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occupy national gathering june 30 - july 4, 2012

WhistleBlower

Council Member
back to plan b, i guess.


Occupy National Gathering

June 30th – July 4th
Philadelphia, PA

The occupy national gathering, implemented through a horizontal, democratic and transparent process and endorsed by almost 60 occupations across the country, will allow us to strategically plan for the coming year, work on a vision for the future, and most importantly build relationships and skills that will allow us to strengthen our ties as a movement!

Listen to speakers such as

Rolling Stone’s Matt Taibbi,
Rosanne Bar,
Rev. Billy and the Gospel Choir from the Church of Stop Shopping,
Julie Matthaei,
Captain Ray Lewis,
Alexis Goldstein,
Victoria Grant and
David Gespass the President of the NLG,
and many others.

Bring your skills, talents and passions to share with the wider movement during open space for Occupiers, organizations and individuals. Trainings about sustainable organizing, strategic action development, anti-oppression, media, national coordination, affinity groups, tech tools and many more topics are already in the works!

Join strategic conversations with those working on similar issues

Participate in Actions with occupiers and allies from across the country

On July 4th, participate in a process designed to collectively craft a vision for a democratic future with both those present and participating virtually
 

gabriel

Governor
i have dreamt about a chance to learn about SUSTAINABLE (my fave buzzword right now) ORGANIZING from someone with the credentials of ROSEANNE BARR!!!??? lol
 

gabriel

Governor
wow! she acted in sitcoms and declared a candidacy!! lol. now thats some heavy sh8t! lol. no wonder she can hold herself up as a spokesman for economic revoluton!! lol
 

WhistleBlower

Council Member
she's running for prime minister of israel, too.

your credentials, please?

your spouting off about everything and everybody is meaningless unless you can show us some reason for believing your authority. (Edit)
 

gabriel

Governor
us??? lol. dream on little man. now tell me again how your opinion of my credentials is important??
 

WhistleBlower

Council Member
tell me again how your opinion is important and why i should trust yours over roseanne barr's?

at least she cites her sources when she makes claims about what 'many scientists' think. :rolleyes:
 

WhistleBlower

Council Member
you want to impress me with your superior knowledge, yet you refuse to cite any authorities or validate your competence to make the claims that you make.

there's something wrong with that picture that if you fail to see it, i can assure you that there are numerous people around this bullshit barn who don't.
 

Minotaur

Governor
Most people do lean both ways when it comes to specific issues so that is interesting to know. With Independents you always have to ask because we are a odd lot in terms of politics. I am strongly left on most issues and slightly right on some in terms of Fiscal but in reality my own view of my fiscal conservatism is more in line with Where like-money is best spent and that brings me back to left. ;)

A conservative may say XXX money's should be spent on military where I say the same amount of money is better spent in investing in people and America.
 

WhistleBlower

Council Member
thanks for your comment, min.

independents aren't going to buy into anybody's agenda lock, stock and barrel. we're simply not true believers who have been turned into jingo spewing winger zombies. to be sure nobody misunderstands me, when i say winger, it's both wings i'm trying to clip. the proper solutions lie somewhere in the middle of the heap.

i grew up in chicago's notorious 44th ward, the lakeview district, the only truly integrated neighborhood in town where even the mixed race couples and gays lived when it was still dangerous to be that way in public.

the administration of the daley machine worked toward implementing programs that were going to do the greatest good for the greatest number in the most cost efficient manner achievable, with the least negative impact on anybody's personal or property rights. in my hood , we had the interests of the very rich and very poor and every race and religion to deal with and the alderman was our neighbor.

richard j daley ran a system that worked for the people, with the people. the usurpers of the american way, his son michael included, are working for their own personal advancement with little or no regard for the true needs or wants of the people and the environment. they meet in secret and spring legislation on us without public hearing or referendum. they suppress knowledge of what they're doing all the time. who here has even heard of the trans-pacific partnership negotiations going on? (TPP)
 

ya-ta-hey

Mayor
Mr. Whistle,

So you say they are even worse losers with no lives that they don't have better things to do on a holiday than stand out in the sun hoping someone will notice?
 

WhistleBlower

Council Member
mr. yth,

the dineh people i know are not so aggressive or rude. certainly not any of the traditionals and i don't know any of the anglicized city folk who use a lot of alcohol and ask rude questions like that.

this is not a simple demonstration of people picketing. it's a civic event planned by civic minded people from all walks of life and from all over texas that will include speakers, workshops and food. it will be followed by a concert and fireworks on the riverfront. who are these losers you were referring to?

what will you be doing tomorrow?
 
you might find me to the left of center on some things and to the right on others. i come from a military-industrialist family and favor mandatory civil service which is probably on the right.

i have some problems with ownership rights and the way some people have taken control of resources that rightfully belong to everybody and sell them to us. i believe that if wealth was distributed more fairly, everybody in the world could be guaranteed minimum living standards and no upper limit to what they could obtain. that would probably be considered leftist.

thanks for asking.
So you're left of center, thanks for clearing that up.






Forward with the Panhandler-in-Chief
 

WhistleBlower

Council Member
So you're left of center, thanks for clearing that up.



Forward with the Panhandler-in-Chief

since you seem to want to put me in a bag, probably to taunt me with when you find yourself intellectually incompetent to refute an argument any other way, you probably should know that i'm a girlie guy, too.

i said that you could find me on either side of the center stripe depending on the issue. why do you then declare that i'm left of center, as if that should make any difference to a rational person who isn't mentally impaired by hate and prejudice?
 

gabriel

Governor
lol! heres the guy that claims to want polite discussion , and when a guy politely makes his opinion known, proceeds to call him intellectually incompetent right off that bat!! hahaahahahahaahahahahaahahah
 
since you seem to want to put me in a bag, probably to taunt me with when you find yourself intellectually incompetent to refute an argument any other way, you probably should know that i'm a girlie guy, too.

i said that you could find me on either side of the center stripe depending on the issue. why do you then declare that i'm left of center, as if that should make any difference to a rational person who isn't mentally impaired by hate and prejudice?
You put yourself in a bag, not I and I never suggested that you are a girly guy, again that was you. I merely commented on what you posted. I have no bone to pick with you, so if you have a problem on me commenting on what you post, than I would say that is you that has the probelm.






Forward with the Panhandler-in-Chief
 

WhistleBlower

Council Member
apparently, the girlie man remark was aimed at somebody else, but i am transgendered and am not at all like any transgendered person you are likely to have seen on jerry springer or on a porno page. i live in stealth and have never outwardly displayed my female spirit. it's only in the past few years that i've even been able to talk about it openly in public, especially online where there are so many ignorant, vile people who will pick up on something like that and rub my nose with it every time they respond to me.

as for left or right leaning, i'm going to say it again and keep saying it until it sinks in: go down the left or the right side and you sheeple are all ending up in the same slaughterhouse anyway.

i do not ascribe to anybody's agenda, left or right and make my decisions on a per issue basis.

i certainly don't care to get into a lot of angry back and forth with anybody over anything. state your case. i'll state mine and we'll either agree or agree to disagree. i do not feel the need to go to the lengths that some people will to demonstrate the superiority of their unfounded conjecture over the facts presented from documents and get all personal to do it. i don't like when it happens to me or anybody else.

if you can't be civil, leave me out of it, please.
 
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