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Lets hear from the man himself why that mere agreement was indeed no treaty.

God of War

Lets go Brandon!
I find this ratioinale sufficient to end an agreement. A treaty would have been a different thing of course. Did Obama include any conservatives voices in the deal making process? Did John Carrey have any kind of same side of the table opposition to the terms of the agreement being built?
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President Donald J. Trump is Ending United States Participation in an Unacceptable Iran Deal


Foreign Policy


Issued on: May 8, 2018



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The Iran Deal was one of the worst and most one-sided transactions the United States has ever entered into.



President Donald J. Trump

PROTECTING AMERICA FROM A BAD DEAL: President Donald J. Trump is terminating the United States’ participation in the Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action (JCPOA) with Iran and re-imposing sanctions lifted under the deal.
  • President Trump is terminating United States participation in the JCPOA, as it failed to protect America’s national security interests.
  • The JCPOA enriched the Iranian regime and enabled its malign behavior, while at best delaying its ability to pursue nuclear weapons and allowing it to preserve nuclear research and development.
  • The President has directed his Administration to immediately begin the process of re-imposing sanctions related to the JCPOA.
  • The re-imposed sanctions will target critical sectors of Iran’s economy, such as its energy, petrochemical, and financial sectors.
    • Those doing business in Iran will be provided a period of time to allow them to wind down operations in or business involving Iran.
  • Those who fail to wind down such activities with Iran by the end of the period will risk severe consequences.
  • United States withdrawal from the JCPOA will pressure the Iranian regime to alter its course of malign activities and ensure that Iranian bad acts are no longer rewarded. As a result, both Iran and its regional proxies will be put on notice. As importantly, this step will help ensure global funds stop flowing towards illicit terrorist and nuclear activities.
IRAN’S BAD FAITH AND BAD ACTIONS: Iran negotiated the JCPOA in bad faith, and the deal gave the Iranian regime too much in exchange for too little.
  • Intelligence recently released by Israel provides compelling details about Iran’s past secret efforts to develop nuclear weapons, which it lied about for years.
    • The intelligence further demonstrates that the Iranian regime did not come clean about its nuclear weapons activity, and that it entered the JCPOA in bad faith.
  • The JCPOA failed to deal with the threat of Iran’s missile program and did not include a strong enough mechanism for inspections and verification.
  • The JCPOA foolishly gave the Iranian regime a windfall of cash and access to the international financial system for trade and investment.
    • Instead of using the money from the JCPOA to support the Iranian people at home, the regime has instead funded a military buildup and continues to fund its terrorist proxies, such as Hizballah and Hamas.
    • Iran violated the laws and regulations of European countries to counterfeit the currency of its neighbor, Yemen, to support the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC) Quds Force’s destabilizing activities.
ADDRESSING IRANIAN AGGRESSION: President Trump is committed to ensuring Iran has no possible path to a nuclear weapon and is addressing the threats posed by the regime’s malign activities.
  • President Trump will work to assemble a broad coalition of nations to deny Iran all paths to a nuclear weapon and to counter the totality of the regime’s malign activities.
    • Nations must work together to halt the Iranian regime’s destabilizing drive for regional hegemony.
      • In Syria, the Iranian regime supports the Assad regime and is complicit in Assad’s atrocities against the Syrian people.
      • In Yemen, the regime has escalated the conflict and used the Houthis as a proxy to attack other nations.
      • In Iraq, Iran’s IRGC sponsors Shia militant groups and terrorists.
      • In Lebanon, the Iranian regime enables Hizballah to play a highly destabilizing role and to build an arsenal of weapons that threatens the region.
    • The Administration’s actions are directed against the malign behavior of the Iranian regime, not against the Iranian people, who are the regime’s longest-suffering victims.
  • President Trump is making clear that, in addition to never developing a nuclear weapon, the Iranian regime must:
    • Never have an ICBM, cease developing any nuclear-capable missiles, and stop proliferating ballistic missiles to others.
    • Cease its support for terrorists, extremists, and regional proxies, such as Hizballah, Hamas, the Taliban, and al-Qa’ida.
    • End its publicly declared quest to destroy Israel.
    • Stop its threats to freedom of navigation, especially in the Persian Gulf and Red Sea.
    • Cease escalating the Yemen conflict and destabilizing the region by proliferating weapons to the Houthis.
    • End its cyber-attacks against the United States and our allies, including Israel.
    • Stop its grievous human rights abuses, shown most recently in the regime’s crackdown against widespread protests by Iranian citizens.
    • Stop its unjust detention of foreigners, including United States citizens.

https://trumpwhitehouse.archives.gov/briefings-statements/president-donald-j-trump-ending-united-states-participation-unacceptable-iran-deal/
 

middleview

President
Supporting Member
To bad Dems made no treaty of it.
Too bad Trump cleared the way for Iran to get much closer to having a nuclear weapon with no replacement for the J5 agreement.

