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Republicans have declared racism is over....Have you?

Is racism over for you?

  • Yes..I no longer see black or white just Human beings

    Votes: 2 40.0%
  • No, I still need racism

    Votes: 3 60.0%

  • Total voters
    5

EatTheRich

President
1. Disagreed.

2. You mean fellow robber Dorian Johnson? His credibility is highly suspect. The story that the sitting 6'4", 210# Wilson grabbed the standing 6'4", 292" Brown and tried to pull him into the police cruiser defies reason. More likely is that Wilson tried to open up his door, Brown shoved it back closed and a struggle for the gun ensued where Brown left his blood inside the cruiser.
1. Trayvon Martin was shot on February 26, 2012. No charges were initially filed against the shooter, George Zimmerman, who admitted to police that he followed the unarmed minor before shooting him to death. On March 8, Martin's father held a press conference criticizing the Sanford PD's investigation, and on March 9 his attorney announced plans to sue to get the public records released. Also on March 8, a petition on Change.org called for Zimmerman's arrest and prosecution. It garnered over 10,000 signatures in the first three days, and 2.2 million eventual signatures, making it the largest petition in the website's history. On March 13, the NAACP wrote to the Department of Justice asking them to step in, and on March 20 they launched an investigation, the day before a demonstration planned in New York that would bring in 5000 participants. Later that same week other large protests included 10000 in Sanford, 3000 in Atlanta, and 1200 in Baltimore.

Brown was shot on August 9. The next day there was a protest of 200 in Ferguson, which was taken advantage of by a handful of looters. On August 11, police were using tear gas, rubber bullets, and beanbag rounds against protesters, including a peacefully protesting state senator. It was at this point that the FBI launched an investigation into something which, after all, happens on about a semiweekly basis to unarmed Black people in the U.S. without being the subject of national investigation. 4500 people attended Michael Brown's funeral, and there was a 111-block-long line of protesters in New York.

2. I did mean Dorian Johnson. If his "testimony is highly suspect" because he is a "robber" (?), surely Wilson's is also highly suspect because he is a cop. Anyway, if Brown was in a position to shove the door closed, doesn't that imply that Wilson was opening it AT him?
 

EatTheRich

President
Why are you arguing this point....what???? Your criminal wasn't a criminal? Witnesses prove your point wrong now hush up and go home your momma is calling!
Whether he was a criminal or not (and he had no adult arrest record and certainly was never accused of any capital crime), Wilson had no right to execute him without trial. The majority of witnesses say he had his hands up when he was shot.
 

EatTheRich

President
We are talking about a cultural assessment which starts off with race as the core of the issue. Person color policeman shoots person of color criminal...no recourse from lefty...but White person cop or other shoots criminal? Even minority against minority if they can get you to believe the victim was white and shot the perpetrator.
This is simply untrue. First, many people shot by police aren't in fact criminals. Brown may have been, but the only crime he committed that Wilson was aware of was jaywalking. At any rate, when Braheme Days, who is Black, shot Jerame Reid, who is also Black, the left protested that (160 people turned out to protest this shooting in Bridgeton, New Jersey), as we have protested ALL cases of killings of unarmed civilians by police. And that's one example among many.
 

EatTheRich

President
I'm not racist. I don't know if racism is over or not. I don't think I care either way.

What I am is a 'culturist'. I don't think all cultures are created equal. The good news is that my bigotry or prejudice against your bad culture changes when you fix it.
You're not racist, but you don't care whether people continue to face racial barriers to the pursuit of happiness?
 
You're not racist, but you don't care whether people continue to face racial barriers to the pursuit of happiness?
No, I don't care. I think institutional racism is pretty much gone but I see racism returning because of Obama. What people need to realize is that people are people and are created equal but cultures are memes and not all memes are created equal. I think if someone is racist that is their prerogative because you can't legislate racism away from individuals with any success and not expect even more racism because of those efforts.

Yeah, I'm a memist. That rolls better than culturist. Thanks. :0)
 

Max R.

On the road
Supporting Member
1. Trayvon Martin was shot on February 26, 2012. No charges were initially filed against the shooter, George Zimmerman, who admitted to police that he followed the unarmed minor before shooting him to death. On March 8, Martin's father held a press conference criticizing the Sanford PD's investigation, and on March 9 his attorney announced plans to sue to get the public records released. Also on March 8, a petition on Change.org called for Zimmerman's arrest and prosecution. It garnered over 10,000 signatures in the first three days, and 2.2 million eventual signatures, making it the largest petition in the website's history. On March 13, the NAACP wrote to the Department of Justice asking them to step in, and on March 20 they launched an investigation, the day before a demonstration planned in New York that would bring in 5000 participants. Later that same week other large protests included 10000 in Sanford, 3000 in Atlanta, and 1200 in Baltimore.

