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More Voter Suppression Is Needed, Not Less

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middleview

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JIBBERISH> Of course there are ways to support the American worker without supporting all (foreign) workers. First & foremost, keep the foreigner out, so they don't compete with American workers and steal our jobs.

This has nothing to do with dividing and conquering. It has to do with nationalism vs internationalism (communism). The influx of foreign workers in the US is decimating the rights and economic health of American workers. To protect American workers this has to be stopped. Trump was doing a good job of stopping it, and protecting American workers. Biden is now expanding illegal immigration, and annihilating the American working class (especially minorities).

"no evidence of undocumented immigrants illegally voting in substantial numbers" ?

This is a standard lie told by left media, and leftists fully vulnerable to it, because they don't see/hear any conservative media to clean it up. Here's part of the clean-up>>>

Texas Democrats ask noncitizens to register to vote

Poll: 13% of Illegal Aliens ADMIT They Vote - California Political Review

https://publicinterestlegal.org/files/Report_Alien-Invasion-in-Virginia.pdf

https://publicinterestlegal.org/files/Safe-Spaces_Final.pdf

Finally Proof of Illegal Alien Voting

Noncitizens, Voting Violations and U.S. Elections | Federation for American Immigration Reform

Illegal Aliens Really Do Vote – a Lot

https://publicinterestlegal.org/files/Philadelphia-Litigation-Report.pdf

Exclusive: Florida Investigating Potential Non-Citizen Voters

As for the ludicrous comment >> "2) no reason why any resident in the country regardless of citizenship or legal status should not have the right to vote", the OBVIOUS reason is because voting determines how things are going to be done in your country. If you allow noncitizens to vote, they can vote in favor of the best way for things to be done that FAVORS THEIR COUNTRY (China, Mexico, etc), often DISadvantageous to AMERICANS.
Posting the same shit, even after I gave you proof that your sources are wrong....
 

middleview

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Answer Continued >>>>>

Allegations about Dominion voting machines
Dominion machines can be altered to manipulate tallies in just a few minutes, using malicious code, according to Princeton professor of computer science and election security expert Andrew Appel.

A ballot can be spoiled or altered by the Dominion machine because “the ballot marking printer is in the same paper path as the mechanism to deposit marked ballots into an attached ballot box,” a study by University of California–Berkeley said.

The voting machines are susceptible to hacking or remote tampering because they are connected to the internet, even though they’re not supposed to be, according to a lawsuit. “If one laptop was connected to the internet, the entire precinct was compromised.”

There is evidence of remote access and remote troubleshooting, “which presents a grave security implication,” according to Finnish computer programmer and election security expert Hari Hursti. His declaration also claims the activity logs of the voting machines can be overwritten by hackers to erase their steps.

Dominion machine operators can change settings to exclude certain ballots from being counted. The ballots can be put in a separate file and deleted simply, according to Ronald Watkins, a software and cyber-security expert who reviewed the Dominion software manual. He also said final vote count involved machine operators copying and pasting the “Results” folder onto a USB drive, a process he calls “error-prone and very vulnerable to malicious administrators.”
1. Hari Hursti disagrees with Trump's cyber security director. Krebs was responsible for monitoring the election and had been planning their efforts for a year. Hursti shows up after the election and says he has evidence....but where is it? Was he ever a party to any of Trump's lawsuits? What tools did he have to detect that remote access? Who let him into any of the election centers during the count?

2. The allegation that Dominion machines are somehow changing ballots is bizarre...where is a link to the source of that analysis? "Can be altered" is not evidence that any ballots were changed.

3. The bullshit about altered tallies has already been kicked to the curb by Sydney Powell who said "nobody in their right mind believed what I said was factual".
Fox, NewsMax and other right wing media have apologized for their reporting and have admitted there was no truth to the dominion conspiracy theory.

4. Ronald Watkins, the so called "Expert" on cyber security...finished high school in 2005 and has mysteriously acquired credentials in IT without ever going to college or any other formal training.
 

EatTheRich

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Stop lying. I didn't say "Democratic mail in voters outnumbered the same day Republican voters," YOU said that. I said >>
"A statistical analysis of New York Times data in Philadelphia claims a suspicious string of voting “ratios” benefitting Biden, as also happened in Georgia. By 11pm Election Day, Trump was leading Biden by about 285,000 votes. Then, 347,768 votes from somewhere dumped into the system in 44 batches in increments of approximately 6,000, 12,000, or 18,000 additional net votes for Biden. As a result, Biden came back from an election night deficit of 285,000 to a 46,000 vote win four days later."
Since you are not engaging in this discussion HONESTLY, I have no desire to participate with your DISHONESTY. You are disqualified. As a result, all your posts are moot nothing.

And you know perfectly well what the graphic means. It shows the details of the vote fabricating for Biden in Pennsylvania ,as reported even by a liberal newspaper, the New York Times.