While you complain that Obama did not include republicans in the negotiations...notice that Trump did not include democrats in the decision to cancel it.
 

God of War

Lets go Brandon!
Trump/Trump cultist “thinking” on the international Iran deal…

Obama supported it. So tear it up.

;-)
What did the U.S. get out of the deal? A delayed nuclear tipped ICBM armed Iran? Anything else?

Care to comment, bugs?
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U.S., others agreed 'secret' exemptions for Iran after nuclear deal: think tank

By Jonathan Landay
7 Min Read

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The United States and its negotiating partners agreed “in secret” to allow Iran to evade some restrictions in last year’s landmark nuclear agreement in order to meet the deadline for it to start getting relief from economic sanctions, according to a think tank report published on Thursday.



The report, which was released by the Washington-based Institute for Science and International Security, is based on information provided by several officials of governments involved in the negotiations. The group’s president David Albright, a former U.N. weapons inspector and co-author of the report, declined to identify the officials, and Reuters could not independently verify the report’s assertions.

“The exemptions or loopholes are happening in secret, and it appears that they favor Iran,” Albright said.

(Link to the report: here)

The report ignited a chorus of Republican criticism, including from the campaign of presidential nominee Donald Trump. His campaign sought to link the findings to Trump’s Democratic opponent, Hillary Clinton, who was secretary of state when secret talks were held with Iran but had left office before formal negotiations began.

“The deeply flawed nuclear deal Hillary Clinton secretly spearheaded with Iran looks worse and worse by the day,” said a statement issued by retired Army General Michael Flynn, a top Trump adviser. “It’s now clear President Obama gave away the store to secure a weak agreement that is full of loopholes.”

The Clinton campaign did not immediately comment on the report.

The White House said it took “significant exception” to some of the report’s findings, saying that the easing of sanctions was always dependent upon Iran’s adherence to the agreement.

“The implementation date was driven by the ability of the (International Atomic Energy Agency) to verify that Iran had completed the steps that they promised to take,” White House spokesman Josh Earnest told reporters at a briefing on Thursday.

“That is what precipitated implementation day. Since then Iran has been in compliance with the agreement,” Earnest said.

Among the exemptions outlined in the think tank’s report were two that allowed Iran to exceed the deal’s limits on how much low-enriched uranium (LEU) it can keep in its nuclear facilities, the report said. LEU can be purified into highly enriched, weapons-grade uranium.

Related Coverage


White House disputes report on Iran nuclear deal exemptions

The exemptions, the report said, were approved by the joint commission the deal created to oversee implementation of the accord. The commission is comprised of the United States and its negotiating partners -- called the P5+1 -- and Iran.

One senior “knowledgeable” official was cited by the report as saying that if the joint commission had not acted to create these exemptions, some of Iran’s nuclear facilities would not have been in compliance with the deal by Jan. 16, the deadline for the beginning of the lifting of sanctions.

The U.S. administration has said that the world powers that negotiated the accord -- the United States, Russia, China, Britain, France and Germany -- made no secret arrangements.

A White House official, speaking on condition of anonymity, said the joint commission and its role were “not secret.” The official did not address the report’s assertions of exemptions.

State Department spokesman John Kirby said that Iran was not granted “exceptions” to limits on low-enriched uranium or heavy water “that would allow them to have a usable amount of material in excess of what they’re supposed to have towards the production of fissile material.”

He repeatedly declined to directly address the report’s findings on the exemptions, saying the joint commission’s work is “confidential.”

Diplomats at the United Nations for the other P5+1 countries did not respond to Reuters’ requests for comment on the report. Iranian officials were not immediately available for comment.

Albright said the exceptions risked setting precedents that Iran could use to seek additional waivers.

Albright served as an inspector with the U.N. International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) team that investigated former Iraqi President Saddam Hussein’s nuclear weapons program.

While Albright has neither endorsed nor denounced the overall agreement, he has expressed concern over what he considers potential flaws in the nuclear deal, including the expiration of key limitations on Iran’s nuclear work in 10-15 years.


