It wasn't when I read it. It is now. Probably based on the number of times accessed. Meanwhile, where is your source?
McCarthy's statement on Biden
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Sickofleft
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Are you claiming Burisma has a licensing agreement with the Biden's?
What do the Biden's do?
As for your bullshit about Turkey, it would have been much better to have our forces in the middle of the different Kurdish groups to keep them from killing one another.
Sound plan, speaking of which when do you ship out to the Ukraine?
Trump Twists Facts on Biden and Ukraine - FactCheck.org
President Donald Trump once again twisted the facts to claim that Joe Biden, as vice president, threatened to withhold "billions of dollars to Ukraine" unless it removed the prosecutor general who "was prosecuting" Biden's son, Hunter.
www.factcheck.org
Bullshit story? Erdogan and Trump have an hour long phone call...our troops are ordered out the naxt day...air strikes against the Kurds shortly after...
Late on Sunday night, the Trump administration announced its decision to not interfere with a planned Turkish military campaign into northern Syria, leaving American-allied Kurdish forces vulnerable to a regime in Turkey that considers them a terrorist group. The news astonished foreign policy experts, drew criticism from Republican lawmakers, and even prompted the dependable White House cheerleaders at Fox & Friends to engage in some awkward on-air bickering. "What kind of message is that to the next ally that wants to side with us?" asked Brian Kilmeade to his co-hosts. "Now we say, 'Good luck. Good luck surviving.'"
On Monday, Turkey began its invasion of Syria in earnest, launching a series of airstrikes against a group that been protected by the United States armed forces less than 24 hours earlier. The Trump administration's decision will almost certainly prolong the Syrian Civil War, and may allow the same Islamic State terrorists that American troops spent years fighting to regain a foothold in the war-torn region.
Why Trump Abandoned the Kurds, Explained | GQ
Bugsy McGurk
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It’s always mind-boggling when wingers concoct their bullshit stories out of thin air.Trump Twists Facts on Biden and Ukraine - FactCheck.org
President Donald Trump once again twisted the facts to claim that Joe Biden, as vice president, threatened to withhold "billions of dollars to Ukraine" unless it removed the prosecutor general who "was prosecuting" Biden's son, Hunter.
All Biden did was PUBLICLY repeat the widely stated public position of the US, which was in accord with international consensus, regarding that crooked Ukraine prosecutor. No matter. The Republican liars claim it was some evil, surreptitious Biden plot. Completely concocted winger bullshit.
Raoul_Luke
I feel a bit lightheaded. Maybe you should drive.
Fact check fail.Trump Twists Facts on Biden and Ukraine - FactCheck.org
President Donald Trump once again twisted the facts to claim that Joe Biden, as vice president, threatened to withhold "billions of dollars to Ukraine" unless it removed the prosecutor general who "was prosecuting" Biden's son, Hunter.
The President: Good because I heard you had a prosecutor who was very good and he was shut down and that’s really unfair. A lot of people are talking about that, the way they shut your very good prosecutor down and you had some very bad people involved. Mr. Giuliani is a highly respected man. He was the mayor of New York City, a great mayor, and I would like him to call you. I will ask him to call you along with the Attorney General. Rudy very much knows what’s happening and he is a very capable guy. If you could speak to him that would be great. The former ambassador from the United States, the woman, was bad news and the people she was dealing with in the Ukraine were bad news so I just want to let you know that. The other thing, There’s a lot of talk about Biden’s son, that Biden stopped the prosecution and a lot of people want to find out about that so whatever you can do with the Attorney General would be great. Biden went around bragging that he stopped the prosecution so if you can look into it… It sounds horrible to me.
Read the transcript of Trump's conversation with Volodymyr Zelensky | CNN Politics
Where does he say Shokin was after Hunter? He wanted Zelenskyy to investigate the Biden's role in Shokin's dismissal. To the extent he added Hunter in when he was speaking about the matter on September 22nd, I guess that was a bit of wishful thinking. It doesn't change the facts in case. But it does give you an angle to demagogue the issue.
Raoul_Luke
I feel a bit lightheaded. Maybe you should drive.
I have no idea what your point is....What "fact check" do you think has failed. The fact is that the IMF threatened a hold on a $40 billion loan and after Shokin was removed the loan went through.
From the link I provided you:
In reporting on Kasko’s resignation, Reuters noted that Ukraine’s “failure to tackle endemic corruption” threatened the IMF’s $40 billion aid program for Ukraine. At the time, the IMF put a hold on $1.7 billion in aid that had been due to be released to Ukraine four months earlier.
“After President Poroshenko complained that Shokin was taking too long to clean up corruption even within the PGO itself, he asked for Shokin’s resignation,” the CRS report said. Shokin submitted his resignation in February 2016 and was removed a month later.
