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New York attorney general files civil fraud lawsuit against Trump, some of his children and his business

JohnJohnson

Council Member
Lying is lying, bruh.
Does that apply to Leticia James in court filings?

"Trump claimed that 12 rent-controlled apartments at Trump Park Avenue were worth $50 million total when they were valued by a third-party appraiser at $750,000 total, the suit states. "

Leticia James is saying these apartments are only worth about $62,000 each. Trump said they are worth $4.1 million each. If you look at the value of Trump Park Avenue apartments on Zillow you will find the value is much, much closer to what Trump stated than what James stated. In what world could you an apartment in high end area in New York be valued at basically nothing?

Lying is indeed lying, right?
 
Does that apply to Leticia James in court filings?

"Trump claimed that 12 rent-controlled apartments at Trump Park Avenue were worth $50 million total when they were valued by a third-party appraiser at $750,000 total, the suit states. "

Leticia James is saying these apartments are only worth about $62,000 each. Trump said they are worth $4.1 million each. If you look at the value of Trump Park Avenue apartments on Zillow you will find the value is much, much closer to what Trump stated than what James stated. In what world could you an apartment in high end area in New York be valued at basically nothing?

Lying is indeed lying, right?
Zestimates?
Bhahahahahahhaahaja
 
Absolutely. So you believe upscale apartments in New York really are worth only $62,000 as James is claiming as opposed to Zillow? I've got some oceanfront property in Oklahoma, too. Interested?
It's common knowledge that Zestimates are total bullshit. Not something I would use to prove my own estimates aren't bullshit.
 

JohnJohnson

Council Member
It's common knowledge that Zestimates are total bullshit. Not something I would use to prove my own estimates aren't bullshit.
Maybe. But an a valuation of $62,000 is not going to end up in the millions. So you believe high end apartments in New York are worth $62,000? Or have you been duped by the propaganda?
 

JohnJohnson

Council Member
Who told you these were high end apartments?

Trump is a slum lord, always has always will be.
Seven are currently on the market in that complex by different owners and brokers and all have ASKING prices in the 7....and even 8 digits.



I get it that you hate Trump so the claim that they are only worth $62,000 must be true. No critical thinking allowed. It was, however, a lie.

The idea that condos are only valued at $62,000 each in a complex where EVERY SINGLE LISTING is 7 digits is not in the realm of reality.

The idea that a borrow who took out a loan and paid it back per the terms is somehow guilty of something because you THINK the lender didn't do due diligence is not in the realm of reality.

The fact is back in 2018 James ran on the claim that she would get Trump. She openly admitted it. It stirred her base into a frenzy and got them out to vote. Immediately upon taking office she opened up a criminal investigation. Nearly 4 years later and with re-election fast approaching her base has long grown restless with the fact she hasn't charged him with anything. A recent poll by Trafalgar showed her now trailing her Republican opponent. In order to win she desperately needs her base to reenergize and get behind her. And thus out of desperation this bizarre frivolous civil suit was hatched. No criminal case mind you. And I'm still not sure what any of it is claiming. If it eventually gets tossed, as many expect, she will already have pandered to per base to "get Trump" by simply filing and she is hopeful that helps her a win on election day.

Now those are the facts.....and I don't even really like Trump. I think the GOP can put forth a much better candidate. But this whole lawsuit is yet another get Trump farce.
 
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Bugsy McGurk

President
I've read it. I've read lots of analysis on it, too. I'll help you out since apparently you don't know what the suit says. It certainly contains inflammatory language intended to incite the masses. What it does not do, however, indicate who was defrauded and how. Banks give out loans after doing their own due diligence. If a borrower comes to them using property as collateral in order to obtain a loan then it's the bank's responsibility to determine if the loan request is appropriate based upon that value. The bank then either gives the loan or rejects it. I've heard the term predatory lending. This may be the first time in history it's been asserted that the borrower was preying on the bank.....especially considering there was no accusation of loan default. If a bank freely gives out a loan and the borrower pays it back in full plus interest it's an asinine assertion to say the bank was a victim or defrauded in any possible way. Every decent person should shun the though of even floating that idea.