An Iranian flag flutters in front of the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) headquarters in Vienna, Austria, January 15, 2016. REUTERS/Leonhard Foeger
EXEMPTIONS ON URANIUM, “HOT CELLS”

The administration of President Barack Obama informed Congress of the exemptions on Jan. 16, said the report. Albright said the exemptions, which have not been made public, were detailed in confidential documents sent to Capitol Hill that day -- after the exemptions had already been granted.

The White House official said the administration had briefed Congress “frequently and comprehensively” on the joint commission’s work.

Democratic Senator Robert Menendez, a leading critic of the Iran deal and a senior member of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, told Reuters in an email: “I was not aware nor did I receive any briefing (on the exemptions).”

As part of the concessions that allowed Iran to exceed uranium limits, the joint commission agreed to exempt unknown quantities of 3.5 percent LEU contained in liquid, solid and sludge wastes stored at Iranian nuclear facilities, according to the report. The agreement restricts Iran to stockpiling only 300 kg of 3.5 percent LEU.

The commission approved a second exemption for an unknown quantity of near 20 percent LEU in “lab contaminant” that was determined to be unrecoverable, the report said. The nuclear agreement requires Iran to fabricate all such LEU into research reactor fuel.

If the total amount of excess LEU Iran possesses is unknown, it is impossible to know how much weapons-grade uranium it could yield, experts said.

The draft report said the joint commission also agreed to allow Iran to keep operating 19 radiation containment chambers larger than the accord set. These so-called “hot cells” are used for handling radioactive material but can be “misused for secret, mostly small-scale plutonium separation efforts,” said the report. Plutonium is another nuclear weapons fuel.

The deal allowed Iran to meet a 130-tonne limit on heavy water produced at its Arak facility by selling its excess stock on the open market. But with no buyer available, the joint commission helped Tehran meet the sanctions relief deadline by allowing it to send 50 tonnes of the material -- which can be used in nuclear weapons production -- to Oman, where it was stored under Iranian control, the report said.

The shipment to Oman of the heavy water that can be used in nuclear weapons production has already been reported. Albright’s report made the new assertion that the joint committee had approved this concession.
 

God of War

Lets go Brandon!
Too bad Trump cleared the way for Iran to get much closer to having a nuclear weapon with no replacement for the J5 agreement.
Well, conspiracy theory Dems should have left Trump in office to deal with Iran.

While you complain that Obama did not include republicans in the negotiations...notice that Trump did not include democrats in the decision to cancel it.
Why should he have? You cheated an election. Are you saying that now conservatives can't? Dems blow Senate rules left and right and complain when Reps do the same. ha ha
 

middleview

President
Supporting Member
Trump/Trump cultist “thinking” on the international Iran deal…

Obama supported it. So tear it up.

;-)
Now Israel estimates Iran is weeks away from sufficient material to build a bomb....

How anyone can avoid blaming Trump is beyond me.
 

Bugsy McGurk

President
What did the U.S. get out of the deal? A delayed nuclear tipped ICBM armed Iran? Anything else?

Care to comment, bugs?
=============================




U.S., others agreed 'secret' exemptions for Iran after nuclear deal: think tank

By Jonathan Landay
7 Min Read

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The United States and its negotiating partners agreed “in secret” to allow Iran to evade some restrictions in last year’s landmark nuclear agreement in order to meet the deadline for it to start getting relief from economic sanctions, according to a think tank report published on Thursday.



The report, which was released by the Washington-based Institute for Science and International Security, is based on information provided by several officials of governments involved in the negotiations. The group’s president David Albright, a former U.N. weapons inspector and co-author of the report, declined to identify the officials, and Reuters could not independently verify the report’s assertions.

“The exemptions or loopholes are happening in secret, and it appears that they favor Iran,” Albright said.

(Link to the report: here)

The report ignited a chorus of Republican criticism, including from the campaign of presidential nominee Donald Trump. His campaign sought to link the findings to Trump’s Democratic opponent, Hillary Clinton, who was secretary of state when secret talks were held with Iran but had left office before formal negotiations began.

“The deeply flawed nuclear deal Hillary Clinton secretly spearheaded with Iran looks worse and worse by the day,” said a statement issued by retired Army General Michael Flynn, a top Trump adviser. “It’s now clear President Obama gave away the store to secure a weak agreement that is full of loopholes.”

The Clinton campaign did not immediately comment on the report.

The White House said it took “significant exception” to some of the report’s findings, saying that the easing of sanctions was always dependent upon Iran’s adherence to the agreement.

