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No courage to control guns, including under this administration

Point every which way. This administration, too.

It's a mental health issue. We should be questioning everyone that posts or menaces with guns.
They want to control guns rather than the nut cases that use them in a bad way. This kid wears eye liner and was bullied in school. That is someone that needs to be watched. He should not have been allowed to purchase guns.
 
Should those "things" that happen in Chicago be labeled under mental health issues too?

Now you'll try to have your cake and eat it too, just watch.
You will need ask Joe Biden, Al Sharpton and BLM about that, they do a LOT of work in Chicago addressing the high numbers of murders they have there every summer. I can't tell you how many times I have turned on the TV and seen BLM rallies in Chicago in the neighborhoods that are most affected....

The work they do, let me detail that work for you below:


























Thank you.
 

Bernard_Fokke

Captain Fokke
Supporting Member
Point every which way. This administration, too.

It's a mental health issue. We should be questioning everyone that posts or menaces with guns.
Exactly, an 18 year old high school kid what went wrong, were there signs, who knew and refused to take action.

Did this one also behead the family cat?

Were laws broken with how he got the weapon?

Everyone is rushing to judgment with few facts, this is a tragedy beyond words. Just like Ukraine.

But it gives the agenda driven crowd a great opportunity to trumpet thie socialist liberalism agenda.
 

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Senator
You will need ask Joe Biden, Al Sharpton and BLM about that, they do a LOT of work in Chicago addressing the High numbers of murders they have there every summer. I can't tell you how many times I have turned on the TV and seen BLM rallies in Chicago in the neighborhoods that are most affected....

The work they do, let me detail that work for you below:


























Thank you.
As I predicted.

I'm asking you, not them.

Got an answer to my direct question?

Should those "things" that happen in Chicago be labeled under mental health issues too?
 

PhilFish

Administrator
Staff member
Yet you won't come clean and admit which party that has been trying to pass legislation over the years- which is always defeated by both state and U.S. congress- that can help prevent the slaughter that continues to happen.
Democrat. Why can't you admit the same as far as which parties are responsible in texas?
 

PhilFish

Administrator
Staff member
You do know. It’s because Republicans have always blocked sensible gun control measures. They still do.
No, what I do know is what I presented in the link which is a substantive number of Democrats also voted for this change in legislation which in turn resulted in this individual being able to purchase rifles on his 18th birthday.
 

PhilFish

Administrator
Staff member
They want to control guns rather than the nut cases that use them in a bad way. This kid wears eye liner and was bullied in school. That is someone that needs to be watched. He should not have been allowed to purchase guns.
This guy apparently was instagramming friends and warning them of what was coming, none of whom saw fit to raise it to some responsible person's attention? Oh and by the way a sizable number of Democrats in Texas voted for the legislation that allowed this individual to purchase the rifles with which he killed all of these Innocents. Not just Republicans but Republicans and Democrats
 

PhilFish

Administrator
Staff member
Exactly, an 18 year old High school kid what went wrong, were there signs, who knew and refused to take action.

Did this one also behead the family cat?

Were laws broken with how he got the weapon?

Everyone is rushing to judgment with few facts, this is a tragedy beyond words. Just like Ukraine.

But it gives the agenda driven crowd a great opportunity to trumpet thie socialist liberalism agenda.
Precisely. And as always everybody wants to run their mouth but ultimately do nothing. But as an aside let us take note that the legislation that was passed in Texas last year was voted on by Democrats and Republicans alike in favor of changing the age the 18. So all the mouth runners that are pointing only at Republicans can shut up now
 
As I predicted.

I'm asking you, not them.

Got an answer to my direct question?

Should those "things" that happen in Chicago be labeled under mental health issues too?
You're pretending to have a direct question, you are actually making a statement. As usual a stupid one.
 

