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Kyrsten Sinema: Dems hypocritical for trying to end filibuster after using it 'just last year'

Raoul_Luke

I feel a bit lightheaded. Maybe you should drive.
Because regardless of the flavor of democracy, you Trumpist want to throw it all in the garbage purely on the lies and, for the sake of, your cult leader and to preserve the lower levels of the leadership .
Get a clue! We are (obviously) the ones who are attempting to defend the political system as designed by the USA founding fathers. You radicals are the ones trying to remake it in the image of Cuba, Venezueala and the USSR. That kind of makes you bozos the "insurrectionists" here...
 

Spamature

President
Get a clue! We are (obviously) the ones who are attempting to defend the political system as designed by the USA founding fathers. You radicals are the ones trying to remake it in the image of Cuba, Venezueala and the USSR. That kind of makes you bozos the "insurrectionists" here...
No, you're just trying to recreate the conditions in all of those countries before they had revolutions. You want juntas and cult of personality govt propped up by foreign intervention and manipulation.

You proved you had turned your backs on democracy on Nov 3rd, and since then you have done all you can to validate that truth.
 

Raoul_Luke

I feel a bit lightheaded. Maybe you should drive.
No, you're just trying to recreate the conditions in all of those countries before they had revolutions. You want juntas and cult of personality govt propped up by foreign intervention and manipulation.

You proved you had turned your backs on democracy on Nov 3rd, and since then you have done all you can to validate that truth.
Hello! We aren't the ones claiming we need to "fundamentally transform" America:

obama quote fundamentally transform - Bing

You lose (again).
 

Spamature

President
Hello! We aren't the ones claiming we need to "fundamentally transform" America:

obama quote fundamentally transform - Bing

You lose (again)..
Yes, a quote from 13 yrs ago.
Then his supporters formed a mob and tried to seize control of the govt to make his words a reality ?

Because that happened just 6 months ago, and it had nothing to do with Obama.

At least on the surface, at that moment you could say that non tangentially.

Put those word right into action.

Had your Trump mob succeeded, we most certainly would have been fundamentally transformed.
 
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middleview

President
Supporting Member
There is no requirement to bring anything or anyone to "a vote". The Constitution simply requires the "consent" of the Senate. The entire majority of the judiciary committee, who holds hearings, unanimously rejected his nomination and declined hearings. There were 52 senators who came out and publicly supported no hearings. Garland didn't have the consent of the Senate.

Around and around we go. Edited

Edited.
The first time since the civil war that one party held up a nomination purely for political reasons....Clarence Thomas was confirmed by a democratic majority.

In fact McConnell said no appointee from Obama would be considered.
 

middleview

President
Supporting Member
Sorry but that crap didn't fly. The democrat attempt to take over voting rights got flushed as it should have been.
Figures you'd think preventing unreasonable rules being imposed on voters around the country is an attempt to take over the right to vote....You'd have made the same claim when the democrats passed the 1964 civil rights act or subsequent legislation to prevent poll taxes or poll tests.
 

Mick

The Right is always right
Because regardless of the flavor of democracy, you Trumpist want to throw it all in the garbage purely on the lies and, for the sake of, your cult leader and to preserve the lower levels of the leadership .
Says the people who 6 months ago declared the filibuster as necessary for democracy and used it repeatedly but who now say it's anti-democacy.

Deranged, no?
 

Mick

The Right is always right
The first time since the civil war that one party held up a nomination purely for political reasons....Clarence Thomas was confirmed
Ever heard of Robert Bork? Did you see what Dems tried with Kavanaugh? Your lies are horrendous. The sign of true evil.
 

middleview

President
Supporting Member
Ever heard of Robert Bork? Did you see what Dems tried with Kavanaugh? Your lies are horrendous. The sign of true evil.
There is a huge difference between "holding up the nomination" and denying it in a vote.

On October 23, 1987, the Senate denied Bork's confirmation, with 42 Senators voting in favor and 58 voting against. Two Democratic senators, David Boren (D-OK) and Ernest Hollings (D-SC), voted in his favor, while six Republican senators – John Chafee (R-RI), Bob Packwood (R-OR), Arlen Specter (R-PA), Robert Stafford (R-VT), John Warner (R-VA), and Lowell P. Weicker Jr. (R-CT) – voted against Bork.[40] His defeat in the Senate was the worst against any Supreme Court nominee since George Washington Woodward was defeated 20—29 in 1845, and the third-worst on record.
 