And regarding inflating values of property for tax purposes.....well.....that makes no sense either. You'd want to suppress value of property in order to suppress tax burden. You certainly wouldn't want to increase it. And the whole thing regarding value is opinion anyways.

These are why no criminal charges were made. This is propaganda.
You asked a question. I told you the answer was in the complaint so you should read it. You then claimed you read the complaint but didn’t even answer your question. You just ranted.
 

RickWA

Senator
If you were a patriot you would join sane, patriotic Americans who condemn Trump’s fraud. But you’re not. You’re a Trump cultist.
Go ahead. Never stop. You dullards should continue to make your every post about Trump. Your moron hero pols (and elected DA’s ARE pols) should fixate on him and his family as their cities burn. I. Take. No. Exception.

Stop me if you’ve heard this: GO AHEAD.
 

Bugsy McGurk

President
Go ahead. Never stop. You dullards should continue to make your every post about Trump. Your moron hero pols (and elected DA’s ARE pols) should fixate on him and his family as their cities burn. I. Take. No. Exception.

Stop me if you’ve heard this: GO AHEAD.
Why would I mention Trump in response to your post about Trump in a thread about Trump?

;-)
 

Bugsy McGurk

President
I told you the "complaint" identified no one who had been defrauded. Yet, you are using the word "fraud". So I'll ask it again since YOU threw the term out. Who was defrauded and how?
Nope. It wasn’t ME who used the term fraud. It’s the COMPLAINT that uses the term fraud. Yet you say you read the Complaint and still can’t tell who was defrauded. Perhaps because you’re CLUELESS.

;-)
 
I told you the "complaint" identified no one who had been defrauded. Yet, you are using the word "fraud". So I'll ask it again since YOU threw the term out. Who was defrauded and how?
With your vast knowledge of real estate law perhaps you should join one of the many Trump “legal” teams. Just be sure to have a couple criminal lawyers on retainer before carrying out any of Donny’s orders. We all know he has done no wrong and bad leftists are just pickin on the poor guy. ROFL
 

Bugsy McGurk

President
As I said - “go ahead”. As I said - “continue”. What part of this is difficult for you?
The only difficult part is understanding why you’re yapping about mentioning Trump in response to your reference to Trump in a thread about Trump. You need to have your head examined.

;-)
 

RickWA

Senator
The only difficult part is understanding why you’re yapping about mentioning Trump in response to your reference to Trump in a thread about Trump. You need to have your head examined.

;-)
What I said was that the politicians should go ahead and continue to fixate on him, chasing him to the ends of the earth (while their cities burn)…you you lefties should continue making every post about “Trump!!!”.

That is rather straightforward…for normal people to understand.

So…”go ahead”…and…”continue”.
 

EatTheRich

President
I've read it. I've read lots of analysis on it, too. I'll help you out since apparently you don't know what the suit says. It certainly contains inflammatory language intended to incite the masses. What it does not do, however, indicate who was defrauded and how. Banks give out loans after doing their own due diligence. If a borrower comes to them using property as collateral in order to obtain a loan then it's the bank's responsibility to determine if the loan request is appropriate based upon that value. The bank then either gives the loan or rejects it. I've heard the term predatory lending. This may be the first time in history it's been asserted that the borrower was preying on the bank.....especially considering there was no accusation of loan default. If a bank freely gives out a loan and the borrower pays it back in full plus interest it's an asinine assertion to say the bank was a victim or defrauded in any possible way. Every decent person should shun the though of even floating that idea.

And regarding inflating values of property for tax purposes.....well.....that makes no sense either. You'd want to suppress value of property in order to suppress tax burden. You certainly wouldn't want to increase it. And the whole thing regarding value is opinion anyways.

These are why no criminal charges were made. This is propaganda.
That is exactly what he is accused of … deflating values for tax purposes. Even if this is the one time in his life he repaid his loans, which I doubt.
 
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