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NFL to play a (ahem) Black National Anthem before first week games.

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President
Trump is an imperfect vessel doing God's will. Fan? No. Realist? Yes. I am his supporter for as long as a majority of our interests coincide. They have and they do.

The world will be a better place when we deal with the lies. Lies like alleged systemic racism.
Let me answer those sentences in order.

WTF ?

You can't be serious

So you must hate America ?

And are only interested in satiating Trump's ego just like him then ?

Yes, and we have to deal with the liar Trump too.


 
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EatTheRich

President
We are reaping the rewards of Obama's grandiose statement that he was bringing "fundamental change" to America. And now we have communists running amuck.

You are a communist so you are running cover for that saying there is nothing to see here. It is all good. Bullshit. This is a problem that should have been nipped in the bud. The fact that there is no systemic racism is going to be pounded into the consciousness of America one way or the other.
There is systemic racism, obviously, since the only other possible explanation for the systematic disparity in outcomes is the discredited hypothesis of racial superiority/inferiority. Anyway, wth did Obama ever do to “fundamentally transform America”?
 
There is systemic racism, obviously, since the only other possible explanation for the systematic disparity in outcomes is the discredited hypothesis of racial superiority/inferiority. Anyway, wth did Obama ever do to “fundamentally transform America”?
Prove to me that law enforcement is systemically racist. Go.
 

EatTheRich

President
Prove to me that law enforcement is systemically racist. Go.
What makes it systemic is that the racism pervades almost every aspect of our lives. Racism in law enforcement (Blacks stopped and frisked at a higher rate even though whites who are searched are more likely to have contraband, Blacks disproportionately incarcerated for drugs although whites are more likely to use illegal drugs, Blacks much more likely to be killed by police, especially if the person killed is unarmed, killers of Blacks getting much stiffer sentences than killers of whites, mass rape of Native women going largely unpunished, etc.) goes hand in hand with racism in housing, racism in employment, etc.
 

condorkristy

Mostly Liberal
The Washington NFL franchise might be named the Washington George Floyd’s soon. Lol...The only reason the NFL owners are pandering to black Americans is because they are afraid that all of their players could quit and form their own league along with the best white players and put them out of business. Without the players, these owners are worthless. Free market economy at work. The players have all the leverage they need to enact any changes they desire. Poetic justice at work. Same with the NBA.
The pandering is ridiculous. As is your reason for the pandering. Its all about maximizing ROI. These measures help in that regard. The last thing they are worried about is the players forming their own league. For one thing, the contracts are fully enforceable and that doesn't remotely touch upon the monetary fallout from the loss of television revenue--ESPN/FOX/CBS/NBC are contracted to the NFL, not whatever offshoot would materialize in your fantasy land.
 
The pandering is ridiculous. As is your reason for the pandering. Its all about maximizing ROI. These measures help in that regard. The last thing they are worried about is the players forming their own league. For one thing, the contracts are fully enforceable and that doesn't remotely touch upon the monetary fallout from the loss of television revenue--ESPN/FOX/CBS/NBC are contracted to the NFL, not whatever offshoot would materialize in your fantasy land.
You‘d be surprised how much money is floating around out there champ. If the players decided to form their own league there would be several rich entrepreneurs willing to put together a league. However that’s not going to happen because the owners are willing to make token concessions in order to keep their cash cows. What they are conceding is quite reasonable and positive. I don’t see what the big deal is. Times are changing for the better and soon those people who were carping about Kapernick taking a knee will be way out of the mainstream where they belong.
 

Dawg

President
Supporting Member
What makes it systemic is that the racism pervades almost every aspect of our lives. Racism in law enforcement (Blacks stopped and frisked at a higher rate even though whites who are searched are more likely to have contraband, Blacks disproportionately incarcerated for drugs although whites are more likely to use illegal drugs, Blacks much more likely to be killed by police, especially if the person killed is unarmed, killers of Blacks getting much stiffer sentences than killers of whites, mass rape of Native women going largely unpunished, etc.) goes hand in hand with racism in housing, racism in employment, etc.
Stats prove all you posted a lie
 
What makes it systemic is that the racism pervades almost every aspect of our lives.
If you are of the left that is true.

Racism in law enforcement (Blacks stopped and frisked at a higher rate even though whites who are searched are more likely to have contraband,
Not true in NYC.

Blacks disproportionately incarcerated for drugs although whites are more likely to use illegal drugs,
Dealing and using are two different things.

Blacks much more likely to be killed by police, especially if the person killed is unarmed,
No, they aren't. Cops kill more whites than blacks (50 versus29%) Given blacks are more violent and criminal as measured by homicides and 911 calls you'd actually expect more blacks to be killed than actually are. And they aren't.

killers of Blacks getting much stiffer sentences than killers of whites,
How is this racist?

mass rape of Native women going largely unpunished, etc.)
Natives have their own justice system.

goes hand in hand with racism in housing, racism in employment, etc.
Yeah, no.
 

condorkristy

Mostly Liberal
You‘d be surprised how much money is floating around out there champ. If the players decided to form their own league there would be several rich entrepreneurs willing to put together a league.
Like they did with the USFL. Like they did with the XFL. Like they did with the Arena League.

How did that work out?

However that’s not going to happen because the owners are willing to make token concessions in order to keep their cash cows. What they are conceding is quite reasonable and positive. I don’t see what the big deal is. Times are changing for the better and soon those people who were carping about Kapernick taking a knee will be way out of the mainstream where they belong.
The pandering (or concessions as you put it) are ridiculous. But in truth, they only affect the in-stadium crowd. In most cases, the television network broadcasting the games do not show the Star Spangled Banner any longer due to the controversy.
 