I don't know what you're talking about regarding "750K votes" Here's what you should be talking about >> New York Times Election Report Reveals 104,984 Stolen Votes in Ga, 347,768 in PA


No point in going further here. You're not addressing my posts about the fraud; you're just spinning that's all. You asked for proof of the frauds. You got it, and so does anybody else who wants to see it, and LOTS of it. Post #s 260, 261, 262, 263, 264, 267.
More BS from you. The postal driver claimed he was not debunked, nor did he recant. That was another Democrat lie. See what happens when you listen to Democrat fake news liars like the Washington Post ?

The only thing “suspicious” alleged is that Biden (as fully expected) got a bigger share of the mail-in vote though.

So the postal guy said one thing when talking to authorities under penalty of prosecution, and another to the press. Yawn.
 

middleview

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answer continued...Georgia Continued

In one county, 3,300 votes were found after the election on memory sticks that had not been loaded into the central vote tally system. There are no procedures to ensure the security of the USB drives reporting vote tallies, according to a lawsuit.

Georgia election officials allegedly intended to alter and/or wipe machines. A judge granted attorney Lin Wood's emergency request to preserve the machines as-they-are while other motions are considered (Sunday, Nov. 29).

Read Judge's Order


Security camera video presented at a hearing in Georgia purports to show while a room was emptied and counting paused, a few officials pulled groups of ballots out of four suitcases and counted them without legal observers present.

Watch the video here

Watch Georgia Senate hearing here

Multiple poll observers claim they were not allowed close enough to do proper observation or were moved out of the counting rooms entirely.

Supervisor Marcia Ridley of the Spalding County Board of Elections said a "technical glitch" in two Georgia countries that caused machines to crash for several hours on Election Day was triggered by something Dominion Voting Systems uploaded the night before. However, the Secretary of State's office contradicted that information when questioned under oath stating: "It’s not true … I’m not really sure why she said that."

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An analysis of a Dominion voting machine shows 37 votes were moved from Trump to Biden in one small county, according to information presented at a state hearing. Trump attorneys claim when extrapolated statewide, it would add up to 14,000 votes, while Biden won Georgia by 10,000 votes.

On Nov. 18, Cobb County shredded white privacy envelopes for absentee ballots, which are required to be saved under Georgia law to show if each ballot arrived via mail Nov. 18; stacks of absentee ballots had never been folded though they would have to be to be properly mailed; some ballots were kept in Dominion officials' cars in violation of security procedures; when observers were dismissed from State Farm Arena, counting went on for two hours without them and during this time period Biden pulled ahead; for 2% of ballots in Fulton County there was no proper chain of custody (an amount greater than Biden's lead in the states); ballots were transported in an insecure fashion without the required security tags, 25,000 people voted who had filed permanent out-of-state change-of-addresses. All of that is according to witnesses at a Georgia State House hearing on Dec. 10.

Watch Georgia State House hearing
1. Funny thing. All 62 lawsuits were tossed out, but you still think bringing them up is proof of something.
2. The shit about the four suit cases (ballot carriers)) from under tables has been debunked time and time again. There was a leak and water was coming in through the ceiling. They put the ballots into the carriers and under the tables to keep them dry. The republican Secretary of State and Gabe Sterling both addressed this.
3. "in one county"? Really? What county was it?
4. The privacy envelope that was shredded is blank...it has no value in auditing the election.
 

Spamature

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Like making dc a State? Is that creating a system...
I am not going to lie to you.

DC becoming a state. While it is true that they people in that district aren't represented in congress as should be, and it's something the majority of the population in the district wants.

It is legislatively a plot by the Dems to gain and/or maintain power, and I don't blame the Republicans for fighting against it. But the Dems aren't proposing that we consolidate the Dakotas into a single state as a compromise either.

Instead, I say keep the 2 Dakotas, the 2 Carolinas, and the 2 Virginias as they are, don't offer DC to be absorbed by another state, and let each party compete for the voters in all of them.
 
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Then your ID law doesn't even stop non-citizens from voting.

And no, you don't need to be a citizen to get a DL.
Not sure what ID law you're talking about, but to stop illegals from voting a foolproof CITIZENSHIP photo ID requirement is necessary. I've been saying this for years.
 
So your link to the Disability Service Coordinator named "Susan" doesn't actually name her or the places were the voter interference is supposed to have happened and this info was never used in any court filing....meaning it is hearsay and worthless.

None of the accusations leveled at Dominion matter...Fox, InfoWars, Newsmax and Sydney Powell have all told you there is nothing there.
Yes they matter. , and no that's NOT what Sidney Powell said. Forensic analysis by a former military intelligence analyst alleges proof of foreign interference, and/or access in the election. It shows Dominion’s voting machine server connected to Iran, China and Serbia. Also, the analyst says records show Hong Kong Shanghai Bank became collateral agent for Dominion voting systems on Sept. 25, 2019. The declaration is contained in the lawsuit filed by attorney Sidney Powell, and includes screen shots and a summary of the evidence.