Michael McFaul, a former U.S. ambassador to Russia under President Barack Obama, on Sept. 20 tweeted that the “Obama administration policy (not just ‘Biden policy’) to push for this Ukrainian general prosecutor to go” was “a shared view in many capitals, multilateral lending institutions, and pro-democratic Ukrainian civil society.”
Raoul_Luke
I feel a bit lightheaded. Maybe you should drive.
It says right in your quoted report:
Reuters noted that Ukraine’s “failure to tackle endemic corruption” threatened the IMF’s $40 billion aid program for Ukraine.
Then it says Poroshenko "complained that Shokin was taking too long." As far as the EU was concerned, SHokin was doing okay:
The European Commission praised Ukraine’s Prosecutor-General Viktor Shokin for his efforts to fight corruption in a December 2015 progress report published nine days after then-VP Joe Biden demanded his ouster.
The report flies in the face of Biden’s claims that the European Union joined his demands that Shokin be removed for being corrupt and obstructing anti-corruption reforms.
In fact, the Dec. 18, 2015, progress report, obtained by the New York Post, says that the European Union was satisfied that Ukraine had achieved “noteworthy” progress, including in “preventing and fighting corruption,” and thus was eligible for visa-free travel in Europe.
The European Commission noted that Shokin had just appointed the head of a specialized anti-corruption prosecution office, which it described as “an indispensable component of an effective and independent institutional framework for combating high-level corruption.”
The new office would help the newly established National Anti-Corruption Bureau combat corruption, the report noted, and urged Ukrainian leadership to ensure that both bodies were “fully operational” by the first quarter of 2016.
But Shokin was gone by March 29, 2016, forced out by Biden’s threats to then-Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko that he would withhold $1 billion in US aid unless the prosecutor general was fired.
Despite Biden's claim, Europeans WEREN'T trying to oust Ukraine prosecutor targeting Hunter's firm (nypost.com)
Even Obama Administration officials said he was pretty good:
State Department officials and other U.S. government officials supported the anti-corruption efforts of Ukrainian prosecutor Viktor Shokin before then-Vice President Joe Biden pressured Ukraine into getting Shokin fired, newly released documents show.
U.S. officials believed Shokin was working to combat corruption in late 2015 and early 2016, despite assertions from Joe Biden that he pressured Ukraine into removing Shokin because of concerns about corruption, according to internal memos obtained by Just the News.
US Officials Were ‘Impressed’ By Prosecutor Joe Biden Got Fired, New Revelations Show | The Daily Caller
I get that you ignore news accounts that don't support the democrat party narrative, but the facts that have come out since they tried to run that propaganda in defense of Biden pretty much obliterate your case.
Biden called for Shokin's dismissal December 4th, 2015. That was long before Shokin decided to seize assets belonging to Zlochevsky. Looks like the seizure was retaliation to me.
So why didn't the Trump DOJ announce an investigation into Joe demanding Shokin's ouster? Trump knew that it would look like he was politicizing the DOJ....so instead he decided to politicize the Ukrainian prosecutors office.
Why did these congressmen send a letter to Ukraine in February 2016 demanding reform in the prosecutor's office?
Republican senators echoed Biden in urging Ukrainian president to reform prosecutor general’s office
Republican senators echoed Biden in urging Ukrainian president to reform prosecutor general's office | CNN Politics
Viktor Shokin: The inside story on Ukraine’s ‘very good’ prosecutor at centre of Trump scandal
In an affidavit, submitted in September in an unconnected extradition case involving oligarch Dmytro Firtash, the former prosecutor said he had been dismissed because he refused to heed the advice of then-President Petro Poroshenko to drop an investigation.
“I was forced out because … I was leading a wide-ranging corruption probe into Burisma Holdings, where Hunter Biden was a member of the board,” the statement reads.
“Neither Shokin nor Poroshenko wanted to investigate [Burisma owner Mykola] Zlochevsky,” says Sakvarelidze. “They simply began a criminal case, arrested a few assets, and began negotiating with the corruptioneer for a bribe.”
Viktor Shokin: The inside story on Ukraine’s ‘very good’ prosecutor at centre of Trump scandal | The Independent | The Independent
This is from the FT article. On a different computer I could by pass the pay wall..
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From your link
Rule of Law (prosecutor general’s office) – but with a preference to revise the CP to better ensure that the decision to set up an independent inspector general cannot be easily overturned and that the independent inspector general is subject to appropriate oversight and accountability
The memo that you think shows Shokin doing a good job is calling for a reform of his office.
Raoul_Luke
I feel a bit lightheaded. Maybe you should drive.
