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RickWA

Snagglesooth
That is unfortunate.

Hamas has put a lot of civilians in harm's way, a point that seems lost on too many people.
It’s the #resistance kooks. They frame EVERYTHING in terms of oppressed and oppressor - slaughtered, beheaded, raped infants be damned. These leftists are very, very mentally ill. And evil.
 

Zam-Zam

Senator
It’s the #resistance kooks. They frame EVERYTHING in terms of oppressed and oppressor - slaughtered, beheaded, raped infants be damned. These leftists are very, very mentally ill. And evil.
They seem very concerned how Israel fights the war...I've never heard and such concerns about other nations defending themselves. Has anyone insisted that Ukraine's response be restrained and "proportional"?

Hamas hides an arsenal and who knows what else inside a hospital...It would be a very easy thing for Israel to simply bomb the hospital and be done with it. Instead, they go room by room, being careful not to inflict any more damage than they have to, not knowing whom they can trust and who is looking for an opportunity to eliminate an infidel. They get zero credit for that from the haters, who can only find fault in everything Israel does to defend itself and never has so much as a harsh word for Hamas.

Something amiss there.
 

Spamature

President
This is what was found there:

View attachment 76716

Medical equipment?
Looks like about what you would take off a few, 8 or 9 patients, as you treated them for injuries from the bombing that has killed 15 thousand and wounded an untold number of people. Or maybe what a single sympathetic supporter would have stashed for them.

This is not what you would expect from a command and control center for a military outfit, the way this claim has been built it up to be.
 

RickWA

Snagglesooth
They seem very concerned how Israel fights the war...I've never heard and such concerns about other nations defending themselves. Has anyone insisted that Ukraine's response be restrained and "proportional"?

Hamas hides an arsenal and who knows what else inside a hospital...It would be a very easy thing for Israel to simply bomb the hospital and be done with it. Instead, they go room by room, being careful not to inflict any more damage than they have to, not knowing whom they can trust and who is looking for an opportunity to eliminate an infidel. They get zero credit for that from the haters, who can only find fault in everything Israel does to defend itself and never has so much as a harsh word for Hamas.

Something amiss there.
Ukraine isn’t “Jewish” enough to elicit lefty-hate. Israel, on the other hand…why it’s “an apartheid state” (with Arabs in its government) and it presides over “an open-air prison” (which it handed over, gratis, after being attacked). Then…the recipients of that land proceeded to use it as base to launch rockets and assorted attacks on civilian Israelis.

Clearly, the original sin of being a Jew cannot be forgiven by the hateful anti-semite folks.
 

Zam-Zam

Senator
Looks like about what you would take off a few, 8 or 9 patients, as you treated them for injuries from the bombing that has killed 15 thousand and wounded an untold number of people. Or maybe what a single sympathetic supporter would have stashed for them.

This is not what you would expect from a command and control center for a military outfit, the way this claim has been built it up to be.

Based on all your military expertise and experience...

Tell us how many command centers you've been in.
 

Spamature

President
Based on all your military expertise and experience...

Tell us how many command centers you've been in.
Based upon my ability to count the objects on display.

I commented on what it had been built up to be in statements by the Israeli govt.




And before that:



One more thing.

More children have been killed in just over three weeks in Gaza than in all of the world's conflicts combined in each of the past three years, according to the global charity Save the Children. For example, it said, 2,985 children were killed across two dozen war zones throughout all of last year.Nov 2, 2023
 
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middleview

President
Supporting Member
Ukraine isn’t “Jewish” enough to elicit lefty-hate. Israel, on the other hand…why it’s “an apartheid state” (with Arabs in its government) and it presides over “an open-air prison” (which it handed over, gratis, after being attacked). Then…the recipients of that land proceeded to use it as base to launch rockets and assorted attacks on civilian Israelis.

Clearly, the original sin of being a Jew cannot be forgiven by the hateful anti-semite folks.
Israel doesn't need to kill thousands of innocent people to be rid of Hamas.
 
That is unfortunate.

