Jan 6 insurrectionist pleas/sentencing watch

[reason10]

Fer Chissakes...a pardon is not the same as bail.

Gee! You musta had to watch a hundred Perry Mason episodes for THAT legal tidbit.

No "legal" protester was arrested. They broke windows and doors. They attacked the police...Why did they do that? The fact is that Trump told them to go a fight like hell to stop the election. That, by definition, was an insurrection.

Trump did NOT tell them to fight like hell to stop the election. The election was stopped on Election Night. All Trump did was hold a LEGAL protest. Goons from YOUR side of the aisle broke into Congress.

Had it been a real insurrection, several Congress members would be dead or in the hospital. There was almost a half a MILLION legal protestors at that LEGAL protest.

Trump supporters were not guilty of ANY crimes.

 

[Spamature]

Only an idiot would believe the story you retell and I'm not sure you don't believe. :0)

Only and idiot would believe Trump, a scam artist who has been caught lying 20 times a day on average. Only and idiot would believe that millions of illegal aliens, none who are ever caught, have been stealing our election for the past 20 years.

BTW
Were you one of the suckers who fell for QAnon garbage you are now repeating ?

 

[God of War]

Only and idiot would believe Trump, a scam artist who has been caught lying 20 times a day on average. Only and idiot would believe that millions of illegal aliens, none who are ever caught, have been stealing our election for the past 20 years.

BTW
Were you one of the suckers who fell for QAnon garbage you are now repeating ?

Is that all you got?

 

[Spamature]

Is that all you got?

That is not an answer.


Did you fall for Q ?

 

[God of War]

That is not an answer.


Did you fall for Q ?

All I know about Q was from an HBO show.

 

[JuliefromOhio]

Scott MacFarlane
@MacFarlaneNews

Sentencing at 10am in Jan 6 case of Robert Reeder This case has had twists & turns, including the 11th hour reveal of new video of Reeder before his initial sentencing date in August, allegedly showing assault on police. But no new charge We'll want to watch this hearing
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Scott MacFarlane
@MacFarlaneNews
· Sep 28
Robert Reeder of Md will NOT face new, higher-level charges in US Capitol case, per new court filing from feds Reeder pleaded guilty to misdemeanor, then during sentencing feds revealed they'd received new video showing possible assault But misdemeanor plea deal will hold ===> twitter.com/MacFarlaneNews…





9:44 AM · Oct 8, 2021·

 

[middleview]

Fer Chissakes...a pardon is not the same as bail.

Gee! You musta had to watch a hundred Perry Mason episodes for THAT legal tidbit.

No "legal" protester was arrested. They broke windows and doors. They attacked the police...Why did they do that? The fact is that Trump told them to go a fight like hell to stop the election. That, by definition, was an insurrection.

Trump did NOT tell them to fight like hell to stop the election. The election was stopped on Election Night. All Trump did was hold a LEGAL protest. Goons from YOUR side of the aisle broke into Congress.

Had it been a real insurrection, several Congress members would be dead or in the hospital. There was almost a half a MILLION legal protestors at that LEGAL protest.

Trump supporters were not guilty of ANY crimes.

Then why compare pardons to bail?

600 or so people have been arrested. All had links to pro-Trump groups...OathKeepers, three percenters...Proud boys....various right wing militias. There were even some former republican candidates for office and people fairly high up in the republican party.

Who do you have that is not a Trumplican? One guy. John Sullivan. He has no known affiliation with BLM or Antifa and even having shown up at one BLM rally was told not to come back.

While there were thousands who did not riot on Jan 6, there were also a couple thousand who did. They had marching orders from Trump and Giuliani. Let's have trial by combat....let's go fight like hell to stop the "steal"....but what that really meant to the rioters was to stop the election. Sydney Powell even admitted the goal was to keep the count of the electoral vote from being certified.

Kind of interesting that when Trump sent out the message that he loved them, but it was time to go home...they went home.

Only an idiot could keep arguing that it wasn't Trump supporters who attacked the cops, broke windows and chanted "hang Mike Pence".

 

[middleview]

Forensic audits where suspicion is cast on the ballots and the voting machines (So if say a mailed in ballot is not creased an explanation and chain of custody is established). No involvement of the Secretary of States and not done by election officials at the local level. These audits to be done by bipartisan commissions organized at the state level. No introduction of biased corporate interests to help with the audit. Forced access to machines and software if need be. A complete and thorough report published to the internet. That to begin with outlines what is needed.

