JFK Assassination 50th Anniversary: What do you think happened?

[Sunset Rose]

The 60th anniversary of the JFK assassination is quickly coming up. There will be TV Specials and documentaries to mark the occasion I'm sure. I'll probably watch a few of them.
Anybody who starts out saying that Oswald was the lone gunman loses me real fast, though.

 

[Wahbooz]

I will never buy Oswald was a lone shooter. He graded in the middle of sharpshooter, with a stationary target, and not using a bolt action rifle. I'll never accept he got off the 3 shots, with a bolt action on a moving target in 6 seconds.

 

[PNWest]

I will never buy Oswald was a lone shooter. He graded in the middle of sharpshooter, with a stationary target, and not using a bolt action rifle. I'll never accept he got off the 3 shots, with a bolt action on a moving target in 6 seconds.

No one ever showed where the bullets found on the 6th floor came from. There were 4 and 4 only. Those 6.5mm bullets were not very common but they NEVER traced where Oswald (or whoever) purchased them. I read once that there were only 2 gun stores in Dallas that carried them and Oswald didn't buy them there. They never found any type of bullet purchase made by Oswald of any mail order ammo. None.

Furthermore - they never found any evidence that Oswald had ever practiced shooting with that rifle (or anything else after he came back from Russia).

Oswald as the lone assassin makes no sense. If he was just a lone nut that wanted to get famous by shooting the President he passed up several BETTER opportunities.

1) When the limo made the left hand turn from Main onto Houston it slowed down to make the turn. That would have given Oswald a straight shot (or shots) at Kennedy at a time where the only direction the driver could go was TOWARDS the TSBD - right towards Oswald.

2) Assuming he didn't want that shot the limo made another severe left turn right UNDER Oswald - He could have dropped the rifle onto Kennedy from there and got his man.

Instead he allegedly waiting until the foliage from a Live Oak tree partially obscured the limo to start shooting. This makes no sense at all for a lone shooter. It does make sense if you have say another shooter in front of Kennedy say on the grassy knoll where all of the bystanders started running towards after the shooting stopped.

But hey - our government wouldn't lie to us would it?

[edit] if you want to see what a lone gunman Oswald would have passed up check out a disturbing game called JFK Reloaded. It puts you up on the 6th floor of the TSBD and simulates the motorcade. Very interesting if quite a bit tasteless.

 

[condorkristy]

The 60th anniversary of the JFK assassination is quickly coming up. There will be TV Specials and documentaries to mark the occasion I'm sure. I'll probably watch a few of them.
Anybody who starts out saying that Oswald was the lone gunman loses me real fast, though.

Adios

 

[Wahbooz]

I assume you meant 6.5mm. Incidentally, I think Sweden used the 6.5, and Sweden is where the CIA bought the Nasty boats used in OPLan 34A in Vietnam. Coincidence?

 

[condorkristy]

Oswald was the lone gunman that day.

Now..why Oswald was there and what motivated him...I don't think we've been told the whole story.

 

[Sunset Rose]

Oswald was the lone gunman that day.

Now..why Oswald was there and what motivated him...I don't think we've been told the whole story.

There are a few other people who still believe that. Hope you have a Happy Thanksgiving!

 

[condorkristy]

There are a few other people who still believe that. Hope you have a Happy Thanksgiving!

A few hundred million you mean.

Hope you have a happy thanksgiving too.

 

[condorkristy]

For all I know you could be a space alien. I've heard aliens have higher intelligence than humans. Wait---you must not be a space alien then

So how many gunmen do you think were there? 2, 3, 4?

 

[condorkristy]

I think there was a second shooter. Where that second shooter was located? Your guess is as good as mine -- but I think the grassy knoll is unlikely. It was too close to the crowd, too many potential witnesses. Maybe the Dal-Tex building?

Okay...

2 shooters.

When the first bullet was fiered he was traveling 11 MPH. About the same speed as an experienced jogger.