Bugsy McGurk

President
No, what I do know is what I presented in the link which is a substantive number of Democrats also voted for this change in legislation which in turn resulted in this individual being able to purchase rifles on his 18th birthday.
Sure, red state Dems sometimes vote for such state legislation, which is why we need federal gun control legislation. Which is always blocked by the GOP.
 

PhilFish

Administrator
Staff member
Sure, red state Dems sometimes vote for such state legislation, which is why we need federal gun control legislation. Which is always blocked by the GOP.
I agree with you in that Texas Democrats and Republicans are responsible for this senseless slaughter by enabling this 18-year-old to buy weapons on his birthday. I also agree with you that although the Democrats control everything federally, Biden has already run his mouth so that's about the extent of effort that we shall see. I concur
 

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Senator
Democrat. Why can't you admit the same as far as which parties are responsible in texas?
Thanks for admitting that it's Democrats that have long tried to pass sensible legislation in trying to stop the carnage that is happening almost weekly,

Yes, I'll admit that some Democrats votes were wrong in Texas, but we're talking about legislation that Republicans continue to fight and kill in the U.S. Congress- mainly the Senate where they're greased by lobbyists and their greed, specifically by the NRA,

Will you admit that fact?
 

PhilFish

Administrator
Staff member
Thanks for admitting that it's Democrats that have long tried to pass sensible legislation in trying to stop the carnage that is happening almost weekly,

Yes, I'll admit that some Democrats votes were wrong in Texas, but we're talking about legislation that Republicans continue to fight and kill in the U.S. Congress- mainly the Senate where they're greased by lobbyists and their greed, specifically by the NRA,

Will you admit that fact?
Well if we're talking admissions, then let's admit that we have some pretty sensible gun control legislation that's out there today, in that not everybody can simply walk in and buy a long rifle without some scrutiny. And let's also admit that we're talking about legislation that the Democrats are willing to run their mouth on incessantly but won't step up and put up the necessary fight to get it through
 

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Senator
I agree with you in that Texas Democrats and Republicans are responsible for this senseless slaughter by enabling this 18-year-old to buy weapons on his birthday. I also agree with you that although the Democrats control everything federally, Biden has already run his mouth so that's about the extent of effort that we shall see. I concur
That's false. Democrats don't control everything federally and you know it.

Since you ride the fence on this specific issue, do you think the filibuster should be voted down to get sensible gun legislation passed?
 

Bugsy McGurk

President
I agree with you in that Texas Democrats and Republicans are responsible for this senseless slaughter by enabling this 18-year-old to buy weapons on his birthday. I also agree with you that although the Democrats control everything federally, Biden has already run his mouth so that's about the extent of effort that we shall see. I concur
Now you’re pretending that federal gun control legislation can survive the Senate filibuster by Republicans. I’m sure you know that Dems literally beg Republicans to support reasonable gun control measures, to no avail.
 

PhilFish

Administrator
Staff member
That's false. Democrats don't control everything federally and you know it.

Since you ride the fence on this specific issue, do you think the filibuster should be voted down to get sensible gun legislation passed?
i dont ride the fence. i'm clear all over this thread. sensible legislation exists, they should be stricter. scrutiny should be stricter still.

now what?
 

PhilFish

Administrator
Staff member
Now you’re pretending that federal gun control legislation can survive the Senate filibuster by Republicans. I’m sure you know that Dems literally beg Republicans to support reasonable gun control measures, to no avail.
reasonable gun control measures exist.

we should scrutinize the infirm of mind...
 

Bernard_Fokke

Captain Fokke
Supporting Member
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Precisely. And as always everybody wants to run their mouth but ultimately do nothing. But as an aside let us take note that the legislation that was passed in Texas last year was voted on by Democrats and Republicans alike in favor of changing the age the 18. So all the mouth runners that are pointing only at Republicans can shut up now
This link gives a little more info on the shooter, he was a hot mess, may he roast in hell.
Seems again there were warning signs tha were ignored like with the last shooter and Adam lanza there's quite a list of examples all ignored.

 
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