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Pick your battles! (US forces come under in attack – in Syria???)

US foments and finances an illegal coup in 2014, instigating an 8 year-long civil war on Russian borders which NATO uses to maximize arm$ $ales in defense of freedom loving Nazis. Once again US meddling in the internal politics of a foreign state on the opposite side of the planet presents investment opportunities for those who profit from eternal war and endless debt.
Can you provide a link to any site NOT in Russia, to substantiate this opinion?
 
Can you provide a link to any site NOT in Russia, to substantiate this opinion?
https://images.carnegieendowment.org/images/article_images/20190620-CKI_Map.jpg

For more that thirty years successive US administrations have expanded NATO borders to Russia's. (Note: Russia has NOT expanded its borders until the US/NATO threat became existential.

Ukraine was the the final nail in the coffin as far as Russia was concerned:

https://www.conservapedia.com/Maidan_coup#U.S.-backed_Maidan_riots

"In December 2013, in a speech to the U.S.-Ukraine Foundation, Assistant Secretary of State for European Affairs Victoria Nuland said: 'The United States has supported Ukraine’s European aspirations. … We have invested over $5 billion to assist Ukraine in these and other goals that will ensure a secure and prosperous and democratic Ukraine.'

"On December 14 Sen. John McCain met with fascist leader Oleh Tyahnybok and Arseniy Yatsenyuk in Kiev.[34]."

"On January 1, 2014, a torchlight mob celebrated the 105th birthday of Ukrainian nationalist and Nazi collaborator Stepan Bandera in the streets of Kyiv[35][36]

"Protesters carried the fascist black and red 'blood and soil' flag of the Ukrainian Insurgent Army..."

"Nuland-Pyatt phone call

"On January 28, 2014, Assistant Secretary of State Victoria Nuland and US ambassador to Ukraine, Geoffrey Pyatt discussed details of planned overthrow of the democratically elected government of Ukraine"
 
The facts disagree with you.
Fact:

"Nuland-Pyatt phone call
"On January 28, 2014, Assistant Secretary of State Victoria Nuland and US ambassador to Ukraine, Geoffrey Pyatt discussed details of planned overthrow of the democratically elected government of Ukraine.

"The two discussed which opposition officials would make up the new regime, agreeing that Arseniy Yatsenyuk should be in charge.

"Nuland referred to as 'Yats'.

"It was also agreed that someone 'high profile' be brought in to 'make this thing stick'.

"That someone was Joe Biden.

 

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Fact:

"Nuland-Pyatt phone call
"On January 28, 2014, Assistant Secretary of State Victoria Nuland and US ambassador to Ukraine, Geoffrey Pyatt discussed details of planned overthrow of the democratically elected government of Ukraine.

"The two discussed which opposition officials would make up the new regime, agreeing that Arseniy Yatsenyuk should be in charge.

"Nuland referred to as 'Yats'.

"It was also agreed that someone 'high profile' be brought in to 'make this thing stick'.

"That someone was Joe Biden.

The Rada voted unanimously to remove Yanukovych from office in February 2014.

While we may have supported one leader over others...how did we get him elected? He won with 54% of the vote.

The picture you've shown is from his visit to the White House...
 
The Rada voted unanimously to remove Yanukovych from office in February 2014.

While we may have supported one leader over others...how did we get him elected? He won with 54% of the vote.

The picture you've shown is from his visit to the White House...
You're saying "good guys" shake hands with Nazis in the White House?
The Rada took that vote after right-wing thugs murdered police officers and drove a democratically elected president from the country.
It's worth repeating the sentiments expressed from the Rada 3 months before the coup occurred:

https://www.conservapedia.com/Maidan_coup#Tech_camp.2C_terrorist_training.2C_and_Hromdske_TV

"'In my role as a representative of the Ukrainian people, activists from the Volya Public Organization turned to me, providing clear evidence that within our country, with support and direct participation of the US Embassy in Kiev, a 'TechCamp' project is under way in which preparations are being made for a civil war in Ukraine.

"The 'TechCamp' project prepares specialists for information warfare and for the discrediting of state institutions [the Government] using modern media — potential revolutionaries for organizing protests and the toppling of the Government."
 

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You're saying "good guys" shake hands with Nazis in the White House?
The Rada took that vote after right-wing thugs murdered police officers and drove a democratically elected president from the country.
It's worth repeating the sentiments expressed from the Rada 3 months before the coup occurred:

https://www.conservapedia.com/Maidan_coup#Tech_camp.2C_terrorist_training.2C_and_Hromdske_TV

"'In my role as a representative of the Ukrainian people, activists from the Volya Public Organization turned to me, providing clear evidence that within our country, with support and direct participation of the US Embassy in Kiev, a 'TechCamp' project is under way in which preparations are being made for a civil war in Ukraine.

"The 'TechCamp' project prepares specialists for information warfare and for the discrediting of state institutions [the Government] using modern media — potential revolutionaries for organizing protests and the toppling of the Government."
Your tech camp crap is such complete bullshit that it is truly sad you copy this stuff into a thread. There is nothing in the Tech Camp outline that offers sniper training...everything there is about office skills and communications.

 
Your tech camp crap is such complete bullshit that it is truly sad you copy this stuff into a thread. There is nothing in the Tech Camp outline that offers sniper training...everything there is about office skills and communications.

If it happened, sniper training took place in Poland; although, I'm sure the US Embassy in Kiev would lie about that part too:

https://www.conservapedia.com/Maidan_coup#Tech_camp.2C_terrorist_training.2C_and_Hromdske_TV

"Simultaneously, under Polish Government authorization, the CIA was training in Poland the military Right Sector leaders how to lead the coming U.S. coup in neighboring Ukraine.

"As the independent Polish investigative journalist Marek Miszczuk headlined for the Polish magazine NIE (“meaning “NO”) (the original article being in Polish): “Maidan secret state secret: Polish training camp for Ukrainians'...[24]"

"The program included:

  • "classes at the shooting range (including three times with sniper rifles), tactical and practical training in the assault on buildings.[25]
"On August 3, 2013 Obama regime ambassador Geoffrey Pyatt arrived in Kyiv..."
 

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If it happened, sniper training took place in Poland; although, I'm sure the US Embassy in Kiev would lie about that part too:

https://www.conservapedia.com/Maidan_coup#Tech_camp.2C_terrorist_training.2C_and_Hromdske_TV

"Simultaneously, under Polish Government authorization, the CIA was training in Poland the military Right Sector leaders how to lead the coming U.S. coup in neighboring Ukraine.

"As the independent Polish investigative journalist Marek Miszczuk headlined for the Polish magazine NIE (“meaning “NO”) (the original article being in Polish): “Maidan secret state secret: Polish training camp for Ukrainians'...[24]"

"The program included:

  • "classes at the shooting range (including three times with sniper rifles), tactical and practical training in the assault on buildings.[25]
"On August 3, 2013 Obama regime ambassador Geoffrey Pyatt arrived in Kyiv..."
So what you have is an article from Conservapedia, there is no verifiable information in their article...so you can accept what they say or wonder about them as a source.

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