Hamas has put a lot of civilians in harm's way, a point that seems lost on too many people.
Israel's ethnic cleansing and illegal occupation of Palestine is putting many more civilians around the world at risk of a widening conflict.

https://www.axios.com/2023/10/23/biden-israel-gaza-middle-east-war-threat

"Top U.S. officials tell us the threats of a war widening from the Gaza Strip are real and rising, forcing the Pentagon to put more U.S. forces on higher alert for quick deployment and rush additional weapons systems to the region."
 

Zam-Zam

Senator
Israel's ethnic cleansing and illegal occupation of Palestine is putting many more civilians around the world at risk of a widening conflict.

https://www.axios.com/2023/10/23/biden-israel-gaza-middle-east-war-threat

"Top U.S. officials tell us the threats of a war widening from the Gaza Strip are real and rising, forcing the Pentagon to put more U.S. forces on higher alert for quick deployment and rush additional weapons systems to the region."

The history of the Jewish people living in what is now Israel dates back at least to the Bronze age...Clearly, they have a historic claim on their homeland, far more so than any Euro-American has on theirs. That is simply a fact.

If they wanted to obliterate the Palestinians living in the region, they likely could have done so...Instead they have tried to live in peace with them, and some Palestinians have been open to that arrangement. Unfortunately, others have not, in particular the adherents to Hamas, whose attitude towards the Jewish people is not different than that of Adolf Hitler. It was evil then; it is evil now.

Israel has a right to exist. Israel has a right to defend itself. And that they will do, much to the chagrin of those who wish to see them wiped off the face of the earth.
 
Looks like about what you would take off a few, 8 or 9 patients, as you treated them for injuries from the bombing that has killed 15 thousand and wounded an untold number of people. Or maybe what a single sympathetic supporter would have stashed for them.

This is not what you would expect from a command and control center for a military outfit, the way this claim has been built it up to be.
Looks more like what was left behind in a hastily packed move, which probably is just pocket change from what was actually HA MAS ! removed .....
 
The history of the Jewish people living in what is now Israel dates back at least to the Bronze age...Clearly, they have a historic claim on their homeland, far more so than any Euro-American has on theirs. That is simply a fact.
How would you respond to the argument Israel has strayed so far from its Bronze Age roots that it's lost any historic claim it may have possessed?

NOVEMBER 20, 2023Were the Biblical Prophets Anti-Semitic?
BY MICHAEL HUDSON

"If the prophets of ancient Israel such as Isaiah, Jeremiah, Ezekiel, Malachi and Amos were alive today, Benjamin Netanyahu would accuse them of anti-Semitism for daring to describe his government as a travesty of what the Mosaic covenant was all about.

"A common thread running throughout the Jewish Bible – Christianity’s Old Testament – was to criticize kings, the wealthy and corrupt courts for violating the Mosaic commandments to create a fair and equitable society protecting the poor from the economic oppression of debt bondage, and loss of their land.

"If the prophets were summoned to give judgment today, it is Netanyahu’s right-wing Likud Party and the steeply unequal economy of Israel that would be condemned as violating the most basic laws of Biblical Judaism."
 

Zam-Zam

Senator
How would you respond to the argument Israel has strayed so far from its Bronze Age roots that it's lost any historic claim it may have possessed?

NOVEMBER 20, 2023Were the Biblical Prophets Anti-Semitic?
BY MICHAEL HUDSON

"If the prophets of ancient Israel such as Isaiah, Jeremiah, Ezekiel, Malachi and Amos were alive today, Benjamin Netanyahu would accuse them of anti-Semitism for daring to describe his government as a travesty of what the Mosaic covenant was all about.

"A common thread running throughout the Jewish Bible – Christianity’s Old Testament – was to criticize kings, the wealthy and corrupt courts for violating the Mosaic commandments to create a fair and equitable society protecting the poor from the economic oppression of debt bondage, and loss of their land.

"If the prophets were summoned to give judgment today, it is Netanyahu’s right-wing Likud Party and the steeply unequal economy of Israel that would be condemned as violating the most basic laws of Biblical Judaism."
People can have their opinions, but it seems that the Jewish people, unlike Euro-Americans, are exactly where they are supposed to be.
 
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