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fairsheet

Senator
One of the cooler things about Obamacare, is that it's positives have accrued to both GOPs and Dems alike. The ODS-ers are fooling themselves if they think voters are going to give up their newly-realized health insurance, just so's to poke a stick in the eye of the Democrats. The person who never had health insurance coverage before but does now, knows godamned well who's lying and who isn't!
 

JuliefromOhio

President
Supporting Member
One of the cooler things about Obamacare, is that it's positives have accrued to both GOPs and Dems alike. The ODS-ers are fooling themselves if they think voters are going to give up their newly-realized health insurance, just so's to poke a stick in the eye of the Democrats. The person who never had health insurance coverage before but does now, knows godamned well who's lying and who isn't!
 

oicu812

"Trust, but Verify"
and in other news:


Obamacare's Cadillac Tax Hits the College Campus

By John S. Rosenberg April 14, 2015 5:15 AM

Higher education and its comfortable inhabitants on campus have long been hotbeds of support for Obama and Obamacare. Now, along with business and labor, i.e., the other inhabitants of what passes for the real world, they are about to become victims of one of its high “Cadillac” tax on generous health plans.


In 2009 President Obama gave assurances that he did not want any tax on health insurance plans he considered wasteful or too generous to affect average Americans. In one of his now famous talks broadcast on CNN, MIT economist Jonathan Gruber, "one of the men who helped draft the legislation, [explains] that is not only precisely what will happen - but that was the intention of the tax."
Politico notes that “a mix of business groups and labor unions” are arm in arm — and up in arms — fighting to kill this tax. Unnoted in the article is that higher education also will be hit especially hard. The dramatic impact of the “Cadillac” tax on higher education has been noticed before, such as on this site (“Obamacare Hits Adjuncts Hard”) and Megan McArdle’s delicious putdown, “Whining Harvard Professors Discover Obamacare.”
Now, as the scheduled 2018 implementation of the tax gets closer and more and more colleges begin to adjust their health plans to deal with it, awareness of the impending pain is beginning to spread. In New Jersey, four of the state’s 11 public colleges and universities have dropped student health insurance, and three of Washington State’s 6 public institutions have done so as well. Here are a few more tax induced changes:
• George Washington University: “It no longer offers its most generous plan as to avoid paying the tax.”
• University of Virginia: “Major changes are coming to the University of Virginia health plan. With U.VA facing rising health care costs, spiking expenses of high-dollar claims and looming fees and taxes connected with federal health reform….”
• William Patterson University: Dropping health insurance.
• University of Minnesota: “One of the state's largest employers is proposing to scale back its employee health plans to avoid a massive tax penalty under the new federal health care law.”
• Ohio University: “Ohio University employees might see their health care deductibles double and premiums rise because of a provision of the Affordable Care Act that taxes so-called 'Cadillac' health plans, officials have said.”
Related: Thousands to Get Booted from Obamacare Plans
In a mailing sent to “Dear Colleagues” last month, Ohio University provided a detailed explanation of the need for its changes:
"The university’s health care costs are projected to increase by as much as 8 percent per year, or $4 to $5 million annually, for the next several years. Additionally, in 2018, the ACA will begin taxing high cost Cadillac health plans where health plan costs exceed $10,200 per year for individuals or $27,500 per year for families. As currently structured, the university’s PPO health plans are on pace to exceed these levels and subject Ohio University to the Cadillac plan tax."
As more and more colleges and universities cut their benefits in order to make their health plans “sustainable,” I suspect the new campus fetish of sustainability will take a serious hit.
This opinion piece originally appeared in Minding the Campus.
John S. Rosenberg, a former history professor at Northern Illinois and Bucknell, now writes about discrimination and other matters at Discriminations.

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/obamac...091500185.html



gee,,who knew?
 

Caroljo

Senator
I have heard ONE person in our area that we've talked to say anything good about it. So many have lost big time on this! Of course, no lib here will believe this, but it's the truth. All I hear is complaining about what people have lost, how Obamacare has screwed their lives up. Some have completely lost their insurance because now they can't afford it. Now the fines have come in....I know of at least 12 people in the last 2 months just around here that have had to pay that fine (tax).
 

Addy

Rebuild With Biden!
One of the cooler things about Obamacare, is that it's positives have accrued to both GOPs and Dems alike. The ODS-ers are fooling themselves if they think voters are going to give up their newly-realized health insurance, just so's to poke a stick in the eye of the Democrats. The person who never had health insurance coverage before but does now, knows godamned well who's lying and who isn't!
I read today about this repub guy on Obamacare changing parties, he has become a dem out of fear, if Hillary loses, he would lose his insurance if a repub won.
 

fairsheet

Senator
I read today about this repub guy on Obamacare changing parties, he has become a dem out of fear, if Hillary loses, he would lose his insurance if a repub won.
The Fox/GOP knew what would happen if Obamacare went into effect. The people would like it. Obamacare-hate is passé.
 

JuliefromOhio

President
Supporting Member
I have heard ONE person in our area that we've talked to say anything good about it. So many have lost big time on this! Of course, no lib here will believe this, but it's the truth. All I hear is complaining about what people have lost, how Obamacare has screwed their lives up. Some have completely lost their insurance because now they can't afford it. Now the fines have come in....I know of at least 12 people in the last 2 months just around here that have had to pay that fine (tax).
you need to find better friends/acquaintances. the ones you have sound hard up and/or stupid or suffer ODS like you do.
 

oicu812

"Trust, but Verify"
i have no doubt at all that those that support ACA are also RECIPIENTS of the "free to greatly subsidised" health plans..

people tend to act in their own self-interests..

the supporters try to pass off their own selfish goals [their free healthcare] as altruistic in nature,,[its for the good of everyone],,but there is nothing charitable about their intent...

but then dems have never been charitable with their own monies,,,,just others,,,if it benefits them personally...
 
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