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Russia. Step 1. Destabilize.

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middleview

President
Supporting Member
EatTheRich said:
For the first strike? 17 plausible examples of a tactical launch that likely eventually escalates to a strategic exchange as the major nuclear powers go into panic mode and unleash the MAD doomsday plans that are part of their strategic planning:

1) Pakistan strikes India
2) Pakistan strikes Afghanistan
3) China strikes India
4) the U.S. strikes N. Korea
5) the U.S. strikes Iran
6) Russia strikes Iran
7) Saudi Arabia buys a nuke and strikes Iran
8) Pakistan strikes Iran
9) Iran develops a nuclear capability and strikes Israel
10) N. Korea strikes S. Korea
11) N. Korea strikes Japan
12) S. Korea develops a nuclear capability and strikes N. Korea
13) India strikes Pakistan
14) the U.S. strikes Afghanistan
15) Russia strikes Afghanistan
16) Iran develops a nuclear capability and strikes Iraq
17) Iran develops a nuclear capability and strikes Saudi Arabia

Then there is the possibility of a pre-emptive strategic launch by a major nuclear power amid increased political tension and paranoia. Some plausible scenarios here:

1) the U.S. launches on Russia
2) Russia launches on the U.S. and perhaps Germany, the UK, France, and/or Israel
3) Russia launches on Turkey
4) the U.S. (and perhaps the UK and/or Israel) launches on Iran
5) the U.S. and/or China launches on India
6) Russia and/or the U.S. launches on Pakistan
7) the U.S. launches on China
8) the U.S. launches on Canada
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colorado nukes utah...
 
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EatTheRich

President
middleview said:
Confiscating the proprty of others is a big hurdle..not something most would support.
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Property confiscations that happened with the support of the majority:

1) Caesarist reforms limiting the wealth of the upper aristocracy in various antique societies
2) Confiscation of the wealth of Templars and Jews by incipient capitalist powers
3) Confiscation of Church Estates during the Reformation
4) Confiscation of the wealth of barbarian, feudal, and underdeveloped capitalist societies by the future great powers
5) Confiscation of the wealth of the feudal lords by the bourgeois revolutions
6) Confiscation of the wealth of the American, Arab, and African slaveowners and the E. European boyars
7) Confiscation of bourgeois wealth in the Russian, Korean, Chinese, and Cuban revolutions
 
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EatTheRich

President
middleview said:
colorado nukes utah...
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You know that the point of nuclear weapons is their ability to kill large numbers quickly, right? They have been used before and at least one nuclear power (Pakistan) is highly unstable politically and vulnerable to a radical takeover by jingoist fanatics.
 
middleview

middleview

President
Supporting Member
EatTheRich said:
Property confiscations that happened with the support of the majority:

1) Caesarist reforms limiting the wealth of the upper aristocracy in various antique societies
2) Confiscation of the wealth of Templars and Jews by incipient capitalist powers
3) Confiscation of Church Estates during the Reformation
4) Confiscation of the wealth of barbarian, feudal, and underdeveloped capitalist societies by the future great powers
5) Confiscation of the wealth of the feudal lords by the bourgeois revolutions
6) Confiscation of the wealth of the American, Arab, and African slaveowners and the E. European boyars
7) Confiscation of bourgeois wealth in the Russian, Korean, Chinese, and Cuban revolutions
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the majority in the US would not support theft.
 
middleview

middleview

President
Supporting Member
EatTheRich said:
You know that the point of nuclear weapons is their ability to kill large numbers quickly, right? They have been used before and at least one nuclear power (Pakistan) is highly unstable politically and vulnerable to a radical takeover by jingoist fanatics.
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they were last used in a war in 1945.
 
God of War

God of War

Governor
EatTheRich said:
The Native Americans might disagree.
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Give it a rest already.

When Western culture showed up the indigenous were just part of the flora and fauna. Nothing more. No paper. No writing. No wheels. No land registry office.

Essentially just non-player characters wandering around in the gaming space randomly fighting each other over resources and access to territory on an ad hoc basis. The players that showed up just set them aside and started building the infrasctructure necessary for advanced civilization that would go to the moon, build particle accelerators, develop advanced medical treatments and create a capitalist system that would fund the growth of the entire planet.

You'd still be rubbing shit in your wounds if that hadn't happened. Join Western Civilization or here's a bottle and go get drunk. That's the deal. Take it or leave it.
 
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EatTheRich

President
God of War said:
Give it a rest already.

When Western culture showed up the indigenous were just part of the flora and fauna. Nothing more. No paper. No writing. No wheels. No land registry office.

Essentially just non-player characters wandering around in the gaming space randomly fighting each other over resources and access to territory on an ad hoc basis. The players that showed up just set them aside and started building the infrasctructure necessary for advanced civilization that would go to the moon, build particle accelerators, develop advanced medical treatments and create a capitalist system that would fund the growth of the entire planet.

You'd still be rubbing shit in your wounds if that hadn't happened. Join Western Civilization or here's a bottle and go get drunk. That's the deal. Take it or leave it.
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No writing?

No wheels?

No land registry office?

Anyway it sounds like you accept the principle that capitalists taking the property of others is OK if it advances progress. Yet when communists do it it becomes “theft.”
 
God of War

God of War

Governor
EatTheRich said:
No writing?

No wheels?

No land registry office?

Anyway it sounds like you accept the principle that capitalists taking the property of others is OK if it advances progress. Yet when communists do it it becomes “theft.”
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What a pile of shit links. Honestly, that was so sad it is shameful to try and pawn off childish things as meaningful. Take it from someone with Amerindian genes in him. Don't need white a$$holes keeping us drunk, barefoot and pregnant down on the reservations. Vaguely trying to find pride by begging for it rather than grabbing the brass ring.
 
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EatTheRich

President
God of War said:
What a pile of shit links. Honestly, that was so sad it is shameful to try and pawn off childish things as meaningful. Take it from someone with Amerindian genes in him. Don't need white a$$holes keeping us drunk, barefoot and pregnant down on the reservations. Vaguely trying to find pride by begging for it rather than grabbing the brass ring.
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What makes the writing of the Zapotec, Maya, Olmec, Mixtec, Aztec, Mi’kmaq, or Anishinaabe more “childish” than that of Europeans? Or the property rights to land observed by so many tribes and nations?
 
middleview

middleview

President
Supporting Member
EatTheRich said:
No writing?

No wheels?

No land registry office?

Anyway it sounds like you accept the principle that capitalists taking the property of others is OK if it advances progress. Yet when communists do it it becomes “theft.”
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It was theft then and made palatable by calling native Americans savages. So now you'd justfy stealing the property of others by saying the oil company investors and owners are subhuman?
 
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