The Washington NFL franchise might be named the Washington George Floyd’s soon. Lol...The only reason the NFL owners are pandering to black Americans is because they are afraid that all of their players could quit and form their own league along with the best white players and put them out of business. Without the players, these owners are worthless. Free market economy at work. The players have all the leverage they need to enact any changes they desire. Poetic justice at work. Same with the NBA.
I say make the owners sell their franchise to black owners (make the black players pool their money to buy out the white owners). Make it a law for reparations sake. Basketball too.

PUT IT UNDER SOME WHITE V. BLACK ANTI-MONOPOLY LAW. ha ha

I'd love to see that. I'd even send some cash to a gofundme to get'er done.
 

Corruptbuddha

Governor
“Donald Trump is the first President in my lifetime who does not try to unite the American people—does not even pretend to try.”-James Mattis
We’re not talking about whether or not attempts to unite us. We’re talking about whether he actually tries to divide us. And he does not. The division we’re seeing now is the sole responsibility of the Democrat party.
 

EatTheRich

President
If you are of the left that is true.
It’s true of the U.S. generally.

Not true in NYC.
Yes, it is.


Dealing and using are two different things.
Blacks are more likely to be arrested for possession too. And social incentives systematically push the dealing toward Black-majority neighborhoods.

No, they aren't. Cops kill more whites than blacks (50 versus29%)
So killings of whites outnumber killings of Blacks less than 2 to 1, whereas if one race wasn’t more likely to be killed, killings of whites would outnumber killings of Blacks by the more than 4 to 1 population disparity.

Given blacks are more violent and criminal as measured by homicides and 911 calls you'd actually expect more blacks to be killed than actually are. And they aren't.
Large numbers of those killed aren’t violent or criminals. The idea that innocent Blacks somehow deserve to die because of the criminal violence of others of the same race is deeply rooted in white supremacy.

How is this racist?
I realize my statement was inaccurate. What I meant, and what is true in reality, is that killers of whites get much more severe punishment than killers of Blacks. It is racist because it shows that the justice system considers white life more valuable.

Natives have their own justice system.
As part of the white-supremacist system that saw them dispossessed of their land.

Yeah, no.
Sociologists say otherwise.
 

EatTheRich

President
We’re not talking about whether or not attempts to unite us. We’re talking about whether he actually tries to divide us. And he does not. The division we’re seeing now is the sole responsibility of the Democrat party.
Well, he launched his campaign with xenophobic attacks against Mexican immigrants. After raising his political profile by spreading an unfounded racist conspiracy theory about Obama. He just sent a tweet calling for the death of members of the opposition party.
 

Raoul_Luke

I feel a bit lightheaded. Maybe you should drive.
No, blacks are not like red necks or boozers. Those were examples of how people use the term the "x" national anthem, not meaning it litterally.

Are you pulling my leg or do you really not understand this stuff?

Sorry for projecting but you honestly come across as someone who is afraid of this stuff.
What could possibly "scary" about this laughable and meaningless virtue signalling by the NFL (no fun league)? Just because you desire that your opponents live in fear of your awesome political power does not mean that we do - I assure you. But if it makes you feel better to think you are "terrorizing" me, well, please go right on with your bad self. Glad I could help you out with that.

As for whether or not you believe Blacks are like red necks or boozers, you made the comparison, not me. Maybe you don't understand how debating works - you say something and it's up to you to defend it. It certainly seemed like you were drawing a clear comparison.

I understand this stuff just fine. Giving the Black players their own "national anthem" smacks of neo-segregationism. And if your goal is to bring us together, this is pretty much the last thing you would do.
 
Like they did with the USFL. Like they did with the XFL. Like they did with the Arena League.

How did that work out?



The pandering (or concessions as you put it) are ridiculous. But in truth, they only affect the in-stadium crowd. In most cases, the television network broadcasting the games do not show the Star Spangled Banner any longer due to the controversy.
Ever hear of the AFL?
 

Corruptbuddha

Governor
Well, he launched his campaign with xenophobic attacks against Mexican immigrants. After raising his political profile by spreading an unfounded racist conspiracy theory about Obama. He just sent a tweet calling for the death of members of the opposition party.
While we agree he was a birther. We disagree on his campaign start. What you call xenophobic, I call protecting American sovereignty. And he’s never called for death of opposing party members.
 

EatTheRich

President
While we agree he was a birther. We disagree on his campaign start. What you call xenophobic, I call protecting American sovereignty. And he’s never called for death of opposing party members.

What does scapegoating Mexican-Americans have to do with “protecting American sovereignty”? How exactly is it any different from if he had made the same comments about British or German immigrants?
 

FakeName

Governor
What could possibly "scary" about this laughable and meaningless virtue signalling by the NFL (no fun league)? Just because you desire that your opponents live in fear of your awesome political power does not mean that we do - I assure you. But if it makes you feel better to think you are "terrorizing" me, well, please go right on with your bad self. Glad I could help you out with that.

As for whether or not you believe Blacks are like red necks or boozers, you made the comparison, not me. Maybe you don't understand how debating works - you say something and it's up to you to defend it. It certainly seemed like you were drawing a clear comparison.

I understand this stuff just fine. Giving the Black players their own "national anthem" smacks of neo-segregationism. And if your goal is to bring us together, this is pretty much the last thing you would do.
No, I did not compare blacks to boozers and rednecks. I explained that too you even though it should have been obvious.

And now you are projecting, right on the heels of criticizing me for projecting.
 

Dawg

President
Supporting Member
Well, he launched his campaign with xenophobic attacks against Mexican immigrants. After raising his political profile by spreading an unfounded racist conspiracy theory about Obama. He just sent a tweet calling for the death of members of the opposition party.
Not all illegals are Mexicans
actually illegals coming from all over the world
libs post how back America is and illegals are
dying to get here
 
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