“The implementation date was driven by the ability of the (International Atomic Energy Agency) to verify that Iran had completed the steps that they promised to take,” White House spokesman Josh Earnest told reporters at a briefing on Thursday.

“That is what precipitated implementation day. Since then Iran has been in compliance with the agreement,” Earnest said.

Among the exemptions outlined in the think tank’s report were two that allowed Iran to exceed the deal’s limits on how much low-enriched uranium (LEU) it can keep in its nuclear facilities, the report said. LEU can be purified into highly enriched, weapons-grade uranium.

Related Coverage
White House disputes report on Iran nuclear deal exemptions
The exemptions, the report said, were approved by the joint commission the deal created to oversee implementation of the accord. The commission is comprised of the United States and its negotiating partners -- called the P5+1 -- and Iran.

One senior “knowledgeable” official was cited by the report as saying that if the joint commission had not acted to create these exemptions, some of Iran’s nuclear facilities would not have been in compliance with the deal by Jan. 16, the deadline for the beginning of the lifting of sanctions.

The U.S. administration has said that the world powers that negotiated the accord -- the United States, Russia, China, Britain, France and Germany -- made no secret arrangements.

A White House official, speaking on condition of anonymity, said the joint commission and its role were “not secret.” The official did not address the report’s assertions of exemptions.

State Department spokesman John Kirby said that Iran was not granted “exceptions” to limits on low-enriched uranium or heavy water “that would allow them to have a usable amount of material in excess of what they’re supposed to have towards the production of fissile material.”

He repeatedly declined to directly address the report’s findings on the exemptions, saying the joint commission’s work is “confidential.”

Diplomats at the United Nations for the other P5+1 countries did not respond to Reuters’ requests for comment on the report. Iranian officials were not immediately available for comment.

Albright said the exceptions risked setting precedents that Iran could use to seek additional waivers.

Albright served as an inspector with the U.N. International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) team that investigated former Iraqi President Saddam Hussein’s nuclear weapons program.

While Albright has neither endorsed nor denounced the overall agreement, he has expressed concern over what he considers potential flaws in the nuclear deal, including the expiration of key limitations on Iran’s nuclear work in 10-15 years.


An Iranian flag flutters in front of the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) headquarters in Vienna, Austria, January 15, 2016. REUTERS/Leonhard Foeger
EXEMPTIONS ON URANIUM, “HOT CELLS”

The administration of President Barack Obama informed Congress of the exemptions on Jan. 16, said the report. Albright said the exemptions, which have not been made public, were detailed in confidential documents sent to Capitol Hill that day -- after the exemptions had already been granted.

The White House official said the administration had briefed Congress “frequently and comprehensively” on the joint commission’s work.

Democratic Senator Robert Menendez, a leading critic of the Iran deal and a senior member of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, told Reuters in an email: “I was not aware nor did I receive any briefing (on the exemptions).”

As part of the concessions that allowed Iran to exceed uranium limits, the joint commission agreed to exempt unknown quantities of 3.5 percent LEU contained in liquid, solid and sludge wastes stored at Iranian nuclear facilities, according to the report. The agreement restricts Iran to stockpiling only 300 kg of 3.5 percent LEU.

The commission approved a second exemption for an unknown quantity of near 20 percent LEU in “lab contaminant” that was determined to be unrecoverable, the report said. The nuclear agreement requires Iran to fabricate all such LEU into research reactor fuel.

If the total amount of excess LEU Iran possesses is unknown, it is impossible to know how much weapons-grade uranium it could yield, experts said.

The draft report said the joint commission also agreed to allow Iran to keep operating 19 radiation containment chambers larger than the accord set. These so-called “hot cells” are used for handling radioactive material but can be “misused for secret, mostly small-scale plutonium separation efforts,” said the report. Plutonium is another nuclear weapons fuel.

The deal allowed Iran to meet a 130-tonne limit on heavy water produced at its Arak facility by selling its excess stock on the open market. But with no buyer available, the joint commission helped Tehran meet the sanctions relief deadline by allowing it to send 50 tonnes of the material -- which can be used in nuclear weapons production -- to Oman, where it was stored under Iranian control, the report said.

The shipment to Oman of the heavy water that can be used in nuclear weapons production has already been reported. Albright’s report made the new assertion that the joint committee had approved this concession.
We got nothing out of it. Trump tore it up.

Pay attention.
 

