Poland..steps up? or Steps in? Fighters to Ukraine

[PhilFish]

Poland will send planes to Ukraine...4 to start. More to follow...

Poland will transfer 4 MiG-29 fighter jets to Ukraine in the coming days, Polish president says

The US military has released newly declassified video of the Tuesday encounter between a US surveillance drone and a Russian fighter jet as it played out over the Black Sea. Follow live updates here.

www.cnn.com

 

[georgephillip]

"There are already 20,000 Polish soldiers fighting in Ukraine. Around 2,500 of them died and are buried in cemeteries in Poland. They died not in their homeland, but in Ukraine"

https://www.easternherald.com/2023/02/28/russian-army-destroyed-2500-polish-mercenaries-in-ukraine-us-colonel/#:~:text=This was stated by former adviser to the,are already 20,000 Polish soldiers fighting in Ukraine.

20,000 Polish soldiers fighting in Ukraine?
Sounds like an act of war.

 

[PhilFish]

"There are already 20,000 Polish soldiers fighting in Ukraine. Around 2,500 of them died and are buried in cemeteries in Poland. They died not in their homeland, but in Ukraine"

https://www.easternherald.com/2023/02/28/russian-army-destroyed-2500-polish-mercenaries-in-ukraine-us-colonel/#:~:text=This was stated by former adviser to the,are already 20,000 Polish soldiers fighting in Ukraine.

20,000 Polish soldiers fighting in Ukraine?
Sounds like an act of war.

I think it's something in the ten k range.. polish nationals..volunteers

 

[georgephillip]

I think it's something in the ten k range.. polish nationals..volunteers

Possibly there are a few thousand more regular Polish soldiers also decided to "volunteer"?

https://time.news/nato-sends-20000-polish-soldiers-to-ukraine-shocking-revelation/

"In an interview on March 1, 2023, the Colonel Douglas MacGregor stated that 20,000 Polish soldiers were sent to fight in Ukraine by NATO.

"Of course, they wear Ukrainian uniforms, like the 'consultants' who direct military operations on behalf of the United States.

"The Ukrainian resistance is a NATO business, it was possible thanks to the sacrifice of the Ukrainians, American intelligence and weapons sent by NATO."

"However, 'We are fighting the inevitable': Ukraine is lost..."

 

[middleview]

Possibly there are a few thousand more regular Polish soldiers also decided to "volunteer"?

https://time.news/nato-sends-20000-polish-soldiers-to-ukraine-shocking-revelation/

"In an interview on March 1, 2023, the Colonel Douglas MacGregor stated that 20,000 Polish soldiers were sent to fight in Ukraine by NATO.

"Of course, they wear Ukrainian uniforms, like the 'consultants' who direct military operations on behalf of the United States.

"The Ukrainian resistance is a NATO business, it was possible thanks to the sacrifice of the Ukrainians, American intelligence and weapons sent by NATO."

"However, 'We are fighting the inevitable': Ukraine is lost..."

Liz Cheney called Col. Macgregor(ret) a member of the Putin wing of the GOP. He retired in 2004. Where is he getting his info?

 

[georgephillip]

Liz Cheney called Col. Macgregor(ret) a member of the Putin wing of the GOP. He retired in 2004. Where is he getting his info?

https://www.tellerreport.com/news/2023-03-14-former-pentagon-adviser-mcgregor--conflict-in-ukraine-destroys-us-national-power.rkcrHoaJn.html

"The United States has less and less ability to support Kyiv.

"This was stated in an article for The American Conservative by former Pentagon adviser Colonel Douglas McGregor.

"'The notorious “vibrations” of the market—feelings, emotions, beliefs, and psychological tendencies—suggest that a dark turn is taking place within the American economy,' McGregor said.

"According to him, Washington's participation in the conflict shakes the political and economic situation."

https://www.fool.com/investing/2023/03/17/why-shares-of-first-republic-bank-collapsed-this-w/

 

[middleview]

https://www.tellerreport.com/news/2023-03-14-former-pentagon-adviser-mcgregor--conflict-in-ukraine-destroys-us-national-power.rkcrHoaJn.html

"The United States has less and less ability to support Kyiv.

"This was stated in an article for The American Conservative by former Pentagon adviser Colonel Douglas McGregor.

"'The notorious “vibrations” of the market—feelings, emotions, beliefs, and psychological tendencies—suggest that a dark turn is taking place within the American economy,' McGregor said.

"According to him, Washington's participation in the conflict shakes the political and economic situation."

https://www.fool.com/investing/2023/03/17/why-shares-of-first-republic-bank-collapsed-this-w/

Is Macgregor making money from Kremlin media? Yup.

WATCH: Fox reporter scolds Douglas Macgregor for sounding like a 'Putin apologist'


WATCH: Fox reporter scolds Douglas Macgregor for sounding like a 'Putin apologist' | Washington Examiner

 

[Dawg]

Poland will send planes to Ukraine...4 to start. More to follow...

Poland will transfer 4 MiG-29 fighter jets to Ukraine in the coming days, Polish president says

The US military has released newly declassified video of the Tuesday encounter between a US surveillance drone and a Russian fighter jet as it played out over the Black Sea. Follow live updates here.

www.cnn.com

Fighter jets given no one an advantage

Fighter jets are 'worthless' over Ukraine, and it's a sign of what US pilots and troops may face in future battles (msn.com)

 

[georgephillip]

Is Macgregor making money from Kremlin media? Yup.