To their Credit, Newsmax was one of the few networks that correctly reported the faults of Dominion voting machines, and their propensity to be used for fraud, including:

1. Dominion machines can be altered to manipulate tallies in just a few minutes, using malicious code, according to Princeton professor of computer science and election security expert Andrew Appel.

2. A ballot can be spoiled or altered by the Dominion machine because “the ballot marking printer is in the same paper path as the mechanism to deposit marked ballots into an attached ballot box,” a study by University of California–Berkeley said.

3. The voting machines are susceptible to hacking or remote tampering because they are connected to the internet, even though they’re not supposed to be, according to a lawsuit. “If one laptop was connected to the internet, the entire precinct was compromised.”

4. There is evidence of remote access and remote troubleshooting, “which presents a grave security implication,” according to Finnish computer programmer and election security expert Hari Hursti.

5. Hursti also claims the activity logs of the voting machines can be overwritten by hackers to erase their steps.

6. Dominion machine operators can change settings to exclude certain ballots from being counted. The ballots can be put in a separate file and deleted simply, according to Ronald Watkins, a software and cyber-security expert who reviewed the Dominion software manual. He also said final vote count involved machine operators copying and pasting the “Results” folder onto a USB drive, a process he calls “error-prone and very vulnerable to malicious administrators.”

7. In Wisconsin, affidavits and statistical analyses allege more than 318,000 illegal ballots were counted, 15,000 mail-in ballots were lost, 18,000 were “fraudulently recorded” in the name of voters who never asked for mail-in ballots, 7,000 ineligible voters who had moved out of state voted illegally, Biden over performed in places using Dominion voting machines, and elections officials directed workers to "cure" or fix ballots with no witness address, or with voter certification missing on absentee ballot certificates and envelopes, even though the law states such ballots are not to be counted.

8. Gregory Stenstrom claims he saw a Dominion Voting Systems vendor inserting flash drives into voting aggregation machines in Delaware County, and co-mingling flash drives from aggregation machines, possibly hurting the ability of auditors to properly certify results, according to a Pennsylvania legislature hearing. Is Dominion going to apologize for that ?

9. Dominion Voting Systems committed to attending an oversight hearing in Pennsylvania but backed out at the last moment. Pennsylvania state Rep. Seth Grove, a Republican who chairs the Government Oversight Committee, said >>>
“If Dominion’s products were successful and operated as they were supposed to, why wouldn’t Dominion take the opportunity to publicly review its success? How hard is it to say, ‘our ballot machines worked exactly as promised, and they are 100 percent accurate?'”
 
1. Funny thing. All 62 lawsuits were tossed out, but you still think bringing them up is proof of something.
2. The shit about the four suit cases (ballot carriers)) from under tables has been debunked time and time again. There was a leak and water was coming in through the ceiling. They put the ballots into the carriers and under the tables to keep them dry. The republican Secretary of State and Gabe Sterling both addressed this.
3. "in one county"? Really? What county was it?
4. The privacy envelope that was shredded is blank...it has no value in auditing the election.
HA HA HA. A leak in the ceiling. OMG Democrats will say anything. So what happened right at the time the Republicans were all sent home. Suddenly the leak disappeared ? You guys get more & more ridiculous every day.



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Allowing illegal aliens to vote in US elections, is tantamount to allowing another country to invade the US, and take over control of it.
 

condorkristy

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It must be incredibly frustrating that absolutely nobody believes the election was stolen besides those that voted for the moron named Trump. I revel in their misery.
 
It must be incredibly frustrating that absolutely nobody believes the election was stolen besides those that voted for the moron named Trump. I revel in their misery.
It must be incredibly frustrating to have to say that absolutely nobody believes the election was stolen besides those that voted for Trump, while knowing that the overwhelming majority of AMERICAN CITIZEN voters voted for Trump. I feel very sorry for them. 1619934553587.png
 

middleview

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HA HA HA. A leak in the ceiling. OMG Democrats will say anything. So what happened right at the time the Republicans were all sent home. Suddenly the leak disappeared ? You guys get more & more ridiculous every day.



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Stop the presses! Your reliance on pure bullshit should be rewarded...tell Trump to set up his own cabinet an get ready to move back into the White House because a "data expert" says there were 300,000 illegal voters in Az...he can't prove it...but hey, He' an expert.

And then there are the 35 cases of charges being brought against people who voted illegally or registered illegally....not sure how that 2019 case counts.

In any case...Trump lost and making shit up about millions of illegal votes when what you have is a handful is a waste of time.
 

