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FakeName

Governor
Where did you get THAT definition?

Here is Merriam Webster.

Definition of fascism
1 a political philosophy, movement, or regime (such as that of the Fascisti) that exalts nation and often race above the individual and that stands for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition​


No mention of "Right wing". I think you added that in there. LOL
Sorry. I thought I cited it.....sorry for the omission.

Here is the citation for the one above,
and a few more.

Fascism
an extreme right-wing political system or attitude that is in favour of strong central government, aggressively promoting your own country or race above others, and that does not allow any opposition.
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Oxford Learner's Dictionaries › fasci...
fascism noun - Definition, pictures ... - Oxford Learner's Dictionaries

etc.
 

FakeName

Governor
So you're supporting the absolute claim that ALL fascism is right-wing?

Let's look at a vague definition of the word:

In general, fascism distinguishes itself for its intolerance of political opponents, suppression of freedom of speech and lack of respect for the democratic principles of a majority vote as well as exclusion or isolation of other democratic parties and the use of violence.

Sounds like it can be, and has been, applied by either sides of the "aisle".

I understand wanting to try to make it stick only on your political opponent, but doing so is dishonest and in bad faith, despite being by definition incorrect.

Still want to claim that ALL fascism is right wing.. even with real world examples in front of you like large ANTIFA terrorist attacks?
More, about the false arguments that nazis were actually leftist or socialist.

"Above all, the Nazis were German white nationalists. What they stood for was the ascendancy of the “Aryan” race and the German nation, by any means necessary. Despite co-opting the name, some of the rhetoric, and even some of the precepts of socialism, Hitler and party did so with utter cynicism, and with vastly different goals. The claim that the Nazis actually were leftists or socialists in any generally accepted sense of those terms flies in the face of historical reality."

That explains it pretty well. Hope it helps.
 

Mr. Friscus

Governor
No. First of all because it isn't true.

Secondly, any good people who were there to peacefully protest would have left in shame or switched sides as soon as they saw all the Nazi flags and klansmen.
You're acting like they didn't. I forgot, you know what everyone did LMAO.

The initial protest and counter protest was what Trump referred to. He said there were "Very fine people on both sides". That's the quote.

Then the "Unite the Right" and ANTIFA showed up.

I can't debate someone who is writing a fantasy novel.
 

FakeName

Governor
You're acting like they didn't. I forgot, you know what everyone did LMAO.

The initial protest and counter protest was what Trump referred to. He said there were "Very fine people on both sides". That's the quote.

Then the "Unite the Right" and ANTIFA showed up.

I can't debate someone who is writing a fantasy novel.
The initial protest was unite the right, organized by white nationalists. I provided you citations that prove that.
 

RickWA

Snagglesooth
Nope.

The entire "Unite the Right" rally was organized by alt right Nazis and included speakers like Richard Spencer.

"The Unite the Right rally[4] was a white supremacist and neo-Nazi[5][6][7][8] rally that was conducted in Charlottesville, Virginia, from August 11 to 12, 2017.[9][10] Protesters were members of the far-right and included self-identified members of the alt-right,[11] neo-Confederates,[12] neo-fascists,[13] white nationalists,[14] neo-Nazis,[15] Klansmen,[16] and various right-wing militias.[17] The marchers chanted racist and antisemitic slogans, carried weapons, Nazi and neo-Nazi symbols, the Valknut, Confederate battle flags, Deus Vult crosses, flags and other symbols of various past and present anti-Muslim and antisemitic groups.[8][9][18][19][20][21][22] The organizers' stated goals included unifying the American white nationalist movement[11] and opposing proposed removal of the statue of General Robert E. Lee from Charlottesville's former Lee Park.[21][23]"

there were no good people on that side.
There are indeed “good people” on both sides of the statue removal issue.

But feel free to be dishonest. Lefty gotta lie...
 

FakeName

Governor
There are indeed “good people” on both sides of the statue removal issue.

But feel free to be dishonest. Lefty gotta lie...
Yes there are good people on both sides of the statue removal issue but that isn't the subject. We are talking specifically about the Charlottesville rally, which was the Unite the right rally.

Any good people that showed up and saw all the Nazis and klansmen either changed sides or went back home in embarrassment.

