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Colorforms

Senator
That means that the founders were anti-democratic and statist. The DNC is “left” only compared with the Republicans. The Socialist Internationals did operate in multiple countries. Mussolini, the founder of fascism, claimed it was a movement of the right.
The founders were not "anti-democratic". They just realized that a flat out democracy would not work in a system such as ours. Within each state is an entirely democratic system.

So now you're admitting that democrats are socialists at the very least. Nice.

Great, Mussolini has been long dead, and the left is very much taking up the mantle. :)
 
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EatTheRich

President
The founders were not "anti-democratic". They just realized that a flat out democracy would not work in a system such as ours. Within each state is an entirely democratic system.
Most of them were quite openly anti-democratic. If states today are relatively democratic internally, it is thanks to plebeian struggle against the ruling elites.

So now you're admitting that democrats are socialists at the very least. Nice.
I “admit” nothing of the kind.
Great, Mussolini has been long dead, and the left is very much taking up the mantle. :)
If you ignore Mussolini’s, you know, policies.
 
If racism isn’t wrong, I don’t want to be (on the) right.
You're confused. Most racism today is coming from the left, as evidenced by this (and other recent) church burning, Joe Biden's racist attacks on the black community today and in the past, and the continued support from the left for overt racists like Ralph Northam, Louis Farrakhan, Al Sharpton, Joe Biden, and Bill and Hillary Clinton.
 

EatTheRich

President
You're confused. Most racism today is coming from the left, as evidenced by this (and other recent) church burning, Joe Biden's racist attacks on the black community today and in the past, and the continued support from the left for overt racists like Ralph Northam, Louis Farrakhan, Al Sharpton, Joe Biden, and Bill and Hillary Clinton.
1. We don’t know who perpetrated this attack.
2. What leftists support Northam?
3. What about the much more blatant racists on the right ... Donald Trump, Jeff Sessions, Richard Spencer, Steve King, Sebastian Gorka, Stephen Miller, David Duke?
 

Colorforms

Senator
Most of them were quite openly anti-democratic. If states today are relatively democratic internally, it is thanks to plebeian struggle against the ruling elites.


I “admit” nothing of the kind.

If you ignore Mussolini’s, you know, policies.
LOL hardly. In fact, states have less democratic leeway these days because of the actions of the fascist left.

It's right here in type, do you deny posting it?
The Socialist Internationals did operate in multiple countries.
I don't, they mirror the democrat's policies to a tee. It's why the democrats are fascists.
 
1. We don’t know who perpetrated this attack.
Yes, we do. A leftist. Probably one much like you, who hates Christianity, America, and civil rights.

2. What leftists support Northam?
Every single one who voted for him.

3. What about the much more blatant racists on the right ... Donald Trump, Jeff Sessions, Richard Spencer, Steve King, Sebastian Gorka, Stephen Miller, David Duke?
Show me some quotes, some specific policies, some documented actions to support your claim. With the exception of Duke, who is of course historically a Democrat, and a Hillary Clinton supporter.
 

EatTheRich

President
LOL hardly. In fact, states have less democratic leeway these days because of the actions of the fascist left.
Women can vote in every state now, thanks to the left. One example that blows your whole argument out of the water.

It's right here in type, do you deny posting it?
My post doesn’t mention Democrats.

I don't, they mirror the democrat's policies to a tee. It's why the democrats are fascists.
What policies, specifically, of Mussolini’s are similar to those of today’s Democrats?
 

EatTheRich

President
Yes, we do. A leftist. Probably one much like you, who hates Christianity, America, and civil rights.
You don’t know that.

Every single one who voted for him.
What evidence do you have that any leftist voted for him?

Show me some quotes, some specific policies, some documented actions to support your claim. With the exception of Duke, who is of course historically a Democrat, and a Hillary Clinton supporter.
Duke, once a far-right Democrat, now a far-right Republican, enthusiastically supported Trump based on the coincidence of their policy goals.
 

Colorforms

Senator
Women can vote in every state now, thanks to the left. One example that blows your whole argument out of the water.


My post doesn’t mention Democrats.


What policies, specifically, of Mussolini’s are similar to those of today’s Democrats?
Women can vote because they petitioned to vote, It wasn't just the left, it was church groups and volunteer organizations. Just like with unions, entire communities got together.

You're post about socialists was in regards to the DNC being a national organization. If you didn't mean democrats, then your post was senseless.

Strong centralized government, and this:

Fascist squads, militias inspired by Mussolini but often created by local leaders, swept through the countryside of the Po Valley and the Puglian plains, rounded up Socialists, burned down union and party offices, and terrorized the local population. Hundreds of radicals were humiliated, beaten, or killed. In late 1920, the Blackshirt squads, often with the direct help of landowners, began to attack local government institutions and prevent left-wing administrations from taking power. Mussolini encouraged the squads—although he soon tried to control them—and organized similar raids in and around Milan. By late 1921, the Fascists controlled large parts of Italy, and the left, in part because of its failures during the postwar years, had all but collapsed. The government, dominated by middle-class Liberals, did little to combat this lawlessness, both through weak political will and a desire to see the mainly working-class left defeated. As the Fascist movement built a broad base of support around the powerful ideas of nationalism and anti-Bolshevism, Mussolini began planning to seize power at the national level.

