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Liz Cheney, Last of the Mohicans

middleview

President
Supporting Member
Since when did the Russian collusion bangers need proof of anything? I think the FACTS that certain Democrats unilaterally changed election laws in swing states to boost Biden's chances and that Dems worked hand in glove(aka "collusion") with big tech to suppress anti-Biden stories while pushing anti-Trump stories (many of the anti-Trump stories which were completely fraudulent) would certainly be much stronger "proof" than anything ever on Russian collusion, no?
Your version of how Trump lost is entertaining, but just a few beers short of a sixpack.
He lost by over 7 million votes. Do you honestly think 81.2 million people voted for Biden because they could vote by mail, vote early, drop off their ballots at drop boxes?
Would they have stayed home if not for the added convenience?

Who changed election laws to boost Biden's chances? Remember that it was the republican legislature in Pa that changed the rules in 2019...did it specifically help Biden to let more people vote by mail? Was that their intent or was it simply an unintended consequence of more people voting? Did early voting help Biden and no early voters voted for Trump? Doesn't look like it.

Did "big tech", meaning Facebook or Twitter actually carry the news? What anti-Biden stories would have helped Trump win?

The investigation into Russian collusion was justified because it was evident that the Russians broke the law and it is clear that they did so to benefit Trump's campaign.
The investigation determined that there was insufficient evidence that the dozens of meetings and contacts with the Russians offered a quid pro quo. I'd think you'd actually be happy that essentially they cleared Trump of collusion.
 

middleview

President
Supporting Member
Russian collusion never made sense. It was propagated by the stupid.....for YEARS. And they are the ones trying to screech the loudest about claims of election illegitimacy. Getting it now?
The Russians hacked the DNC email server and released email through Wikileaks.
Trump had a guy who bragged he was an advisor to the Kremlin as his advisor. His advisor met with the Russian deputy prime minister and a couple of Putin cronies.
The Russians engaged numerous Facebook or Twitter accounts to push support for Trump. The Russian ambassador attended the RNC convention and met with Trump campaign people. There were dozens of meetings with Russian officials or friends of Vlad.

The investigation was justified.

Now we have people like you screeching about an illegitimate election, but just can't quite come up with a leg to stand on...so you guys make shit up.

Wisconsin, Michigan, Pa, Arizona and Georgia all certified their elections...and with two of the states having republicans running the election that seems all the more ridiculous.
The elections were challenged in 60 lawsuits and were all tossed out. Did it really make sense to you that the AG of Texas would be allowed to sue Pennsylvania to overturn their election? Did it make sense to you that Trump would call the republican secretary of state in Georgia to ask him to find 11,000 votes?
 

middleview

President
Supporting Member
You mean the one who actually died of natural causes?

Officer Brian Sicknick died of natural causes after Capitol riot, medical examiner says - CBS News

You are still a f*cking joke I see! Nothing ever changes here, does it? You're still full of shit and I am back to pointing it out (again and again and again).
So you now want to push the Trump party line that rioters were greeted with hugs by the cops? You have no problem with [Unwelcome language removed] using bear spray on the police officers? Were those just love taps from the guy beating the shit out of a cop on the steps of the building after they'd dragged him out of the doorway?


New bodycam footage shows Capitol rioters cheer after DC cop assault


New video shows Capitol rioters dragging a DC police officer and beating him with an American flag

 

Mick

The Right is always right
Your version of how Trump lost is entertaining, but just a few beers short of a sixpack.
He lost by over 7 million votes. Do you honestly think 81.2 million people voted for Biden because they could vote by mail, vote early, drop off their ballots at drop boxes?
Would they have stayed home if not for the added convenience?
Speaking of being a few beers short, after not knowing that hospitals are used for treating sick patients instead of being holding chambers for healthy, covid positive patients you now believe the Presidential election is determined by popular vote? The fact is Trump lost by about 40,000 total votes in 3 swing states. The margin was razor thin.

At some point don't you get tired of posting the most completely asinine, stupid shit ever known to man? Good God, man.

Who changed election laws to boost Biden's chances?
We've been over this. One such example:

Michigan judge rules secretary of state violated election law by unilaterally changing absentee voting rules | Washington Examiner

if you pretend to be the utterly most ignorant individual on the planet do you think that helps your cause?