Bugsy McGurk

President
Now Israel estimates Iran is weeks away from sufficient material to build a bomb....

How anyone can avoid blaming Trump is beyond me.
Trump/GOP cultists hate facts. They hate reality. Reality just doesn’t square with right wing ideology. So they ignore it.
 

middleview

President
Supporting Member
What did the U.S. get out of the deal? A delayed nuclear tipped ICBM armed Iran? Anything else?

Care to comment, bugs?
=============================




U.S., others agreed 'secret' exemptions for Iran after nuclear deal: think tank

By Jonathan Landay
7 Min Read

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The United States and its negotiating partners agreed “in secret” to allow Iran to evade some restrictions in last year’s landmark nuclear agreement in order to meet the deadline for it to start getting relief from economic sanctions, according to a think tank report published on Thursday.



The report, which was released by the Washington-based Institute for Science and International Security, is based on information provided by several officials of governments involved in the negotiations. The group’s president David Albright, a former U.N. weapons inspector and co-author of the report, declined to identify the officials, and Reuters could not independently verify the report’s assertions.

“The exemptions or loopholes are happening in secret, and it appears that they favor Iran,” Albright said.

(Link to the report: here)

The report ignited a chorus of Republican criticism, including from the campaign of presidential nominee Donald Trump. His campaign sought to link the findings to Trump’s Democratic opponent, Hillary Clinton, who was secretary of state when secret talks were held with Iran but had left office before formal negotiations began.

“The deeply flawed nuclear deal Hillary Clinton secretly spearheaded with Iran looks worse and worse by the day,” said a statement issued by retired Army General Michael Flynn, a top Trump adviser. “It’s now clear President Obama gave away the store to secure a weak agreement that is full of loopholes.”

The Clinton campaign did not immediately comment on the report.

The White House said it took “significant exception” to some of the report’s findings, saying that the easing of sanctions was always dependent upon Iran’s adherence to the agreement.

“The implementation date was driven by the ability of the (International Atomic Energy Agency) to verify that Iran had completed the steps that they promised to take,” White House spokesman Josh Earnest told reporters at a briefing on Thursday.

“That is what precipitated implementation day. Since then Iran has been in compliance with the agreement,” Earnest said.

Among the exemptions outlined in the think tank’s report were two that allowed Iran to exceed the deal’s limits on how much low-enriched uranium (LEU) it can keep in its nuclear facilities, the report said. LEU can be purified into highly enriched, weapons-grade uranium.

Related Coverage
White House disputes report on Iran nuclear deal exemptions
The exemptions, the report said, were approved by the joint commission the deal created to oversee implementation of the accord. The commission is comprised of the United States and its negotiating partners -- called the P5+1 -- and Iran.

One senior “knowledgeable” official was cited by the report as saying that if the joint commission had not acted to create these exemptions, some of Iran’s nuclear facilities would not have been in compliance with the deal by Jan. 16, the deadline for the beginning of the lifting of sanctions.

The U.S. administration has said that the world powers that negotiated the accord -- the United States, Russia, China, Britain, France and Germany -- made no secret arrangements.

A White House official, speaking on condition of anonymity, said the joint commission and its role were “not secret.” The official did not address the report’s assertions of exemptions.

State Department spokesman John Kirby said that Iran was not granted “exceptions” to limits on low-enriched uranium or heavy water “that would allow them to have a usable amount of material in excess of what they’re supposed to have towards the production of fissile material.”

He repeatedly declined to directly address the report’s findings on the exemptions, saying the joint commission’s work is “confidential.”

Diplomats at the United Nations for the other P5+1 countries did not respond to Reuters’ requests for comment on the report. Iranian officials were not immediately available for comment.

Albright said the exceptions risked setting precedents that Iran could use to seek additional waivers.

Albright served as an inspector with the U.N. International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) team that investigated former Iraqi President Saddam Hussein’s nuclear weapons program.

While Albright has neither endorsed nor denounced the overall agreement, he has expressed concern over what he considers potential flaws in the nuclear deal, including the expiration of key limitations on Iran’s nuclear work in 10-15 years.


An Iranian flag flutters in front of the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) headquarters in Vienna, Austria, January 15, 2016. REUTERS/Leonhard Foeger
EXEMPTIONS ON URANIUM, “HOT CELLS”

The administration of President Barack Obama informed Congress of the exemptions on Jan. 16, said the report. Albright said the exemptions, which have not been made public, were detailed in confidential documents sent to Capitol Hill that day -- after the exemptions had already been granted.