 

EatTheRich

President
Women can vote because they petitioned to vote, It wasn't just the left, it was church groups and volunteer organizations. Just like with unions, entire communities got together.
Communities getting together to pursue goals of liberation is definitive of leftist politics.

You're post about socialists was in regards to the DNC being a national organization. If you didn't mean democrats, then your post was senseless.
I was *contrasting* Democratic Party nationalism with socialist internationalism.

Strong centralized government
What Democrats oppose federalism?
Fascist squads, militias inspired by Mussolini but often created by local leaders, swept through the countryside of the Po Valley and the Puglian plains, rounded up Socialists, burned down union and party offices, and terrorized the local population. Hundreds of radicals were humiliated, beaten, or killed. In late 1920, the Blackshirt squads, often with the direct help of landowners, began to attack local government institutions and prevent left-wing administrations from taking power. Mussolini encouraged the squads—although he soon tried to control them—and organized similar raids in and around Milan. By late 1921, the Fascists controlled large parts of Italy, and the left, in part because of its failures during the postwar years, had all but collapsed. The government, dominated by middle-class Liberals, did little to combat this lawlessness, both through weak political will and a desire to see the mainly working-class left defeated. As the Fascist movement built a broad base of support around the powerful ideas of nationalism and anti-Bolshevism, Mussolini began planning to seize power at the national level.
Did you read this?
Rounding up socialists?
Burning down Union offices?
Working with landowners to prevent left-wing administrations from taking power?
Deriving succor from those with “a wish to see the working-class Left defeated”?

Not only is it unlike Democratic Party politics (the last part and the “anti-Bolshevism” of the Fascists aside); it is *obviously* a right-wing program.
 

Colorforms

Senator
Communities getting together to pursue goals of liberation is definitive of leftist politics.
No, it's not. Especially these days where leftists are such fascists.

I was *contrasting* Democratic Party nationalism with socialist internationalism.
Bullschitt. You were trying to say how "international" the democrats were as opposed to being a national organization. The thread is right here.

What Democrats oppose federalism?

Did you read this?
Rounding up socialists?
Burning down Union offices?
Working with landowners to prevent left-wing administrations from taking power?
Deriving succor from those with “a wish to see the working-class Left defeated”?

Not only is it unlike Democratic Party politics (the last part and the “anti-Bolshevism” of the Fascists aside); it is *obviously* a right-wing program.
LOL again, bullschitt. Lefties have literally been shooting at ICE offices, attempting to bomb illegal immigrant holding facilities, and using unions to push leftist and PC fascist politics. Leftist brown shirts literally own Portland, LA, and other democrat strongholds. They attack people at their leisure, and even you have advocated violence against those who you politically disagree with.

Democrats are the new NAZI party, and fortunately people are starting to wake up to that fact.
 

EatTheRich

President
No, it's not. Especially these days where leftists are such fascists.
We have already seen your radical twisting of the language to justify your preconceived conclusions. The fact is that the woman suffrage fight had its roots in the Socialist and Progressive movements.

Bullschitt. You were trying to say how "international" the democrats were as opposed to being a national organization. The thread is right here.
And the thread shows quite clearly that I was saying just the opposite.

LOL again, bullschitt. Lefties have literally been shooting at ICE offices, attempting to bomb illegal immigrant holding facilities
So, *resisting* strong central government the same way leftists in Hitler’s time might have attacked Gestapo offices or concentration camps. Not at all the same as the fascists’ pro-Establishment vigilantism.

and using unions to push leftist and PC fascist politics.
Quite unlike the fascists who, as your link noted, attacked unions in order to undermine left-wing politics.

Leftist brown shirts literally own Portland, LA, and other democrat strongholds.
How can that be if they are “Democrat strongholds”? If you are talking about groups like Antifa, they are violently opposed to the Democratic Party.

They attack people at their leisure, and even you have advocated violence against those who you politically disagree with.
Again, if you are talking about Antifa, they are a tiny fringe whose tactics are similar to the fascists’ and who pose the danger of facilitating the formation of a fascist nucleus, but that is distinguished from fascists by their leftist and anti-Establishment program.

I have unequivocally condemned their attacks on those who disagree with them and political thuggery in general, and have a decidedly negative view of them. You have lied about my position on factional violence many times and never been able to support your lie with links.

Democrats are the new NAZI party, and fortunately people are starting to wake up to that fact.
So why did so many neo-Nazis support Trump or Johnson in 2016, and why did so many show up to the Unite the Right rally in Charlottesville?
 
You're confused. Most racism today is coming from the left, as evidenced by this (and other recent) church burning, Joe Biden's racist attacks on the black community today and in the past, and the continued support from the left for overt racists like Ralph Northam, Louis Farrakhan, Al Sharpton, Joe Biden, and Bill and Hillary Clinton.
lol
Once again you are wrong.

"According to the Government Accountability Office of the United States, 73% of violent extremist incidents that resulted in deaths since September 12, 2001 were caused by right-wing extremist groups.[83][84]"

Includes a list. you should check it out.
 
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