WATCH: Fox reporter scolds Douglas Macgregor for sounding like a 'Putin apologist'


WATCH: Fox reporter scolds Douglas Macgregor for sounding like a 'Putin apologist' | Washington Examiner

No doubt Macgregor is monetizing his expertise; however, he may have just gone a bridge too far with his prediction Biden will be gone from office within 90 days

Macgregor made this claim at the very end of his most recent appearance on "Judging Freedom" with Andrew Napolitano.

 

[as seen on tv]

Poland will send planes to Ukraine...4 to start. More to follow...

Poland will transfer 4 MiG-29 fighter jets to Ukraine in the coming days, Polish president says

The US military has released newly declassified video of the Tuesday encounter between a US surveillance drone and a Russian fighter jet as it played out over the Black Sea. Follow live updates here.

www.cnn.com

i'm not casting aspersions on this. but there's a steep learning curve on these things. A bunch of surface to air missiles might have more immediate effect.

 

[middleview]

i'm not casting aspersions on this. but there's a steep learning curve on these things. A bunch of surface to air missiles might have more immediate effect.

The Ukrainians already fly the Mig 29. No learning curve at all.
There would be for US planes like the F16.

 

[PhilFish]

Possibly there are a few thousand more regular Polish soldiers also decided to "volunteer"?

https://time.news/nato-sends-20000-polish-soldiers-to-ukraine-shocking-revelation/

"In an interview on March 1, 2023, the Colonel Douglas MacGregor stated that 20,000 Polish soldiers were sent to fight in Ukraine by NATO.

"Of course, they wear Ukrainian uniforms, like the 'consultants' who direct military operations on behalf of the United States.

"The Ukrainian resistance is a NATO business, it was possible thanks to the sacrifice of the Ukrainians, American intelligence and weapons sent by NATO."

"However, 'We are fighting the inevitable': Ukraine is lost..."

I disagree. Ukraine fights for it's existence.

 

[PhilFish]

i'm not casting aspersions on this. but there's a steep learning curve on these things. A bunch of surface to air missiles might have more immediate effect.

Ukraine is already familiar with utilizing these types of planes. At least to my understanding

 

[georgephillip]

I disagree. Ukraine fights for it's existence.

As is Russia.
Which state is most likely to prevail?

https://www.cnn.com/2022/02/25/europe/russia-ukraine-military-comparison-intl/index.html

 

[PhilFish]

As is Russia.
Which state is most likely to prevail?

https://www.cnn.com/2022/02/25/europe/russia-ukraine-military-comparison-intl/index.html

Reality informs us firstly ... Russia is no longer a #2. Secondarily, that it's skill as a conventional military power is grossly degraded

Theirs is purely a volume play

 

[PhilFish]

As is Russia.
Which state is most likely to prevail?

https://www.cnn.com/2022/02/25/europe/russia-ukraine-military-comparison-intl/index.html

Ps. Ukraine jumped six positions and is now 15th globally.

2023 Military Strength Ranking

Ranking the nations of the world based on current available firepower.

www.globalfirepower.com

By the time this is done it will be among the best skilled in asymmetrical warfare on this Earth

 

[georgephillip]

Reality informs us firstly ... Russia is no longer a #2. Secondarily, that it's skill as a conventional military power is grossly degraded

Theirs is purely a volume play

Russia is killing between 8 and16 Ukrainians for every dead Russian. Russia's military is more powerful today than it was one year ago.
Biden, NATO, and Ukraine will disappear long before Putin.

 

[PhilFish]

Russia is killing between 8 and16 Ukrainians for every dead Russian. Russia's military is more powerful today than it was one year ago.
Biden, NATO, and Ukraine will disappear long before Putin.

Russia is killing between 8 and 16 ukrainians for every dead Russian only in the imagination of Russians, and the propaganda wing of the Russian government.

Meanwhile back in reality, huge swaths of Russian citizenry, including it's able-bodied men are fleeing the country like the pussies that they are, because ukrainians are slaughtering them. Mathematically it's something like five Russians killed for every one ukrainian.

You can't even get your math in order. In order for your numbers to hold it would mean that every single active military duty Ukrainian is now dead. Which we know they're not. The only way Russia attains those numbers is through the slaughter of innocent civilians, which we know it does.

At least find a source that tells you what to say in the proper context

 

[georgephillip]

Ps. Ukraine jumped six positions and is now 15th globally.

2023 Military Strength Ranking

Ranking the nations of the world based on current available firepower.

www.globalfirepower.com

By the time this is done it will be among the best skilled in asymmetrical warfare on this Earth

NATO's largess is the only reason for Ukraine's rise, and Russia will degrade that improvement over the next twelve months. I suspect you're correct about the future of Ukraine's resistance, but it will be fighting a superpower on its eastern border without the same level of western support it currently receives.

Who gets rich from that?

https://unherd.com/thepost/western-public-support-for-ukraine-is-falling/

 

[georgephillip]

Russia is killing between 8 and 16 ukrainians for every dead Russian only in the imagination of Russians, and the propaganda wing of the Russian government.

Scott Ritter made that claim in one of his recent interviews.
I suppose it will be years before the objective truth about the casualties of this war will become available?