There were no good people marching side by side with Klansmen and Nazis.

But feel free to be dishonest. Righty gotta lie...
 
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RickWA

Snagglesooth
Yes there are good people on both sides of the statue removal issue but that isn't the subject. We are talking specifically about the Charlottesville rally, which was the Unite the right rally.

Any good people that showed up and saw all the Nazis and klansmen either changed sides or went back home in embarrassment.

There were no good people marching side by side with Klansmen and Nazis.

But feel free to be dishonest. Righty gotta lie...
Factually speaking (anathema to lefty), there were attendees who against statue removal and had NO link nor affinity for nazis whatsoever. Lots of them.

When one’s movement and philosophy demands lies, he ought to ponder its worth.
 

FakeName

Governor
Factually speaking (anathema to lefty), there were attendees who against statue removal and had NO link nor affinity for nazis whatsoever. Lots of them.

When one’s movement and philosophy demands lies, he ought to ponder its worth.
No, there weren't. Good people don't March with Nazis and klansmen, so anyone who stayed and participated was not a good person.

So factually speaking (athama to Righty) There were no good people on the 'unite the right" side. Anybody who showed up with good intentions would have either switched sides or left at the first site of all the Nazis and Klansmen.

When one’s movement and philosophy demands lies, he ought to ponder its worth.
 
No, there weren't. Good people don't March with Nazis and klansmen, so anyone who stayed and participated was not a good person.

So factually speaking (athama to Righty) There were no good people on the 'unite the right" side. Anybody who showed up with good intentions would have either switched sides or left at the first site of all the Nazis and Klansmen.

When one’s movement and philosophy demands lies, he ought to ponder its worth.
Hahahahahahahahahaha!

 

RickWA

Snagglesooth
No, there weren't. Good people don't March with Nazis and klansmen, so anyone who stayed and participated was not a good person.

So factually speaking (athama to Righty) There were no good people on the 'unite the right" side. Anybody who showed up with good intentions would have either switched sides or left at the first site of all the Nazis and Klansmen.

When one’s movement and philosophy demands lies, he ought to ponder its worth.
Normal people don’t “march” period. However, certainly non-nazis were there by the hundreds...opposing the removal of monuments. While I KNOW you will continue lying about this...good, decent, normal, well-adjusted people know and understand the truth.

This is much the same as some decent liberal protestors being present at same events as violent, storefront-bashing antifa folks.

Amazing, no? There can actually be differing groups of people at events.

Now then, continue your leftyfilth lying. It’s all the BAD lefties do.
 

Colorforms

Senator
Absolutely false. Every fascist movement in history has been aggressively anti-leftist.
Not sure if you know your history. The fascist movement in Germany came about after the collapse of the existing regime. It was not "anti-left" until they took power.

Every fascist regime starts off as "left" until they become the establishment. The US is no different.
 

EatTheRich

President
You're incorrect. There wasn't one protest by "Unite the Right". The idiot, evil KKK folks were a second movement that jumped in on an already planned protest of taking down the monument of Robert E. Lee.

The original protest was of normal, peaceful people who just had an issue with historical accuracy and consistency via the monument. And then, there was a counter protest of also peaceful, normal people who wanted the statue taken down. We can disagree on whether which side is correct, but that's not what we're talking about. You're erroneously thinking it was all one protest when it wasn't, and that's a fact.

Trump called the peaceful movement "Good people", and openly bashed the "Unite the right" evil folk (a fact you refuse to acknowledge on purpose). Then, after aggressive, evil neo-Nazi's showed up, aggressive, evil ANTIFA members showed up.. the local police were completely unable to control the situation, and tragedy ensued. Escalation, provoking, violence by both sides until someone lost their life. An evil guys car, approaching ANTIFA and other protesters, was assaulted, and he reacted inhumanely and floored it into a crowd... dispicable, but clearly provoked as well. Crowd panics are dangerous. Nothing good was going to come out of this once the evil people from both sides showed up with so little police control of the situation. I'd imagine most of the "good people" (from both sides) had long gotten out of the there by the time the crazy evil people were active.

You, like the media, lied about what happened and what he said. I don't throw the term around a lot, but when the unquestioned explanation comes out of what actually happened, and you still choose to be wrong about it for political reasons... you're lying.