The investigation into Russian collusion was justified because it was evident that the Russians broke the law and it is clear that they did so to benefit Trump's campaign.
The investigation determined that there was insufficient evidence that the dozens of meetings and contacts with the Russians offered a quid pro quo. I'd think you'd actually be happy that essentially they cleared Trump of collusion.
I don't give a shit what Russia was doing. Countries have been trying to meddle in foreign elections for hundreds of years. We do it, too. The fact is there was no collusion and they ALL knew that from the start. THis is known by Strok's texts, the IG report, Rosenstein's testimony....among 100s of other sources. They pushed the hoax.....and still to this day call Trump's win illegitimate. Same people crying about the 2020 illegitimacy claims. Defending stupid, debunked shit is your forte......move on and stop embarrassing yourself for once.
 
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Mick

The Right is always right
So you now want to push the Trump party line that rioters were greeted with hugs by the cops? You have no problem with [Unwelcome language removed] using bear spray on the police officers? Were those just love taps from the guy beating the shit out of a cop on the steps of the building after they'd dragged him out of the doorway?


New bodycam footage shows Capitol rioters cheer after DC cop assault


New video shows Capitol rioters dragging a DC police officer and beating him with an American flag

The only Capitol cop murdered in DC this year was one by an Obama, Farrkahan adherent racist. Bet that fact makes you gleeful, huh?
 

Mick

The Right is always right
Try making sense for once. Your analogy to Russian collusion is too muddled in bullshit to be even the slightest bit comprehensible.
There is no "analogy". There is only hypocrisy. The ones crying the most about people not accepting the legitimacy of the 2020 election are the ones who screeched the most about Russian collusion and called the 2016 election illegitimate. Their cries are hollow and worthless.
 
There is no "analogy". There is only hypocrisy. The ones crying the most about people not accepting the legitimacy of the 2020 election are the ones who screeched the most about Russian collusion and called the 2016 election illegitimate. Their cries are hollow and worthless.
AHHHHH. So you are using a Strawman wrapped in a Tu Quoque. It's like all the logical Fallacies wrapped into a giant logical fallacious argument.
 

Mick

The Right is always right
AHHHHH. So you are using a Strawman wrapped in a Tu Quoque. It's like all the logical Fallacies wrapped into a giant logical fallacious argument.
There is nothing "fallacious" with calling Russian collusion a hoax. It was.

There is nothing "fallacious" with saying the people yapping now helped pushed that hoax the hardest and they are they are the ones screaming the loudest that 2020 must be accepted. They do.

There is nothing "fallacious" with saying that is completely hypocritical and moronic. It is.

Move on. I think your Mom has dinner ready, doesn't she?
 

Bugsy McGurk

President
The repetitive autism strikes again! Yikes!

Like I said, this is discussed in the Mueller report. Apparently you aren't literate enough to read it because you keep directly contradicting the facts it laid out.

:)
I get a kick out of forcing you to lamely dodge questions.

Is that so wrong?

;-)
 

Mick

The Right is always right
Yapping the loudest about what
As an elected Republican leader in the House where was her yapping when the NY Times broke the phony story there were bounties on U.S. troops by Russia and Trump ignored it? Instead of doing he duty as a GOP leader and calling out the NY Times for fake stories with anonymous sources that were simply being used to attack a GOP President during campaign season she instead chose to side with Democrats over the hoax and "demanded answers". There was one answer. It was made up and intended to be used to take Trump down. She was direlict in her duties.

Where was she when the Atlantic posted the phony story, once again sourced to anonymous sources, that President Trump called troops suckers and losers? As a GOP leader it was her responsibility to speak up and condemn such lies and attacks. She said nothing.

Where was she for years when the Dems pushed the Russian collusion hoax and 2016 election illegitimacy? Shouldn't she have been outraged over that? Instead she sat mostly silent on the issue....and only finally put out a written statement after the Mueller report came out that said "we knew it all along". Nice. She should have been pounding the hell out of Democrats over that as long as they pushed it. She was mostly awol while it was other Republicans, like Elise Stefanik, who came to the President's defense against such ridiculous and partisan lies. Look where the two stand now as a result. You think that is coincidence?

You have no stake, phil. Get off your high horse.
 

Bugsy McGurk

President
There is nothing "fallacious" with calling Russian collusion a hoax. It was.

There is nothing "fallacious" with saying the people yapping now helped pushed that hoax the hardest and they are they are the ones screaming the loudest that 2020 must be accepted. They do.

There is nothing "fallacious" with saying that is completely hypocritical and moronic. It is.

Move on. I think your Mom has dinner ready, doesn't she?
Said the lame dodger, as he lamely dodged questions about the Russian collusion.

;-)
 
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