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One way or the other anti-vaxxers

If a person is threatened with losing his job, THAT IS VACCINATION WITHOUT CONSENT.
It would be the same thing if I threatened to take away your welfare benefits if you refused to vax.
Such entitlement. You aren't entitled to any job. If you are threatening the safety of customers by running around unvaxxed you deserve to get fired.
 
It is.

Only a fool would think that when a vaccine takes ordinarily 7-12 years to get approval one can possibly be approved in under a years time. The long term side effects of a vaccine can't be compressed in time. That is not the lone issue though making it still an experimental emergency use product.
It is logically flawed to assume that the "ordinary" way means its only way to do something.
 

God of War

Governor
It is logically flawed to assume that the "ordinary" way means its only way to do something.
The ordinary way allows the system to see the long term effects of a medication. What happens to someone say 3 or 4 years AFTER having their ass vaccinated. You can't compress that in time.
 

Raoul_Luke

I feel a bit lightheaded. Maybe you should drive.
That would be a lie. Why so dishonest?
Pardon us if we defer to more knowledgeable (you know) actual scientists on that:

The current expansion in prevalence of infectious Sars-CoV-2 variants is highly problematic because it erodes natural Ab-based, variant-nonspecific immunity in the non-vaccinated part of the population. The high infectivity rate that results from this expansion not only further enhances the expansion of these variants but may also drive natural selection of viral variants that are featured by an even higher level of infectiousness. Erosion, therefore, of natural Ab-based, variant-nonspecific immunity promotes breeding and transmission of more infectious viral variants in the non-vaccinated part of the population. On the other hand, mass vaccination promotes natural selection of increasingly vaccine immunity (VI)-escaping variants in the vaccinated part of the population. Taken together, mass vaccination conducted on a background of high infectivity rates enables more infectious, increasingly VI-escaping variants to expand in prevalence. This evolution inevitably results in inclining morbidity rates in both, the non-vaccinated and vaccinated population and precipitates the emergence of circulating viral variants that will eventually fully resist vaccine-mediated immunity (VMI). This is why mass vaccination campaigns should not be conducted during a pandemic of a highly mutable virus, let alone during a pandemic of more infectious variants (unless transmission-blocking vaccines are used!).

A last word of caution to all those pretending the Covid-19 pandemic is toning down (geertvandenbossche.org)
 
Pardon us if we defer to more knowledgeable (you know) actual scientists on that:

The current expansion in prevalence of infectious Sars-CoV-2 variants is highly problematic because it erodes natural Ab-based, variant-nonspecific immunity in the non-vaccinated part of the population. The high infectivity rate that results from this expansion not only further enhances the expansion of these variants but may also drive natural selection of viral variants that are featured by an even higher level of infectiousness. Erosion, therefore, of natural Ab-based, variant-nonspecific immunity promotes breeding and transmission of more infectious viral variants in the non-vaccinated part of the population. On the other hand, mass vaccination promotes natural selection of increasingly vaccine immunity (VI)-escaping variants in the vaccinated part of the population. Taken together, mass vaccination conducted on a background of high infectivity rates enables more infectious, increasingly VI-escaping variants to expand in prevalence. This evolution inevitably results in inclining morbidity rates in both, the non-vaccinated and vaccinated population and precipitates the emergence of circulating viral variants that will eventually fully resist vaccine-mediated immunity (VMI). This is why mass vaccination campaigns should not be conducted during a pandemic of a highly mutable virus, let alone during a pandemic of more infectious variants (unless transmission-blocking vaccines are used!).

A last word of caution to all those pretending the Covid-19 pandemic is toning down (geertvandenbossche.org)
Are you gullible enough to believe that misinformation?
Or do you knkw it's misinformation? And you spread it anyway? Which would make a liar.

Either way, you must love the pandemic because you are trying to prolong it.
 

PNWest

America's BEST American: Impartial and Bipartisan
Pardon us if we defer to more knowledgeable (you know) actual scientists on that:

The current expansion in prevalence of infectious Sars-CoV-2 variants is highly problematic because it erodes natural Ab-based, variant-nonspecific immunity in the non-vaccinated part of the population. The high infectivity rate that results from this expansion not only further enhances the expansion of these variants but may also drive natural selection of viral variants that are featured by an even higher level of infectiousness. Erosion, therefore, of natural Ab-based, variant-nonspecific immunity promotes breeding and transmission of more infectious viral variants in the non-vaccinated part of the population. On the other hand, mass vaccination promotes natural selection of increasingly vaccine immunity (VI)-escaping variants in the vaccinated part of the population. Taken together, mass vaccination conducted on a background of high infectivity rates enables more infectious, increasingly VI-escaping variants to expand in prevalence. This evolution inevitably results in inclining morbidity rates in both, the non-vaccinated and vaccinated population and precipitates the emergence of circulating viral variants that will eventually fully resist vaccine-mediated immunity (VMI). This is why mass vaccination campaigns should not be conducted during a pandemic of a highly mutable virus, let alone during a pandemic of more infectious variants (unless transmission-blocking vaccines are used!).