As has already been explained to you....military ballots arrive on a federal ballot. They are verified and then hand copied to a local ballot, because the military ballot will not feed through the tabulator. There is no crease in the new ballot because it was never folded to be put into an envelope. The envelope for the federal ballot is kept with the rest of the absentee ballots and is available to be verified...as has been done in Georgia.

 

[middleview]

Didn't know what it was going to turn out to be. Should have been there. Patriots all of them.

Patriots? No. Partisan fascists? Yup...that shoe fits.

 

[God of War]

Patriots? No. Partisan fascists? Yup...that shoe fits.

Grace and providence in the long run will sort it out.

 

[God of War]

As has already been explained to you....military ballots arrive on a federal ballot. They are verified and then hand copied to a local ballot, because the military ballot will not feed through the tabulator. There is no crease in the new ballot because it was never folded to be put into an envelope. The envelope for the federal ballot is kept with the rest of the absentee ballots and is available to be verified...as has been done in Georgia.

Not what the long lived poll worker in Georgia said at the time.

 

[EatTheRich]

Not what the long lived poll worker in Georgia said at the time.

Is a “forensic audit” where you proceed to retabulate the vote as if everything “some guy said” on your side were true?

 

[God of War]

Is a “forensic audit” where you proceed to retabulate the vote as if everything “some guy said” on your side were true?

A forensic audit confirms that a ballot was lawfully cast. It ranges from checking the hardware and software of voting machines, validating chain of custody, and examining ballots to see if they are physically distinguishable as valid real government issued ballots.

What's so hard about that? I get why @middleview can't get something simple like that but why can't you? You're twice as smart as MV.

 

[Dawg]

Scott MacFarlane
@MacFarlaneNews

Sentencing at 10am in Jan 6 case of Robert Reeder This case has had twists & turns, including the 11th hour reveal of new video of Reeder before his initial sentencing date in August, allegedly showing assault on police. But no new charge We'll want to watch this hearing
Quote Tweet

Scott MacFarlane
@MacFarlaneNews
· Sep 28
Robert Reeder of Md will NOT face new, higher-level charges in US Capitol case, per new court filing from feds Reeder pleaded guilty to Misdemeanor, then during sentencing feds revealed they'd received new video showing possible assault But Misdemeanor plea deal will hold ===> twitter.com/MacFarlaneNews…



9:44 AM · Oct 8, 2021·

3 months in jail and $500 fine!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
BTW: he's a Democrat

A Capitol rioter who said he was 'just there to go to the bathroom' was sentenced to 3 months in jail after video appears to show him pushing a cop (msn.com)

Joke sentence, a bag of weed will get you more than that

 

[PhilFish]

3 months in jail and $500 fine!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

A Capitol rioter who said he was 'just there to go to the bathroom' was sentenced to 3 months in jail after video appears to show him pushing a cop (msn.com)

Joke sentence, a bag of weed will get you more than that

Yeah that's a pretty lame sentence.

 

[Bugsy McGurk]

if a democrat pardoned convicted rioters nobody would be celebrating...

3 months in jail and $500 fine!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

A Capitol rioter who said he was 'just there to go to the bathroom' was sentenced to 3 months in jail after video appears to show him pushing a cop (msn.com)

Joke sentence, a bag of weed will get you more than that

A Reagan appointed judge doling out slaps on the wrist for participating in an attempted coup. No real surprise.

 

[EatTheRich]

A forensic audit confirms that a ballot was lawfully cast. It ranges from checking the hardware and software of voting machines, validating chain of custody, and examining ballots to see if they are physically distinguishable as valid real government issued ballots.

What's so hard about that? I get why @middleview can't get something simple like that but why can't you? You're twice as smart as MV.

They did that, in Arizona, in Pennsylvania, in Michigan, in Georgia …

 

[reason10]

Then why compare pardons to bail?

You made the comparison. All I did was point out that the Ugandan Giant posted the BAIL of a REAL criminal, (who has since committed more violent riot crimes.) I wanted newly elected President Trump to do the right thing and pardon the innocent LEGAL protestors for Jan 6. He probably won't, since he'll have so much other work to do trying to save this country.

600 or so people have been arrested. All had links to pro-Trump groups...OathKeepers, three percenters...Proud boys....various right wing militias. There were even some former republican candidates for office and people fairly High up in the republican party.

