who is expending the capital?
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TheTrueRepublican
Council Member
Demand... create those job openings.
If there’s no increase demand there would be no reason for me to expand my online retailer side business with a physical warehouse and hiring physical workers.
Paying less taxes just means I’ll buy more guns and a newer boat.
well, he just comlplains.. let him go do something about it...
EatTheRich
President
Obviously untrue. It is a precondition of the existence of capital that the majority lack capital and hence provide the exploited labor that keeps capital from being depleted. Supply and demand also dictates that the average amount workers can get through their own labor is just that amount needed to keep them alive and working, without any left over to save.
The 47 billionaires who collectively own more wealth than the 160 million poorest Americans (many of whom are working 80-110-hour weeks) combined didn’t get those fortunes by expending more than 3 million times as much energy.
EatTheRich
President
The ruling capitalists “expend” capital, temporarily, to induce workers to produce commodities that are in turn sold for more money than the original expenditure. The workers who produce those commodities, meanwhile, in essence sell them for less than the value their labor adds to the cost of the raw materials, so that the ruling capitalists, while remaining idle, can reap those profits, and do so on expense of being cut off from access to the necessities of life which the ruling capitalists (without doing anything to produce them) in essence hoard.
EatTheRich
President
Pointing out social injustice is a necessary part of building the kind of fighting movement that alone can do something about it.
We're really not trying to solve for that are we? In my mind what is at issue is your complaining that you don't have enough. I keep repeating the remedy to you which is go out educate yourself earn more keep on going until you're earning what is adequate for your needs. It's very simple formula people have followed it for years..
Yes that is what is called business and commerce. Persons engaging in such endeavors hope to earn more than what they put in, if they didn't we'd all be farming individually and growing just enough for each of ourselves and no one else. But in a collaborative society and the mutual exchange of goods by way of bartering and exchanging monies and other services is the general nature of how society functions.
Your formula is wrong. You're trying to cash the capitalist as the bad guy that sits there doing nothing. When in reality the capitalist provides the capital that is used and expended for the purchase of goods and materials and other items and services that are then commingled to produce what's called a business endeavor, you know we've been here before, buildings and factories and machinery and the power that runs them and so on. That all is provided by somebody and doesn't appear out of thin air. You can pretend all you want that that's not the case but it is in fact the case. Even so in this socialist Utopia that you so desire, somebody is expending all that money.
There's a rather definitive remedy to social injustice, people of Goodwill combined together and help those most in need. The other remedy the social injustice is to help oneself and not sit there in some pitiful State pointing at everyone else.
19 or was it 25 hours a week working in a book store doesn't give one much capital
EatTheRich
President
No, my issue is with the BILLIONS who don’t have enough and that the system we live under only works if there are billions who don’t have enough. YOU keep wanting to pretend it’s about me and my ostensible lack of education personally.
EatTheRich
President
There is a difference between social cooperation and organized exploitation. What differentiates capitalism from socialism is that under capitalism investment is divorced from labor and allows for profit without exertion by those who only risk hoarded wealth produced by the oppressed class.
EatTheRich
President
Then there is the remedy that actually worked to mostly get rid of the social evils of slavery and feudalism ... class struggle.
EatTheRich
President
40, now. And 40 hours a week working ANYWHERE doesn’t give one any capital (with rare exception for very high-paid workers like Oprah).
So, two college degrees were a waste of time and money.............
EatTheRich
President
Some value education and skills, but they aren’t the ones calling the shots in Trumpistan.
I have no idea whether you're educated or not. My only suggestion is if you don't like it go out and fix it.
Beyond that, I have no argument with or inclination against persons who are in need of assistance. Other than that there are billions of people on this Earth that live an inch off the ground, on less than dollars a day if that
You seem to think that that condition is the fault of the wealthy. It's not.
We seem to go round and round. What are you doing about it? Have you eschewed the use of electronics? What are you typing on now? Do you own a cell phone? A pair of sneakers? If you answered yes to any of these then you are part of the problem, as your money's go to fuel the cycle of capitalism that results in the production of these items by persons living in dirt huts in near poverty conditions likely in sweatshops and the like..
Wtf? By that measure your party to it just like everyone else, in that you fuel this cycle that you so lament
So it ever was. From the tribalist societies, on upward
"Some" well it doesn't seem to have benefitted you very much, you claim to NOW be working 40 rather than 19 and still don't own a Home and still crying of the "rich", why?
I know many with less education than you claim to have obtained and own homes/cars/property and have worked 40 for years, what are they doing wrong compared to YOU?
Here's some Free advice, if 40 isn't doing it for you, try 60 or maybe 80.