And you're telling me that this team of assassins only scored 2 or 3 hits? Hell, me and my brother probably could have done a better job than these guys.

 

[condorkristy]

Gotcha. Warren commission wrong. Conspiracy theory nuts know exactly what happened, and have perps under surveillance at this very minute, because the time is right to move in and make an arrest in the tradition of Adams and Jefferson, on a 50th year anniversary.

Makes perfect sense if using all the critical thinking one would expect of a grapefruit.

Well, I think Oswald was the lone gunman in Dallas on that day.

The multiple shooter theories just don't make sense. Kennedy would have been hit 4 or 5 times by two lousy snipers. So I don't put much faith in any other shooter having been there. Additionally, there is the physical evidence of Oswald having brought in his gun--he said he was bringing in curtain rods that were never found in the TSBD. The guy who gave him a lift said he had this oblong package that was cumbersome as well. Oswald's rifle was missing from the place it was stored. He left his money and his wedding ring behind and he left the TSBD after it happened. If you are innocent...why run at all? Why run...then take a bus, taxi, then walk home and get your gun?

So I am 99.9% sure that Oswald was the lone gunman and 100% sure he was one of the "gunmen" in any scenario.

Why he did it? I think you need to look at organized crime. Ruby was a shady character with many previous arrests and ties to organized crime. I think he wanted to silence Oswald. Its speculation on my part but it fits.

 

[Raoul_Luke]

Well, I think Oswald was the lone gunman in Dallas on that day.

The multiple shooter theories just don't make sense. Kennedy would have been hit 4 or 5 times by two lousy snipers. So I don't put much faith in any other shooter having been there. Additionally, there is the physical evidence of Oswald having brought in his gun--he said he was bringing in curtain rods that were never found in the TSBD. The guy who gave him a lift said he had this oblong package that was cumbersome as well. Oswald's rifle was missing from the place it was stored. He left his money and his wedding ring behind and he left the TSBD after it happened. If you are innocent...why run at all? Why run...then take a bus, taxi, then walk home and get your gun?

So I am 99.9% sure that Oswald was the lone gunman and 100% sure he was one of the "gunmen" in any scenario.

Why he did it? I think you need to look at organized crime. Ruby was a shady character with many previous arrests and ties to organized crime. I think he wanted to silence Oswald. Its speculation on my part but it fits.

Not if they were really good shots, and not if they were attempting to stay within the "lone gunman" narrative, but just making sure he didn't miss.

First it was the secret service agent who was in the car with JFK:

JFK Assassination Witness Breaks 60-Year Silence, Refutes Key Claim | ZeroHedge

ZeroHedge - On a long enough timeline, the survival rate for everyone drops to zero

www.zerohedge.com

Now it's the doctors who attended to him at Parkland:

JFK Assassination Doctors Break Silence, Dispute Key Government Claim | ZeroHedge

ZeroHedge - On a long enough timeline, the survival rate for everyone drops to zero

www.zerohedge.com

At some point, you gotta start wondering why they are not relesing the investigation files...

 

[saltydancin]

There are a few other people who still believe that. Hope you have a Happy Thanksgiving!

Just another day in a Christian Nation that continues it's condescending arrogance of killing in giving thanks "one nation under God with equal justice under color of being forgiven law". Such a despicable & deranged national religion of thieving US Constitution Bill of Rights arsonists as a Mohammed Valhalla pedophilia martyrdom jihad crusade....

 

[condorkristy]

Not if they were really good shots, and not if they were attempting to stay within the "lone gunman" narrative, but just making sure he didn't miss.

First it was the secret service agent who was in the car with JFK:

JFK Assassination Witness Breaks 60-Year Silence, Refutes Key Claim | ZeroHedge

ZeroHedge - On a long enough timeline, the survival rate for everyone drops to zero

www.zerohedge.com

Now it's the doctors who attended to him at Parkland:

JFK Assassination Doctors Break Silence, Dispute Key Government Claim | ZeroHedge

ZeroHedge - On a long enough timeline, the survival rate for everyone drops to zero

www.zerohedge.com

At some point, you gotta start wondering why they are not relesing the investigation files...