A last word of caution to all those pretending the Covid-19 pandemic is toning down (geertvandenbossche.org)

Geert Vanden Bossche (DVM, PhD) --- you do know the the DVM stands for Doctor of Veterinary Medicine don't you? Maybe he can prescribe some Horse Paste for you. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Here's some info on the good Doctor....




And you wonder why liberals think that people that believe this shit are willfully ignorant.

But hey - thanks for the new link for my list.
 

Raoul_Luke

I feel a bit lightheaded. Maybe you should drive.
Geert Vanden Bossche (DVM, PhD) --- you do know the the DVM stands for Doctor of Veterinary Medicine don't you? Maybe he can prescribe some Horse Paste for you. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Here's some info on the good Doctor....




And you wonder why liberals think that people that believe this shit are willfully ignorant.

But hey - thanks for the new link for my list.
You DO know that a lot of medical researchers are veterinarians, right? The guy is a widely recognized and world-renowned expert in virology. By the way, your little "list" has as much validity as you possess credibility, which is to say (obviously) less than none.
 

Raoul_Luke

I feel a bit lightheaded. Maybe you should drive.
Geert Vanden Bossche (DVM, PhD) --- you do know the the DVM stands for Doctor of Veterinary Medicine don't you? Maybe he can prescribe some Horse Paste for you. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Here's some info on the good Doctor....




And you wonder why liberals think that people that believe this shit are willfully ignorant.

But hey - thanks for the new link for my list.
Geert Vanden Bossche received his DVM from the University of Ghent, Belgium, and his PhD degree in Virology from the University of Hohenheim, Germany. He held adjunct faculty appointments at universities in Belgium and Germany. After his career in Academia, Geert joined several vaccine companies (GSK Biologicals, Novartis Vaccines, Solvay Biologicals) to serve various roles in vaccine R&D as well as in late vaccine development. Geert then moved on to join the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation’s Global Health Discovery team in Seattle (USA) as Senior Program Officer; he then worked with the Global Alliance for Vaccines and Immunization (GAVI) in Geneva as Senior Ebola Program Manager. At GAVI he tracked efforts to develop an Ebola vaccine. He also represented GAVI in fora with other partners, including WHO, to review progress on the fight against Ebola and to build plans for global pandemic preparedness. Back in 2015, Geert scrutinized and questioned the safety of the Ebola vaccine that was used in ring vaccination trials conducted by WHO in Guinea. His critical scientific analysis and report on the data published by WHO in the Lancet in 2015 was sent to all international health and regulatory authorities involved in the Ebola vaccination program. After working for GAVI, Geert joined the German Center for Infection Research in Cologne as Head of the Vaccine Development Office. He is at present primarily serving as a Biotech/ Vaccine consultant while also conducting his own research on Natural Killer cell-based vaccines.

Yeah, the guy is obviously a quack. Who would listen to that clown over the likes of "experts" like @PNWest - amirite?
 

PNWest

America's BEST American: Impartial and Bipartisan
Geert Vanden Bossche received his DVM from the University of Ghent, Belgium, and his PhD degree in Virology from the University of Hohenheim, Germany. He held adjunct faculty appointments at universities in Belgium and Germany. After his career in Academia, Geert joined several vaccine companies (GSK Biologicals, Novartis Vaccines, Solvay Biologicals) to serve various roles in vaccine R&D as well as in late vaccine development. Geert then moved on to join the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation’s Global Health Discovery team in Seattle (USA) as Senior Program Officer; he then worked with the Global Alliance for Vaccines and Immunization (GAVI) in Geneva as Senior Ebola Program Manager. At GAVI he tracked efforts to develop an Ebola vaccine. He also represented GAVI in fora with other partners, including WHO, to review progress on the fight against Ebola and to build plans for global pandemic preparedness. Back in 2015, Geert scrutinized and questioned the safety of the Ebola vaccine that was used in ring vaccination trials conducted by WHO in Guinea. His critical scientific analysis and report on the data published by WHO in the Lancet in 2015 was sent to all international health and regulatory authorities involved in the Ebola vaccination program. After working for GAVI, Geert joined the German Center for Infection Research in Cologne as Head of the Vaccine Development Office. He is at present primarily serving as a Biotech/ Vaccine consultant while also conducting his own research on Natural Killer cell-based vaccines.