The White House official said the administration had briefed Congress “frequently and comprehensively” on the joint commission’s work.

Democratic Senator Robert Menendez, a leading critic of the Iran deal and a senior member of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, told Reuters in an email: “I was not aware nor did I receive any briefing (on the exemptions).”

As part of the concessions that allowed Iran to exceed uranium limits, the joint commission agreed to exempt unknown quantities of 3.5 percent LEU contained in liquid, solid and sludge wastes stored at Iranian nuclear facilities, according to the report. The agreement restricts Iran to stockpiling only 300 kg of 3.5 percent LEU.

The commission approved a second exemption for an unknown quantity of near 20 percent LEU in “lab contaminant” that was determined to be unrecoverable, the report said. The nuclear agreement requires Iran to fabricate all such LEU into research reactor fuel.

If the total amount of excess LEU Iran possesses is unknown, it is impossible to know how much weapons-grade uranium it could yield, experts said.

The draft report said the joint commission also agreed to allow Iran to keep operating 19 radiation containment chambers larger than the accord set. These so-called “hot cells” are used for handling radioactive material but can be “misused for secret, mostly small-scale plutonium separation efforts,” said the report. Plutonium is another nuclear weapons fuel.

The deal allowed Iran to meet a 130-tonne limit on heavy water produced at its Arak facility by selling its excess stock on the open market. But with no buyer available, the joint commission helped Tehran meet the sanctions relief deadline by allowing it to send 50 tonnes of the material -- which can be used in nuclear weapons production -- to Oman, where it was stored under Iranian control, the report said.

The shipment to Oman of the heavy water that can be used in nuclear weapons production has already been reported. Albright’s report made the new assertion that the joint committee had approved this concession.
Secret, but Congress was informed of the changes to allow time for Iran to comply.

Meanwhile, what damage was done? 3.5% enrichment is nowhere near what is needed for a weapon and allowing them leeway on the 300kg isn't a disaster in itself.
How much over the limit? Did you know what is required to be weapons grade? That would be about 90% enriched.
 
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God of War

Lets go Brandon!
Secret, but Congress was informed of the changes to allow time for Iran to comply.

Meanwhile, what damage was done? 3.5% enrichment is nowhere near what is needed for a weapon and allowing them leeway on the 300kg isn't a disaster in itself.
How much over the limit? Did you know what is required to be weapons grade? That would be about 90% enriched.
Should have been a treaty.
 

God of War

Lets go Brandon!
Trump should have acted to improve it....now we have Iran on the edge of having a nuclear weapon. What a douche!
Aren't you going to ask me how to fix it like @Bugsy McGurk does all the time?

Trump: "You have to test your nuclear bombs to know if they work Iran and you can't do it so we can't see it. When you test your bomb. YOU will have declared war and we will begin nuclear strikes against these four targets and will continue with four more targets every four hours until you unconditionally surrender. Or you give up your nuclear program for anything possibly with military purposes AND you cease all your terrorist sponsorship and acts world wide."
 

God of War

Lets go Brandon!
Really? I thought Trump was the master of negotiation...why not offer a few thousand missiles? Worked for Reagan.
What the hell are you talking about? You sound unhinged. Crawl back down off the ledge and give Trump a call. Ask him what he would have done if you lefties hadn't cheated him out of four more years.
 

middleview

President
Supporting Member
What the hell are you talking about? You sound unhinged. Crawl back down off the ledge and give Trump a call. Ask him what he would have done if you lefties hadn't cheated him out of four more years.
1. Reagan sold thousands of missiles to Iran...did you sleep through Iran/Contra?
2. You ask what did Trump have to negotiate with. He clearly could have threatened withdrawal without some additional requirements....before he reinstated sanctions. He didn't. He was playing to his base. Clearly not in the interest of preventing Iran's nuclear program.
 

God of War

Lets go Brandon!
1. Reagan sold thousands of missiles to Iran...did you sleep through Iran/Contra?
2. You ask what did Trump have to negotiate with. He clearly could have threatened withdrawal without some additional requirements....before he reinstated sanctions. He didn't. He was playing to his base. Clearly not in the interest of preventing Iran's nuclear program.
1. Thousands?
2. Israel?

3. I'm glad Iran-Contra stopped communism from spreading in Latin America as much as it did. The Democrats of the day were moral cowards not to send U.S. troops to end Cuban-Soviet machinations in our hemisphere. Now that the CCP has moved in that lull was wasted.
 
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