Thanks for the chuckle. They were so good that two or more assassins scored 2 hits. Lotsa humor there

 

[Jack4freedom]

Oswald was the lone gunman that day.

Now..why Oswald was there and what motivated him...I don't think we've been told the whole story.

Oswald = CIA plant……Oswald/DeMorinchild/Bush Connection can not be denied….Reagan was also shot by Bush associate.…I am not sure about everything behind both Kennedy murders and Reagan attempted assassinations but lone nut gunman theories are total bullshit.….These we’re all professional hits.

 

[middleview]

Oswald = CIA plant……Oswald/DeMorinchild/Bush Connection can not be denied….Reagan was also shot by Bush associate.…I am not sure about everything behind both Kennedy murders and Reagan attempted assassinations but lone nut gunman theories are total bullshit.….These we’re all professional hits.

So professional that there was no plan to escape for the shooters...Oswald shot a policeman. Just cuz? Oswald bought the rifle by mail. Oswald transported the rifle to the Depository. His palm print was found at the hiding place where the rifle was found.

John Hinckley was tackled and restrained after having fired the gun. Was there a second shooter? Nah. How was he associated with the Bush family? Oh...he thought he was being harassed by the FBI or CIA and sent a letter to George HW Bush asking for help.

The letter said:

You will excuse this hand-written letter. Maybe you will be able to bring a solution to the hopeless situation I find myself in. My wife and I find ourselves surrounded by some vigilantes; our phone bugged; and we are being followed everywhere. Either FBI is involved in this or they do not want to accept my complaints. We are driven to insanity by the situation. I have been behaving like a damn fool ever since my daughter Nadya died from [cystic fibrosis] over three years ago. I tried to write, stupidly and unsuccessfully, about Lee H Oswald and must have angered a lot of people — I do not know. But to punish an elderly man like myself and my highly nervous and sick wife is really too much. Could you do something to remove the net around us? This will be my last request for help and I will not annoy you any more. Good luck in your important job. Thank you so much.[64][65]

George H. W. Bush responded:

Let me say first that I know it must have been difficult for you to seek my help in the situation outlined in your letter. I believe I can appreciate your state of mind in view of your daughter's tragic death a few years ago, and the current poor state of your wife's health. I was extremely sorry to hear of these circumstances. In your situation I can well imagine how the attentions you described in your letter affect both you and your wife. However, my staff has been unable to find any indication of interest in your activities on the part of Federal authorities in recent years. The flurry of interest that attended your testimony before the Warren Commission has long subsided. I can only speculate that you may have become "newsworthy" again in view of the renewed interest in the Kennedy assassination, and thus may be attracting the attention of people in the media. I hope this letter had been of some comfort to you, George, although I realize I am unable to answer your question completely.

George de Mohrenschildt - Wikipedia

 

[Raoul_Luke]

Thanks for the chuckle. They were so good that two or more assassins scored 2 hits. Lotsa humor there

Thanks for showing you have no business being here. The point is they were NOT TRYING TO MAKE IT LOOK LIKE TWO OR MORE ASSASSINS! Read about the really good snipers - they only need one shot.

Look, if you are really as unserious as you showed here, maybe you should try a knitting board...

 

[Jack4freedom]

So professional that there was no plan to escape for the shooters...Oswald shot a policeman. Just cuz? Oswald bought the rifle by mail. Oswald transported the rifle to the Depository. His palm print was found at the hiding place where the rifle was found.

John Hinckley was tackled and restrained after having fired the gun. Was there a second shooter? Nah. How was he associated with the Bush family? Oh...he thought he was being harassed by the FBI or CIA and sent a letter to George HW Bush asking for help.