Yeah, the guy is obviously a quack. Who would listen to that clown over the likes of "experts" like @PNWest - amirite?

@PNWest doesn't try to pass himself off as an expert. Read the discredidation about this quack. There's a reason he's posting on his very own .org website. Legitimate medical websites won't touch his shit.
 

Dawg

President
Supporting Member
You DO know that a lot of medical researchers are veterinarians, right? The guy is a widely recognized and world-renowned expert in virology. By the way, your little "list" has as much validity as you possess credibility, which is to say (obviously) less than none.
Leftist forget animals are used for research before humans
Until Now
 

Raoul_Luke

I feel a bit lightheaded. Maybe you should drive.
@PNWest doesn't try to pass himself off as an expert. Read the discredidation about this quack. There's a reason he's posting on his very own .org website. Legitimate medical websites won't touch his shit.
People who refer to themselves in the third person are clownishly strange:

Every time they say the word "Jimmy" on Seinfeld S6 Ep 19 "The Jimmy" - YouTube

So it doesn't surprise me in the least to find you doing it.

You must be joking here as you purport to be an "expert" on what sources are "acceptable" in nearly every single post you make.

Perhaps you are so deranged that you don't even realize that fact, which, again, doesn't surprise me.

As for the "discredidations" of Vanden Bossche, let's take a look at the "credentials" of the people you linked to who are taking issue with his theory wrt the coronavirus vaccines:

1. Robert is a Founder of Medika Life. He is a published author and owner of Cre8tive Digital Media. He lives between the Philippines and the UK. and is an outspoken advocate for human rights. Access to basic healthcare and eradicating racial and gender bias in medicine are key motivators behind the Medika website and reflect Robert's passion for accessible medical care globally.

LOL! Yes, now there's an "expert" on vaccine biology (chortle).

2. Jonathan Jarry is a biological scientist who once worked for the U.S. Armed Forces, using the power of DNA technology to identify really old American soldiers. He has also helped to characterize a new form of muscular dystrophy and spent many years in a clinical laboratory, designing assays and managing rapid-turnover diagnostic tests which allow physicians to make informed decisions regarding cancer patient care. Armed with a Bachelor’s degree in Biochemistry and a Master’s degree in Molecular Biology, he has managed a centralized biobank of human tissue, has helped conduct research into low vision rehabilitation research and has published a paper on why the emerging field of circulating microRNAs in oncology was full of inconsistencies.

LOL! He "once worked for the U.S. Armed Services, using the power of DNA technology to identify 'really old' American soldiers? Clear the decks - a "masters" prepared "expert" is coming through to "discredit" this guy:

Geert Vanden Bossche received his DVM from the University of Ghent, Belgium, and his PhD degree in Virology from the University of Hohenheim, Germany. He held adjunct faculty appointments at universities in Belgium and Germany. After his career in Academia, Geert joined several vaccine companies (GSK Biologicals, Novartis Vaccines, Solvay Biologicals) to serve various roles in vaccine R&D as well as in late vaccine development. Geert then moved on to join the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation’s Global Health Discovery team in Seattle (USA) as Senior Program Officer; he then worked with the Global Alliance for Vaccines and Immunization (GAVI) in Geneva as Senior Ebola Program Manager. At GAVI he tracked efforts to develop an Ebola vaccine. He also represented GAVI in fora with other partners, including WHO, to review progress on the fight against Ebola and to build plans for global pandemic preparedness. Back in 2015, Geert scrutinized and questioned the safety of the Ebola vaccine that was used in ring vaccination trials conducted by WHO in Guinea. His critical scientific analysis and report on the data published by WHO in the Lancet in 2015 was sent to all international health and regulatory authorities involved in the Ebola vaccination program. After working for GAVI, Geert joined the German Center for Infection Research in Cologne as Head of the Vaccine Development Office. He is at present primarily serving as a Biotech/ Vaccine consultant while also conducting his own research on Natural Killer cell-based vaccines.

This is really humorous - did you think you had found intellectual equals of Vanden Bossche who were deconstructing his theories? That is hilarious! Let me say this about that - you didn't really have to tell us that you "are not an expert." Your every post positively reeks with the stench of shitty propaganda.
 