Bronwyn

Unapoligetically Republican
Figures you'd think preventing unreasonable rules being imposed on voters around the country is an attempt to take over the right to vote....You'd have made the same claim when the democrats passed the 1964 civil rights act or subsequent legislation to prevent poll taxes or poll tests.
The only thing unreasonable is allowing the cheating that democrats do to win. Allowing illegals to vote is not reasonable. Claiming black people aren't smart enough to obtain ID os not reasonable in todays day and age.
 

middleview

President
Supporting Member
The only thing unreasonable is allowing the cheating that democrats do to win. Allowing illegals to vote is not reasonable. Claiming black people aren't smart enough to obtain ID os not reasonable in todays day and age.
What is unreasonable is for you to continue to make this shit up in the hopes of persuading anyone that you know WTF you are talking about.

Why is it a reasonable rule to say people standing in line to vote for hours cannot be given water? Why is it reasonable to tell people they can't vote on Sunday before 1pm?

The fillibuster isn't about cheating.
Nobody is talking about that legislation letting illegal immigrants to vote.
Nobody claims anyone is not smart enough to get photo ID.

Why do you bother?
 

Bronwyn

Unapoligetically Republican
They should bring their own water. States control the voting hours. Filibuster has nothing to do with voting rights, HR1 had the provision to allow illegals to vote, liberals claim voting laws suppress black voters. Why do you spin like a top trying to convince people that liberal lunacy is acceptable?
 

JuliefromOhio

President
Supporting Member
Sen Mitch McConnell/Republicans changed the filibuster rule in 2017 dropping the 60 vote threshold to 51 for SCOTUS nominees.

Democrats should modify the filibuster while they have the majority in order to get laws passed that will benefit average Americans.
 

middleview

President
Supporting Member
They should bring their own water. States control the voting hours. Filibuster has nothing to do with voting rights, HR1 had the provision to allow illegals to vote, liberals claim voting laws suppress black voters. Why do you spin like a top trying to convince people that liberal lunacy is acceptable?
Why lie? There was nothing in HR1 to allow non-citizens the right to vote in federal elections.


The rule about no voting on Sunday mornings is aimed at the efforts at black churches to bring church goers to the polls.

"they should bring their own water"....WTF. What does handing water to a person in line mean to prevent free and fair elections? It is typically poor areas that have long lines at the polls. Just like restricting mail in ballots is meant to make it harder for people who cannot take time off to vote or those who rely on public transportation.
 

Bronwyn

Unapoligetically Republican
Why lie? There was nothing in HR1 to allow non-citizens the right to vote in federal elections.

The rule about no voting on Sunday mornings is aimed at the efforts at black churches to bring church goers to the polls.

"they should bring their own water"....WTF. What does handing water to a person in line mean to prevent free and fair elections? It is typically poor areas that have long lines at the polls. Just like restricting mail in ballots is meant to make it harder for people who cannot take time off to vote or those who rely on public transportation.
Laws are in place. Why do you lie? Restricting mail in ballots to those who request them is not making it harder at all. So only Blacks go to church on Sunday mornings? Waiting in line is a fact of life. Get used to it.
 

middleview

President
Supporting Member
Laws are in place. Why do you lie? Restricting mail in ballots to those who request them is not making it harder at all. So only Blacks go to church on Sunday mornings? Waiting in line is a fact of life. Get used to it.
The Pews to the Polls effort was unique to black churches.
The fact that there are fewer machines in some areas (typically black) in Georgia or Texas says...if you're black, get used to a 3 hour wait to vote.
Providing water to people in line does not create an election issue.

Do you have any evidence that people received absentee ballots without asking for them? Actually Colorado has done that for years. Every registered and active voter gets absentee ballots. There is no in person voting here. Works very well. The fact is that every battleground state Trump lost required that people request a mail in ballot. None mailed ballots without a request.

Georgia
How Do I Vote by Absentee Ballot?

Fill Out & Submit an Absentee Ballot Application


Pennsylvania

Any qualified voter may apply for a mail-in ballot. You may simply request this ballot without a reason.

Arizona
REQUESTING YOUR BALLOT

  1. If you would like to receive your ballot by mail for the November 3rd General Election, make your request now.
  2. Ballots will be mailed out to voters that are on the Permanent Early Voting List or have requested a one time early ballot via first class mail beginning on Wednesday, October 7th.


Michigan
Requesting an absent voter ballot


Voters may request an absent voter ballot or accessible voter ballot in a variety of ways. Voters can complete an online application at Michigan.gov/Vote or submit an application, large print application, letter, or postcard to your local clerk. Find your local clerk at Michigan.gov/Vote. Requests for absent voter ballots may be returned may be returned by hand, via postal mail, fax or email, as long as a signature is visible.

 
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