EatTheRich

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Yes they matter. , and no that's NOT what Sidney Powell said. Forensic analysis by a former military intelligence analyst alleges proof of foreign interference, and/or access in the election. It shows Dominion’s voting machine server connected to Iran, China and Serbia. Also, the analyst says records show Hong Kong Shanghai Bank became collateral agent for Dominion voting systems on Sept. 25, 2019. The declaration is contained in the lawsuit filed by attorney Sidney Powell, and includes screen shots and a summary of the evidence.


To their Credit, Newsmax was one of the few networks that correctly reported the faults of Dominion voting machines, and their propensity to be used for fraud, including:

1. Dominion machines can be altered to manipulate tallies in just a few minutes, using malicious code, according to Princeton professor of computer science and election security expert Andrew Appel.

2. A ballot can be spoiled or altered by the Dominion machine because “the ballot marking printer is in the same paper path as the mechanism to deposit marked ballots into an attached ballot box,” a study by University of California–Berkeley said.

3. The voting machines are susceptible to hacking or remote tampering because they are connected to the internet, even though they’re not supposed to be, according to a lawsuit. “If one laptop was connected to the internet, the entire precinct was compromised.”

4. There is evidence of remote access and remote troubleshooting, “which presents a grave security implication,” according to Finnish computer programmer and election security expert Hari Hursti.

5. Hursti also claims the activity logs of the voting machines can be overwritten by hackers to erase their steps.

6. Dominion machine operators can change settings to exclude certain ballots from being counted. The ballots can be put in a separate file and deleted simply, according to Ronald Watkins, a software and cyber-security expert who reviewed the Dominion software manual. He also said final vote count involved machine operators copying and pasting the “Results” folder onto a USB drive, a process he calls “error-prone and very vulnerable to malicious administrators.”

7. In Wisconsin, affidavits and statistical analyses allege more than 318,000 illegal ballots were counted, 15,000 mail-in ballots were lost, 18,000 were “fraudulently recorded” in the name of voters who never asked for mail-in ballots, 7,000 ineligible voters who had moved out of state voted illegally, Biden over performed in places using Dominion voting machines, and elections officials directed workers to "cure" or fix ballots with no witness address, or with voter certification missing on absentee ballot certificates and envelopes, even though the law states such ballots are not to be counted.

8. Gregory Stenstrom claims he saw a Dominion Voting Systems vendor inserting flash drives into voting aggregation machines in Delaware County, and co-mingling flash drives from aggregation machines, possibly hurting the ability of auditors to properly certify results, according to a Pennsylvania legislature hearing. Is Dominion going to apologize for that ?

9. Dominion Voting Systems committed to attending an oversight hearing in Pennsylvania but backed out at the last moment. Pennsylvania state Rep. Seth Grove, a Republican who chairs the Government Oversight Committee, said >>>
“If Dominion’s products were successful and operated as they were supposed to, why wouldn’t Dominion take the opportunity to publicly review its success? How hard is it to say, ‘our ballot machines worked exactly as promised, and they are 100 percent accurate?'”
You know that Powell, Newsmax, and Watkins all said under oath that they were lying in their public statements, and that next to none of the “affidavits” were filed in court, right?
 

Spamature

President
Not sure what ID law you're talking about, but to stop illegals from voting a foolproof CITIZENSHIP photo ID requirement is necessary. I've been saying this for years.
What is that ?

Which ID do you think everyone should carry ?

Are you demanding a national ID program ?

You bunch of hypocrites.

Dems spark alarm with call for national ID card | TheHill

National Identification System | Cato Institute


 

Spamature

President
So your link to the Disability Service Coordinator named "Susan" doesn't actually name her or the places were the voter interference is supposed to have happened and this info was never used in any court filing....meaning it is hearsay and worthless.

None of the accusations leveled at Dominion matter...Fox, InfoWars, Newsmax and Sydney Powell have all told you there is nothing there.
1. ? Generally, callers to talk radio shows give only their first name (I've never heard a last name given), and they're sometimes afraid to name businesses (or the radio station wont allow it). Well, we could dig into it a little deeper, and then what will you say if/when we get a last name for Susan, and name of the assisted living center she referred to ? And we DO have a name for the host of the radio show Dan O'Donnell, so for now , we DO have one proper name, as he is on record as stating all this information.

2. FALSE! As I already posted earlier, Sydney Powell leveled accusations at Dominion with screenshot evidence that was never examined. Forensic analysis by a former military intelligence analyst alleges proof of foreign interference and/or access in the election. It shows Dominion’s voting machine server connected to Iran, China and Serbia. Also, the analyst says records show Hong Kong Shanghai Bank became collateral agent for Dominion voting systems on Sept. 25, 2019. The declaration is contained in the lawsuit (with all proper names and places noted), filed by attorney Sidney Powell, and includes screen shots and a summary of the evidence.
 
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