicating Islam and so in the face of extinction, Islam relents and rethinks this crazy idea of caliphate and Sharia Law. The other outcome. 2) The West and the world suck every last drop of oil out of the region. Then they can have their own caliphate and be rulers of sand and date trees--a threat to nobody. Much more likely but requires a new source of reliable energy (like not solar and not wind. Fracking anybody? It has produced a boon of biblical proportions for energy in the US! Consider what that means for peace in the region through our energy independence.) and prolonged interaction with the region. Unpleasant but necessary.

Not pretty but it is the truth. The faster we align our perceptions to reality the sooner people can think of real solutions.
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middleview

President
Supporting Member
don't forget the $100M+ Joe sent Hamas, eh for COVID

appears they bought bombs rather than vaccine
Seems you don't know how US aid works. They have to spend the money in the US. Are we selling them missiles? We are certainly letting Israel use their billions in aid to buy weapons.
 
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