Where did it say he needed to go? He was actually implementing reforms. From the NYP article:
The European Commission noted that Shokin had just appointed the head of a specialized anti-corruption prosecution office, which it described as “an indispensable component of an effective and independent institutional framework for combating high-level corruption.”
The new office would help the newly established National Anti-Corruption Bureau combat corruption, the report noted, and urged Ukrainian leadership to ensure that both bodies were “fully operational” by the first quarter of 2016.
Raoul_Luke
I feel a bit lightheaded. Maybe you should drive.
So it was basically Christine Legarde (maybe). You know what is funny? A search of that specific quote only returns the FT atricle:
Christine Lagarde "Poroshenko will have to come up with something very meaningful" - Search (bing.com)
What's funnier is that the quote in your pic says, after "perhaps even a change in the much maligned prosecutor's office" HE said. Last time I checked, Legarde is a "she." So who actually said that, because it seems like an unattributed quote injected for some reason to make it look like Legarde was after Shokin. I smell a rat!
The EU (as I demonstrated) thought Shokin was okay, and even Obama administration officials were praising him right up until Biden engineered his ouster. You got anything besides that weird FT article to back up your claims here?
You keep talking about the EU as if the IMF were not already threatening a hold on a $40 billion loan. The appointment of a new head of the agency doesn't mean shit. Shokin also appointed his chauffeur to prosecutor...where he stole hundreds of thousands of dollars from business men and may have had a jeweler murdered for ratting him out.
Look up the diamond scandal.
Yes. How about the letter from Congressmen? I searched IMF ukraine loan hold and found quite a few sources. Try it.
Your other links do not praise Shokin...as much as you wish they did. You continue to ignore the diamond scandal.
IMF Demand For Ukraine Reform Just Latest Red Flag For Poroshenko
Anticorruption campaigners point to the controversial appointment in February 2014, at the height of the Euromaidan furor, of sexagenarian Prosecutor-General Viktor Shokin.
Poroshenko has ignored repeated calls to sack Shokin, including from more than 100 members of parliament.
IMF Demand For Ukraine Reform Just Latest Red Flag For Poroshenko
The head of the International Monetary Fund's blunt criticism of Ukraine marks a new low point for a beleaguered administration in Kyiv's efforts to battle corruption.
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Raoul_Luke
I feel a bit lightheaded. Maybe you should drive.
I did - and found out Shokin dismissed both the assistant prosecutors implicated immediately. They were then let off by Shokin's SUCCESSOR:
In January of 2016, the court dismissed both the “Diamond Prosecutors” on bail. Then, in July, former deputy of the Prosecutor General, Vitaliy Kaso, announced the withdrawal of the seizure of Korniets’ assets. Subsequently, Yuri Lutsenko announced the Office of the Prosecutor General will soon appeal this in addition to filing another case against the “Diamond Prosecutors” to the court. On August 15, the court has again postponed the meeting on the case of the “Diamond Prosecutors” for another week.
Prosecutor Genius of Ukraine: First 100 days | UACRISIS.ORG
You are forgetting that Shokin was praised BY OFFICIALS OF THE OBAMA ADMINISTRATION for those efforts. If Shokin had extorted money and had someone killed you'd have something here. As it is, as usual, you have nada...
Raoul_Luke
I feel a bit lightheaded. Maybe you should drive.
So again, you are citing Legarde's criticism of Poroshenko. What proof do you have that the "100 members of parliament are not part of the corruption looking to keep the prosecutor general's office in chaos?Yes. How about the letter from Congressmen? I searched IMF ukraine loan hold and found quite a few sources. Try it.
Your other links do not praise Shokin...as much as you wish they did. You continue to ignore the diamond scandal.
IMF Demand For Ukraine Reform Just Latest Red Flag For Poroshenko
Anticorruption campaigners point to the controversial appointment in February 2014, at the height of the Euromaidan furor, of sexagenarian Prosecutor-General Viktor Shokin.
Poroshenko has ignored repeated calls to sack Shokin, including from more than 100 members of parliament.
IMF Demand For Ukraine Reform Just Latest Red Flag For Poroshenko
The head of the International Monetary Fund's blunt criticism of Ukraine marks a new low point for a beleaguered administration in Kyiv's efforts to battle corruption.
There was nothing offering praise for Shokin....they praised efforts by the Ukrainian government and also stated the PGO should be reformed.
Then there is the Diamond Scandal...
The men became known as “The Diamond Prosecutors”, and Sakvarelidze tried to press charges against them.
But the day after the pair were arrested, Sakvarelidze found himself accused by the prosecutor general’s office of unjustly raiding a state institution. The “Diamond Prosecutors” were soon released on bail. Nothing has since come of the case, nor of the accusations against Sakvarelidze.
Ukraine: New government, same corruption | Corruption | Al Jazeera
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