More Voter Suppression Is Needed, Not Less

[protectionist]

With the illegal alien population skyrocketing now, voter fraud skyrockets right along with it.

 

[protectionist]

Just let him have Poland, and we will have peace in our times.

Poland is one of our TOP ALLIES in the world. You are ignorant.

 

[Spamature]

I don't believe voter impersonation is happening. I propose that we sort any point shaving scheme by providing everybody that may need it an ID thereby eliminating the issue

But they aren't providing people with these IDs nor will they ever. Because it was NEVER actually about ID. It is about giving them Poland and you want to do it in exchange for peace Minister Chamberlain.

 

[Spamature]

You're not that stupid or ignorant.

I am asking you the question.

It is your claim.

How about an answer.

 

[Spamature]

With the illegal alien population skyrocketing now, voter fraud skyrockets right along with it.

ID is to prevent voter impersonation fraud.

That's it.

Are you claiming that illegals are impersonating other voters on the roll ?

 

[Spamature]

Poland is one of our TOP ALLIES in the world. You are ignorant.

You missed the point entirely.

 

[EatTheRich]

.. of which there’s no evidence of, if we’re talking about what it actually means.

unless you can point to who is being prevented from voting.. aka having their vote suppressed

it’s only a buzzword meant to scare and divide and has no connection to what the term means.

The Facts About Voter Suppression [Infographic]

LET PEOPLE VOTE. ACLU 2012 campaign to let people vote. Click on any of the four panels below to view or download a larger version.

www.aclu.org

 

[protectionist]

ID is to prevent voter impersonation fraud.

That's it.

Are you claiming that illegals are impersonating other voters on the roll ?

CITIZENSHIP ID is to prevent illegal voting by illegal aliens who are not eligible to vote. Got it ?

 

[EatTheRich]

The Georgia law allows for a Social Security #. Is there a problem with that?

It says right on my social security card that I’m not supposed to give that number to anyone except to pay taxes for and access social security benefits.

 

[protectionist]

I am asking you the question.

It is your claim.

How about an answer.

HA HA. I've answered it 1000 times in this forum, as have other posters. You are full of crap. You DON'T HAVE a question.

 

[EatTheRich]

I don't know what's more disenfranchising then assuming that certain people are too dumb to accomplish obtaining an ID...

That’s a dishonest characterization of the deliberate erection of substantial obstacles to getting acceptable ID.

 

[EatTheRich]

Republicans are too dumb to court voters.

We courted so many voters that it took voter FRAUD to illegally elect Jim Crow Jow.

They can't go to a majority of voters and convince them to vote for Republicans. Which is how normal elections are won.

Yes we can. We are right and you people are wrong.

Instead they just to disenfranchised people who disagree with them. It's a monumentally stupid plan.

We disagree with one person voting a thousand times in a thousand different precincts. We disagree with copy machines illegally deciding elections.

And YOU are the retards who are opposed to a government issued PHOTO ID being required at all precincts.

Republicans are the ONLY party that calls for ONE PERSON ONE VOTE.

There's NO WAY that racist Pres. Biden Biden could be in the White House except for voter fraud. Only a moron thinks otherwise.

“One person one vote” would mean abolishing the Electoral College and Senate. Anyway, Biden clearly won and Trump’s lavishly funded fishing expedition for examples of “fraud” came up totally empty.

 

[EatTheRich]

I love the idea. Print one on the spot. And then everybody can shut the hell up about the subject

That won’t accomplish the Republican objective of suppressing the Democratic vote, though.

 

[EatTheRich]

Because you don't have constitutional right to any of that. Yet you do have a constitutionally protected right to vote.


Actually, you don't. Nobody does. There is no such thing in the Constitution as a right to vote. It was never established. The Amendments to the Constitution do not mention a right to vote. All the Amendments do is issue RESTRICTIONS on government, concerning voter rights. Government cannot refuse voter rights based on (pick your favorite protected class)

Nobody is cheating. We just don't like unnecessary beauracracy.

You consider any VOTING LAWS to be unnecessary bureaucracy. You consider ANY restrictions on CHEATING to be unnecessary bureaucracy.

Either that, or you are admitting that Democrat voters are too stupid and ignorant to be able to get a government issued photo ID. And you'd be wrong, because you need a photo ID to apply for welfare, and all Democrats are on welfare, so they ALL have photo IDS.

1. Many of those eligible for welfare don’t get it because of the red tape involved.
2. Many IDs accepted for accessing welfare programs are not accepted for voting in strict voter ID states.

 

[EatTheRich]

All states require ID to register.

Except North Dakota, the 8th-whitest state. Which has no voter registration requirement at all.

 

[Spamature]

CITIZENSHIP ID is to prevent illegal voting by illegal aliens who are not eligible to vote. Got it ?

Is your citizenship listed on your driver's license ?

 

[EatTheRich]

There is no RIGHT to not have an ID. And the ONLY way elections will EVER be credible again is for EVERY vote cast by a LEGALLY registered voter, who shows up at the polls with a PHOTO ID, or has sent in a LEGALLY applied for absentee vote, which likewise required a PHOTO ID.

Otherwise, people vote in seven or eight precincts on the same day. It has been documented and it has swayed many elections, (all of which in the Democrat direction.)

Hell, the STATE OF GEORGIA's Democrat invited California criminals to come there and vote, NO PHOTO ID required.

We KNOW you Democrats cheat. And we're trying to stop it. You KNOW you can't win a legal election. You certainly didn't win the last one.

Link to where that thing you made up has been documented? It isn’t even plausible ... the risk (very high) to reward (essentially nil) ratio just isn’t there. In fact studies show that the rate of in-person voter impersonation is less than 1 in 200 million votes cast.