Brown was shot on August 9. The next day there was a protest of 200 in Ferguson, which was taken advantage of by a handful of looters. On August 11, police were using tear gas, rubber bullets, and beanbag rounds against protesters, including a peacefully protesting state senator. It was at this point that the FBI launched an investigation into something which, after all, happens on about a semiweekly basis to unarmed Black people in the U.S. without being the subject of national investigation. 4500 people attended Michael Brown's funeral, and there was a 111-block-long line of protesters in New York.

2. I did mean Dorian Johnson. If his "testimony is highly suspect" because he is a "robber" (?), surely Wilson's is also highly suspect because he is a cop. Anyway, if Brown was in a position to shove the door closed, doesn't that imply that Wilson was opening it AT him?
1. Thanks for bringing up Martin since that is another excellent example of how the Obama administration, along with AG Holder, jumping in prior to any trial or investigation, and taking sides furthering a racial divide:
https://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2013/07/19/remarks-president-trayvon-martin
"You know, when Trayvon Martin was first shot I said that this could have been my son. Another way of saying that is Trayvon Martin could have been me 35 years ago. And when you think about why, in the African American community at least, there’s a lot of pain around what happened here, I think it’s important to recognize that the African American community is looking at this issue through a set of experiences and a history that doesn’t go away."

2. All police shootings should be both reported and investigated. Even AG Holder's report absolves Wilson despite all of the attempts to push this into a racial divide and taking Brown's side against Wilson's: http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-28868389
US Attorney General Eric Holder has met the parents of Michael Brown, the black teenager who was killed by police in Ferguson, Missouri last week.

The Attorney General of the United States didn't meet with Wilson's family. Why the bias? Is Holder a [Unwelcome language removed] racist?
 

Drumcollie

* See DC's list of Kook posters*
This is simply untrue. First, many people shot by police aren't in fact criminals. Brown may have been, but the only crime he committed that Wilson was aware of was jaywalking. At any rate, when Braheme Days, who is Black, shot Jerame Reid, who is also Black, the left protested that (160 people turned out to protest this shooting in Bridgeton, New Jersey), as we have protested ALL cases of killings of unarmed civilians by police. And that's one example among many.

Ummmm when who shot who? and that's just one example of many...but Criminal gets shot by assumed white person...Trayvon....Mike Brown...Eric Garner
and we have heard about them.

The real question is why does lefty only pick what gives them political gain rather than say protesting in South Chicago over what happened just last weekend or will this weekend:

Police: 3 Killed, 37 Wounded In Chicago Weekend ...
chicago.cbslocal.com/2015/...36...chicago-weekend-shootings

Aug 02, 2015 · ... young children — were injured in shootings across Chicago since ...
No this you wont protest
 

Drumcollie

* See DC's list of Kook posters*
You're not racist, but you don't care whether people continue to face racial barriers to the pursuit of happiness?
and You are a "racist"...You got that moniker when you joined the Democrats party...like it or not you join the party of slavery and segregation. With organizations like Progressive.org which promotes the idea(2012) that people of color will learn better in schools with people of color only...again with the segregation and Margaret Sangers "Cleaner Race" Planned Parenthood being in mostly minority neighborhoods Your racism from your party really hasn't gone away even though it's over, your party is still using racism...overtly and for political gain...thus you are the "racist"...and no party's didn't change as evidenced here...I still believe in the values of the original charter of 1854.
 

EatTheRich

President
No, I don't care. I think institutional racism is pretty much gone but I see racism returning because of Obama. What people need to realize is that people are people and are created equal but cultures are memes and not all memes are created equal. I think if someone is racist that is their prerogative because you can't legislate racism away from individuals with any success and not expect even more racism because of those efforts.

Yeah, I'm a memist. That rolls better than culturist. Thanks. :0)
Institutional racism isn't gone.

A handful of examples <--- http://www.usnews.com/news/blogs/at-the-edge/2015/05/06/institutional-racism-is-our-way-of-life
 

EatTheRich

President
Ummmm when who shot who? and that's just one example of many...but Criminal gets shot by assumed white person...Trayvon....Mike Brown...Eric Garner
and we have heard about them.
Well, that's more about what the big-business media ... which is purposely ginning up racial division ... chooses to show or not to show. Most protests against police brutality get very little national coverage. The Trayvon Martin shooting got more coverage because the killer was a vigilante and not a cop; the Mike Brown shooting got more coverage because of the violent nature of the protests; and the Eric Garner choking got more coverage because it was a particularly egregious case that was caught on video.
 

EatTheRich

President
and You are a "racist"...You got that moniker when you joined the Democrats party...like it or not you join the party of slavery and segregation. With organizations like Progressive.org which promotes the idea(2012) that people of color will learn better in schools with people of color only...again with the segregation and Margaret Sangers "Cleaner Race" Planned Parenthood being in mostly minority neighborhoods Your racism from your party really hasn't gone away even though it's over, your party is still using racism...overtly and for political gain...thus you are the "racist"...and no party's didn't change as evidenced here...I still believe in the values of the original charter of 1854.
I never joined the Democratic Party, nor do I have any association with Progressive magazine. I'd also like to see the link to where that magazine's website endorsed racially segregated schools, since I suspect you of (probably deliberately) misconstruing something that said nothing of the sort.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/jul/10/fewer-abortion-clinics-in-minority-communities-stu/?page=all <--- 60% of abortion providers are in majority-white zip codes so I don't know what you're talking about.