That's a lie. Most of the rioters were ANTIFA.

Who do you have that is not a Trumplican?

Only idiots. And they only make up about 30 percent of America.


While there were thousands who did not riot on Jan 6, there were also a couple thousand who did. They had marching orders from Trump and Giuliani. Let's have trial by combat....let's go fight like hell to stop the "steal"....but what that really meant to the rioters was to stop the election.

That is a lie. Trump NEVER SAID "TRIAL BY COMBAT." If you somehow think you can win arguments by LYING, you're dumber than we all thought.

From the speech:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/interactive/2021/annotated-trump-speech-jan-6-capitol/

I know that everyone here will soon be marching over to the Capitol building to peacefully and patriotically make your voices heard.13

Nothing about rioting in the Capitol.

Didn't see it? Let's try again.

I know that everyone here will soon be marching over to the Capitol building to peacefully and patriotically make your voices heard.13

In other words, YOU LIED.

 

[middleview]

A forensic audit confirms that a ballot was lawfully cast. It ranges from checking the hardware and software of voting machines, validating chain of custody, and examining ballots to see if they are physically distinguishable as valid real government issued ballots.

What's so hard about that? I get why @middleview can't get something simple like that but why can't you? You're twice as smart as MV.

Once again...there is no recognized standard for what you call a forensic audit.

So now let's look at your details....cuz they represent some pretty stupid allegations of fraud.

1. Really? Ballots that are not valid government issued ballots? Have you found any evidence at all of that? No...but let's re-examine the 150 million ballots just in case. Or is it only in the states Trump lost that you think that is necessary?

So how would it be possible to somehow introduce a bunch of counterfeit ballots into the count? The number of ballots for in person must match the number of voters recorded in Poll books. So how did that happen if someone was putting tens of thousands of ballots into the count? They would have to be pulling a matching number of ballots out at the same time and it would have to be an exact match.

If you are talking about counterfeit absentee ballots the process for counting them must be a mystery to you. Every envelope is marked with a bar code. It is registered to the voter. The bar code must match the voter record, address, name and signature.
What you propose is that someone had access to the record of ballots sent out to figure out which ones could be forged. Then they'd have to print up the envelopes, bar code them and have people signing them...AND print up the ballots.

Where is there any evidence of that?

I think you should be investigated for dealing drugs. I don't have any evidence, but better safe than sorry...right? Statistical analysis shows the odds are good that an investigation would be appropriate...maybe even a body cavity search and forensic audit of your finances.

 

[middleview]

Then why compare pardons to bail?

You made the comparison. All I did was point out that the Ugandan Giant posted the BAIL of a REAL criminal, (who has since committed more violent riot crimes.) I wanted newly elected President Trump to do the right thing and pardon the innocent LEGAL protestors for Jan 6. He probably won't, since he'll have so much other work to do trying to save this country.

600 or so people have been arrested. All had links to pro-Trump groups...OathKeepers, three percenters...Proud boys....various right wing militias. There were even some former republican candidates for office and people fairly High up in the republican party.

That's a lie. Most of the rioters were ANTIFA.

Who do you have that is not a Trumplican?

Only idiots. And they only make up about 30 percent of America.


While there were thousands who did not riot on Jan 6, there were also a couple thousand who did. They had marching orders from Trump and Giuliani. Let's have trial by combat....let's go fight like hell to stop the "steal"....but what that really meant to the rioters was to stop the election.

That is a lie. Trump NEVER SAID "TRIAL BY COMBAT." If you somehow think you can win arguments by LYING, you're dumber than we all thought.

From the speech:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/interactive/2021/annotated-trump-speech-jan-6-capitol/

I know that everyone here will soon be marching over to the Capitol building to peacefully and patriotically make your voices heard.13

Nothing about rioting in the Capitol.

Didn't see it? Let's try again.

I know that everyone here will soon be marching over to the Capitol building to peacefully and patriotically make your voices heard.13

In other words, YOU LIED.

In response to criticism of the suggestion that pardoning rioters would be a good idea you brought up bail for those arrested during the demonstrations and riots during the summer, but you weren't comparing the two? Hilarious.

The 600 arrested for the DC riot are all or mostly Antifa? Really? Do you actually think you can get any rational person to believe that? Where is your evidence?

This is a picture of Dominic Pezzola a member of the Proud Boys.



You say they were mostly Antifa....got proof?