Glad I could help in better understanding.. but.. I'm guessing you have no interest in what actually happened.
The “original protest” was heavily advertised in advance with anti-Semitic, neo-Nazi flyers. Anyone going knew they were gonna be marching side by side with Nazis and Klansmen.
 

EatTheRich

President
You're incorrect. There wasn't one protest by "Unite the Right". The idiot, evil KKK folks were a second movement that jumped in on an already planned protest of taking down the monument of Robert E. Lee.

The original protest was of normal, peaceful people who just had an issue with historical accuracy and consistency via the monument. And then, there was a counter protest of also peaceful, normal people who wanted the statue taken down. We can disagree on whether which side is correct, but that's not what we're talking about. You're erroneously thinking it was all one protest when it wasn't, and that's a fact.

Trump called the peaceful movement "Good people", and openly bashed the "Unite the right" evil folk (a fact you refuse to acknowledge on purpose). Then, after aggressive, evil neo-Nazi's showed up, aggressive, evil ANTIFA members showed up.. the local police were completely unable to control the situation, and tragedy ensued. Escalation, provoking, violence by both sides until someone lost their life. An evil guys car, approaching ANTIFA and other protesters, was assaulted, and he reacted inhumanely and floored it into a crowd... dispicable, but clearly provoked as well. Crowd panics are dangerous. Nothing good was going to come out of this once the evil people from both sides showed up with so little police control of the situation. I'd imagine most of the "good people" (from both sides) had long gotten out of the there by the time the crazy evil people were active.

You, like the media, lied about what happened and what he said. I don't throw the term around a lot, but when the unquestioned explanation comes out of what actually happened, and you still choose to be wrong about it for political reasons... you're lying.

Glad I could help in better understanding.. but.. I'm guessing you have no interest in what actually happened.
Fields, unprovoked, sped as fast as possible toward the crowd, before they attempted to fight back by striking at his car.
 

EatTheRich

President
Where did you get THAT definition?

Here is Merriam Webster.

Definition of fascism
1 a political philosophy, movement, or regime (such as that of the Fascisti) that exalts nation and often race above the individual and that stands for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition​


No mention of "Right wing". I think you added that in there. LOL
Exalting nation above individual ... chauvinism and statism (right-wing). Severe economic and social regimentation ... preserving hierarchical inequalities (right-wing).
 

Colorforms

Senator
False.

The fascists in this country organized and participated in the "Unite the Right" rally.

Obviously they aren't leftists.
Actually, those are white supremacists, not fascists. Fascists are the a-holes who took jars of pee and pepper spray and attacked those white supremacists. :)
 

EatTheRich

President
Factually speaking (anathema to lefty), there were attendees who against statue removal and had NO link nor affinity for nazis whatsoever. Lots of them.

When one’s movement and philosophy demands lies, he ought to ponder its worth.
No link other than showing up at a rally organized by Nazi sympathizers and marching shoulder to shoulder with Nazis.
 

RickWA

Snagglesooth
No link other than showing up at a rally organized by Nazi sympathizers and marching shoulder to shoulder with Nazis.
There were opposition protesters there as well. “Shoulder to shoulder”...right, honest lefty?

Or...is it possible that people of differing views and principles attend an event? Now...think hard on this, lefty. There is an attendance standard you (both now) have applied. If one attends a given event or protest, he is of like mind and solidarity. Right? No room for parsing or nuance here. Step right up.
 

EatTheRich

President
There were opposition protesters there as well. “Shoulder to shoulder”...right, honest lefty?

Or...is it possible that people of differing views and principles attend an event? Now...think hard on this, lefty. There is an attendance standard you (both now) have applied. If one attends a given event or protest, he is of like mind and solidarity. Right? No room for parsing or nuance here. Step right up.
Yes, people who attend an event (not as counter-protesters) can be assumed to be in sympathy with the *organizers* of the event.
 

FakeName

Governor
Normal people don’t “march” period. However, certainly non-nazis were there by the hundreds...opposing the removal of monuments.
No, there weren't.

Good people do not match with Nazis and Klansmen.

Any people who showed up with good intentions either switched sides or left when they realized it was a Nazi/Klan event.

You are the one who is either lying or thinks you can March with Nazis and still call yourself a good person.
 
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