The letter said:


George H. W. Bush responded:


George de Mohrenschildt - Wikipedia

DeMorinschild was Oswald’s sponsor. He was also an associate of GHW Bush. What are the odds? Hinckley was the mentally ill son of a close Bush associate. If Hinckley had succeeded, guess who would have been sworn in the next day? Again, What are the odds? Same with Cuban exiles who were present at LA Ambassador. Hotel the night Bobby Kennedy was murdered by a bullet fired from point blank range from behind Senator Kennedy’s head according to LA County Coroner Thomas Nogouchi. Some of these same Cubans were later involved in Watergate break in. . Sirhan was never closer than 3 feet from Kennedy and was in front of him, not behind him. A hired guard, Eugene Thanes Caesar was the one who fired the kill shot while patsy Sirhan created a diversion by firing shots from in front of Bobby.

 

[condorkristy]

Oswald = CIA plant……Oswald/DeMorinchild/Bush Connection can not be denied….

Yet here I’ll deny it.

Reagan was also shot by Bush associate.…

Not likely.

I am not sure about everything behind both Kennedy murders and Reagan attempted assassinations but lone nut gunman theories are total bullshit.….

This is where we share common ground. One of the very few (if not the only) people to have defected from one super power to another and back with his family just happens to be the guy to execute the President??? Sounds pretty unbelievable. That a month before he kills JFK he visit the Russian and Cuban embassies in Mexico? Again...weird. Also if the theory is that you have a lone nut out there just ready to pounce, we’d have political assassinations every day because we sure as hell have more lonely nutballs who are armed than ever before in history. Why aren’t they shooting people?

So I don’t buy the motive put out by the warren commission. I also don’t buy that there was a team of assassins in Dallas that day. What I think happened was this. LHO wants to defect to Cuba--the reason for the visit after the Russians turned him down-- and was told unofficially to kill Kennedy as a way to make his bones so to speak. They never intended to let him defect...they just wanted the guy who invaded their nation dead. So if Oswald kills JFK...they get what they wanted. If he doesn’t kill JFK, they have deniability. So they promised him safe passage out of Dallas--hence the “I’m a patsy” reference. This is why he didn’t bring his pistol with him that morning; he didn’t think he’d need it. This is why he left his stuff behind. And this is why he did what he did after the killed JFK.

These we’re all professional hits.

If these people, Hinkley and LHO are the best our intel community can drum up...God help us all. Professionals? Not even close. For one thing, both were caught.

 

[Jack4freedom]

Yet here I’ll deny it.


Not likely.


This is where we share common ground. One of the very few (if not the only) people to have defected from one super power to another and back with his family just happens to be the guy to execute the President??? Sounds pretty unbelievable. That a month before he kills JFK he visit the Russian and Cuban embassies in Mexico? Again...weird. Also if the theory is that you have a lone nut out there just ready to pounce, we’d have political assassinations every day because we sure as hell have more lonely nutballs who are armed than ever before in history. Why aren’t they shooting people?

So I don’t buy the motive put out by the warren commission. I also don’t buy that there was a team of assassins in Dallas that day. What I think happened was this. LHO wants to defect to Cuba--the reason for the visit after the Russians turned him down-- and was told unofficially to kill Kennedy as a way to make his bones so to speak. They never intended to let him defect...they just wanted the guy who invaded their nation dead. So if Oswald kills JFK...they get what they wanted. If he doesn’t kill JFK, they have deniability. So they promised him safe passage out of Dallas--hence the “I’m a patsy” reference. This is why he didn’t bring his pistol with him that morning; he didn’t think he’d need it. This is why he left his stuff behind. And this is why he did what he did after the killed JFK.


If these people, Hinkley and LHO are the best our intel community can drum up...God help us all. Professionals? Not even close. For one thing, both were caught.

Definite connection between Bush, DeMorenshild and Oswald. If you deny it, it’s only because you have not looked into it.

If you think it’s not likely that there is a connection between Bush and Hinckley families you obviously never looked into that connection either. If you choose to remain ignorant, that’s on you.