PNWest

America's BEST American: Impartial and Bipartisan
People who refer to themselves in the third person are clownishly strange:

Every time they say the word "Jimmy" on Seinfeld S6 Ep 19 "The Jimmy" - YouTube

So it doesn't surprise me in the least to find you doing it.

You must be joking here as you purport to be an "expert" on what sources are "acceptable" in nearly every single post you make.

Perhaps you are so deranged that you don't even realize that fact, which, again, doesn't surprise me.

As for the "discredidations" of Vanden Bossche, let's take a look at the "credentials" of the people you linked to who are taking issue with his theory wrt the coronavirus vaccines:

1. Robert is a Founder of Medika Life. He is a published author and owner of Cre8tive Digital Media. He lives between the Philippines and the UK. and is an outspoken advocate for human rights. Access to basic healthcare and eradicating racial and gender bias in medicine are key motivators behind the Medika website and reflect Robert's passion for accessible medical care globally.

LOL! Yes, now there's an "expert" on vaccine biology (chortle).

2. Jonathan Jarry is a biological scientist who once worked for the U.S. Armed Forces, using the power of DNA technology to identify really old American soldiers. He has also helped to characterize a new form of muscular dystrophy and spent many years in a clinical laboratory, designing assays and managing rapid-turnover diagnostic tests which allow physicians to make informed decisions regarding cancer patient care. Armed with a Bachelor’s degree in Biochemistry and a Master’s degree in Molecular Biology, he has managed a centralized biobank of human tissue, has helped conduct research into low vision rehabilitation research and has published a paper on why the emerging field of circulating microRNAs in oncology was full of inconsistencies.

LOL! He "once worked for the U.S. Armed Services, using the power of DNA technology to identify 'really old' American soldiers? Clear the decks - a "masters" prepared "expert" is coming through to "discredit" this guy:

Geert Vanden Bossche received his DVM from the University of Ghent, Belgium, and his PhD degree in Virology from the University of Hohenheim, Germany. He held adjunct faculty appointments at universities in Belgium and Germany. After his career in Academia, Geert joined several vaccine companies (GSK Biologicals, Novartis Vaccines, Solvay Biologicals) to serve various roles in vaccine R&D as well as in late vaccine development. Geert then moved on to join the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation’s Global Health Discovery team in Seattle (USA) as Senior Program Officer; he then worked with the Global Alliance for Vaccines and Immunization (GAVI) in Geneva as Senior Ebola Program Manager. At GAVI he tracked efforts to develop an Ebola vaccine. He also represented GAVI in fora with other partners, including WHO, to review progress on the fight against Ebola and to build plans for global pandemic preparedness. Back in 2015, Geert scrutinized and questioned the safety of the Ebola vaccine that was used in ring vaccination trials conducted by WHO in Guinea. His critical scientific analysis and report on the data published by WHO in the Lancet in 2015 was sent to all international health and regulatory authorities involved in the Ebola vaccination program. After working for GAVI, Geert joined the German Center for Infection Research in Cologne as Head of the Vaccine Development Office. He is at present primarily serving as a Biotech/ Vaccine consultant while also conducting his own research on Natural Killer cell-based vaccines.

This is really humorous - did you think you had found intellectual equals of Vanden Bossche who were deconstructing his theories? That is hilarious! Let me say this about that - you didn't really have to tell us that you "are not an expert." Your every post positively reeks with the stench of shitty propaganda.
The people you are commenting on are the journalists reporting on the KOOK Vanden Bossche.

There are no reputable medical or virology organization that supports this guy.

He's a kook and so are the rightwing nutjobs that buy into his crap.

You are free to believe what you want. There's a reason that no responsible news organization supports his claims. Because they are nutty.
 

Raoul_Luke

I feel a bit lightheaded. Maybe you should drive.
The people you are commenting on are the journalists reporting on the KOOK Vanden Bossche.

There are no reputable medical or virology organization that supports this guy.

He's a kook and so are the rightwing nutjobs that buy into his crap.

You are free to believe what you want. There's a reason that no responsible news organization supports his claims. Because they are nutty.
Yes, they are journalists. Or at least what passes for "journalists" these days. They are propagandists, which, let's face it, is why you pay attention to them. And why you insist we ignore all but the propaganda sites you, in your inestimable "expertise", deem "reputable" - edited and can't abide any data that pulls the strings in the thread of your "expertise" on this (or any) matter. A few tugs and the whole thing unravels (just like I did here).
 
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