 

[Spamature]

HA HA. I've answered it 1000 times in this forum, as have other posters. You are full of crap. You DON'T HAVE a question.

Then make it 1001 because I would like to know where you got this idea the election was stolen from.

That is the question before you.

It should be something you know.

So how about an answer.

 

[EatTheRich]

He could and should have. Although his presidency was massively successful and accomplished perhaps more than any president in US history, I never claimed that it was 100% perfect. It should have gotten CITIZENSHIP ID as a requirement for voting, and it should have investigated the Biden fraud machine as it was developing.

Operation Wetback DID NOT FAIL, By 1959, illegal immigration was practically non-existent. We need another one, if American jobs and workers are to be protected from unscrupulous employers. What happened to Democrat support for the American worker. Gone globalist ?

The Democrats, like the Republicans, have always (since Reconstruction when they stopped being the slaveowners’ party) been on the side of the capitalist. That said, there is no way to support the rights of the American worker without at the same time supporting the equal rights of all workers ... otherwise the capitalists succeed with there divide and conquer strategy. There is:

1) no evidence of undocumented immigrants illegally voting in substantial numbers
2) no reason why any resident in the country regardless of citizenship or legal status should not have the right to vote

 

[EatTheRich]

I realize that information-deprived liberal victims of liberal OMISSION media have a massive dearth of information, so this should help >>>

Trump Accomplishments

1. RECORD positive numbers on the economy, record highs in stock market, despite Covid shutdowns
2. stopped the absurd practice of giving China unrestricted access to our valuable market, and reduced the amount of imports coming from China.
3. holding China accountable for cyber theft,
4. taking Mexico and Central American countries to task for illegal immigration,
5. created 10 million jobs in 4 months, created over 400,000 manufacturing jobs,
6. unemployment claims hit 50 year low,
7. lowest unemployment for blacks, Hispanics, Asians, and disabled in US history, 8.lowest unemployment for women in over 70 years,
9. lowest unemployment rate ever recorded for Americans without a high school diploma,
10. 4 million Americans off food stamps,
11. vocational training topped 4 million - highest ever,
12. highest median wage in US history .
13. Obamacare individual mandate penalty GONE,
14. FDA approved more affordable generic drugs than ever before in history. > drug companies are freezing or reversing planned price increases,
15. reformed the Medicare program to stop hospitals from overcharging low-income seniors on their drugs—saving seniors hundreds of millions of dollars,
16. Signed Right-To-Try legislation,
17. $6 billion in NEW funding to fight the opioid epidemic (the most ever),
18. Signed VA Accountability Act,
19. expanded VA telehealth services, walk-in-clinics, and same-day urgent primary and mental health care (I got surgeries and benefits from this myself),
20. United States was a net natural gas exporter for the first time since 1957,
21. withdrew the United States from the job-killing Paris Climate Accord,
22. pressured NATO allies, and they're spending $69 billion more on defense since 2016,
23. made the Space Force the 6th branch of the Armed Forces,
24. withdrew from the horrible, one-sided Iran Deal, 25. moved U.S. Embassy to Jerusalem,
25. protected Americans from terrorists with the Travel Ban, upheld by Supreme Court, 26. issued Executive Order to keep open Guantanamo Bay,
27. MCA deal,
28. reached a breakthrough agreement with the E.U. to increase U.S. exports
29. greast number of heavily attended rallies in US history
30. net exports increased $59 Billion in 2018,
31. improved vetting and screening for refugees, and switched focus to overseas resettlement,
32. we are BUILDING THE WALL.
33. provided quality detention centers for migrant children in Southwest Key Programs
34. created 8,700 Opportunity Zones with investment incentives for companies to invest in distressed communities
35. Got Israel/UAE/Bahrain aggreement (the Abraham Accord), establishing Middle East peace
36. Defeated ISIS and killed their leaders incl. # 1 al Baghdadi.
37. Killed Iranian terrorist leader Sulemani.
38. Stopped domestic terrorist mobs by sending federal troops & National Guard
39. record of number of regulations cut, further boosting the economy
40. opened ANWR and approved Keystone XL and Dakota Access Pipelines thereby making America # 1 energy producer in the world (no other president ever did that),
41. rebuilt the US military to a $721 Billion/yr budget
42. increased wages for military personnel
43. Through the COVID pandemic, our Covid mortality rate was REDUCED from over 17,000/week in April. to about 2000/week in June. and remained very low throughout the year, as a result of the many smart things that the president has done. 90% REDUCTION. > HUGE SUCCESS.
44. Massive production of Ventilators - These were left in short supply after the Obama/Biden admin (we now have so many we're exporting them),
45. the Navy hospital ships sent to New York,
46. the stimulus checks,
47. The Task Force advice (ex. social distancing),
48. opposition/criticism of New York's dumb nursing home policies,
49. federal aid to hospitals, rapidly expanding production & distribution of medical supplies
50. travel bans (which Democrats called Trump a "racist' for),
51. Trump's advocacy of Hydroxychloriquin (now proven to be effective, despite criticism from Democrats), and Regeneron.
52. fast, continual development of a vaccine, and rapid success of Operation Warp Speed.
53. Created & signed the MISSION ACT, replacing the failed Obama Choice Act
54. Presided over the largest GDP growth (33.1%) in US history.

I count:
1) inheriting a great economy and coasting on the foundation set down by his predecessor
2) a few accomplishments, mostly minor
3) trade wars with at best a mixed record for success
4) recklessness with our climate that will cost us dearly
5) helping get Iran’s nuclear weapons program back up and running
6) a “wall” for show that disappointed everyone supporting it but the cronies profiting at taxpayer expense
7) sheer quackery and shameless credit for things he did his best to undermine