Both major parties have changed a great deal since 1854. For example, you are an unusual Republican today if you agree with the original Republican program that free land should be given to unemployed city dwellers.
 

Drumcollie

* See DC's list of Kook posters*
I never joined the Democratic Party, nor do I have any association with Progressive magazine. I'd also like to see the link to where that magazine's website endorsed racially segregated schools, since I suspect you of (probably deliberately) misconstruing something that said nothing of the sort.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/jul/10/fewer-abortion-clinics-in-minority-communities-stu/?page=all <--- 60% of abortion providers are in majority-white zip codes so I don't know what you're talking about.

Both major parties have changed a great deal since 1854. For example, you are an unusual Republican today if you agree with the original Republican program that free land should be given to unemployed city dwellers.
I see your spewing democratic garble again...I am sure you never signed on the dotted line...I bet you are not a democratic you just never vote for anyone else.

Btw what does the party line tell you to say on how many mammograms PP does each year?
 

Drumcollie

* See DC's list of Kook posters*
1. Trayvon Martin was shot on February 26, 2012. No charges were initially filed against the shooter, George Zimmerman, who admitted to police that he followed the unarmed minor before shooting him to death. On March 8, Martin's father held a press conference criticizing the Sanford PD's investigation, and on March 9 his attorney announced plans to sue to get the public records released. Also on March 8, a petition on Change.org called for Zimmerman's arrest and prosecution. It garnered over 10,000 signatures in the first three days, and 2.2 million eventual signatures, making it the largest petition in the website's history. On March 13, the NAACP wrote to the Department of Justice asking them to step in, and on March 20 they launched an investigation, the day before a demonstration planned in New York that would bring in 5000 participants. Later that same week other large protests included 10000 in Sanford, 3000 in Atlanta, and 1200 in Baltimore.

Brown was shot on August 9. The next day there was a protest of 200 in Ferguson, which was taken advantage of by a handful of looters. On August 11, police were using tear gas, rubber bullets, and beanbag rounds against protesters, including a peacefully protesting state senator. It was at this point that the FBI launched an investigation into something which, after all, happens on about a semiweekly basis to unarmed Black people in the U.S. without being the subject of national investigation. 4500 people attended Michael Brown's funeral, and there was a 111-block-long line of protesters in New York.

2. I did mean Dorian Johnson. If his "testimony is highly suspect" because he is a "robber" (?), surely Wilson's is also highly suspect because he is a cop. Anyway, if Brown was in a position to shove the door closed, doesn't that imply that Wilson was opening it AT him?

Wow you really are still spouting Trayvon half truths...first before Zimmerman shot Travon, Trayvon turned around came back and attack him...Zimmerman vigilante...maybe...Trayvon criminal...yes

 

EatTheRich

President
I see your spewing democratic garble again...I am sure you never signed on the dotted line...I bet you are not a democratic you just never vote for anyone else.

Btw what does the party line tell you to say on how many mammograms PP does each year?
On the contrary, I have seldom voted Democratic and regret that I ever did. I have voted for the Socialist Workers' candidates in every presidential election since I have become eligible to vote. When there was no candidate from my party on the ballot, I have also voted for Socialist Party candidates; and due to the lack of working-class candidates on the ballot, I have voted for write-in candidates, or written in "None of the Above," in many other races. I have also voted for left-wing candidates from capitalist parties, including, besides the Democratic Party, the Green Party; but I now consider that tactic to be generally speaking a mistake.

When it comes to factual questions, my party tells me to tell the truth, which in this case is that Planned Parenthood does not itself perform mammograms.
 

EatTheRich

President
Wow you really are still spouting Trayvon half truths...first before Zimmerman shot Travon, Trayvon turned around came back and attack him...Zimmerman vigilante...maybe...Trayvon criminal...yes
There's no question Zimmerman was a vigilante. He stalked Martin, in the dark, in his vehicle and on foot, armed with a gun and intent that this one wasn't going to "get away" like so many others had.

The only evidence that Trayvon "turned around came back and attack[ed] Zimmerman" is Zimmerman's own words ... the words of someone known to have lied multiple times about this case. And since Zimmerman admitted the shooting, the burden was not on the prosecution to prove that he killed Martin, but on Zimmerman to prove he acted in self-defense.
 

Max R.

On the road
Supporting Member
Could it be as simple as the fact that, unlike Brown, Wilson wasn't shot to death?
Yet Wilson is the one who was doing his duty. Wilson was the one who, like the store clerk, Brown attacked. AFAIK, Holder didn't visit the clerk's family either.

Why no concern by the AG for justice? Why does he only care about people of his own race?

 
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