So where does Trump go to get his apologies from the left...

[middleview]

How childish can you get?

By your example....unsure. You've set a pretty low bar.

 

[middleview]

Already discussed plenty. You are only appearing extremely mentally ill at this point.

1. I am not the topic.
2. Doctors released patients. Not Cuomo. They decided if a patient was still contagious. Not the governor. Patients decided where they would go after being released. Cuomo's executive order said Nursing homes couldn't refuse a returning resident.
Where else would someone go if they'd been living at a nursing home for years?
Of course this also means that people released by the doctors would be returning to their own homes. If you are correct and those released to nursing homes caused a surge in infections...wouldn't the same be true of those people living with their parents and just released?

Clearly if someone were taken from a nursing home and hospitalized with Covid...covid is already a problem at that facility. How could you prove that the returning resident infected anyone new?

 

[middleview]

Let me guess.....the money for research, development, and mass production in record times just grew on trees in some major stroke of luck? ROFL

You should really go back to calling zero crimes a "crime spree" again. Even that was less insane.

Who actually got money to develop vaccine? Pfizer did not. Maderna and Merck did. Merck's project was canceled when their vaccine proved largely ineffective.

Pfizer paid for their own research and development. When human trials proved efficacy the government gave them a contract to produce it. Biden then invoked emergency production legislation to have Merck produce Pfizer's vaccine.

 

[Bugsy McGurk]

1. I am not the topic.
2. Doctors released patients. No Cuomo. They decided if a patient was still contagious. Not the governor. Patients decided where they would go after being released. Cuomo's executive order said Nursing homes couldn't refuse a returning resident.
Where else would someone go if they'd been living at a nursing home for years?
Of course this also means that people released by the doctors would be returning to their own homes. If you are correct and those released to nursing homes caused a surge in infections...wouldn't the same be true of those people living with their parents and just released?

Clearly if someone were taken from a nursing home and hospitalized with Covid...covid is already a problem at that facility. How could you prove that the returning resident infected anyone new?

It must also be recalled that NY hospitals were overwhelmed with Covid victims. NY’s flexibility with patients was very limited, with some patients being treated in parks and the Javits Center. Cuomo had difficult choices to make when managing the crisis. Wingers prefer “governance” by “leaders” who said it will all just go away like a miracle.

 

[EatTheRich]

Yes China is the place you ought to be since they are so truthful

China high school student's death has exposed a credibility crisis for Chinese authorities (msn.com)

Now way you should remain in such an awful place like AMERICA

Whether China is a good place to live or has a truthful government doesn't really have much to do with whether China handled Covid-19 better than the U.S.

 

[Bugsy McGurk]

Whether China is a good place to live or has a truthful government doesn't really have much to do with whether China handled Covid-19 better than the U.S.

True, but that’s a low bar. Every country has better Covid numbers than the US (although India is giving us a run for our money). Trump’s performance was the worst on the planet. But his cultists just love the guy. Even after he orchestrated a violent insurrection in an attempt to steal the election.

 

[Mick]

1. I am not the topic.
2. Doctors released patients. Not Cuomo. They decided if a patient was still contagious. Not the governor. Patients decided where they would go after being released. Cuomo's executive order said Nursing homes couldn't refuse a returning resident.
Where else would someone go if they'd been living at a nursing home for years?
Of course this also means that people released by the doctors would be returning to their own homes. If you are correct and those released to nursing homes caused a surge in infections...wouldn't the same be true of those people living with their parents and just released?

Clearly if someone were taken from a nursing home and hospitalized with Covid...covid is already a problem at that facility. How could you prove that the returning resident infected anyone new?

Yikes. What a complete misrepresentation of the truth.

AP: Over 9,000 virus patients sent into NY nursing homes

NEW YORK (AP) — More than 9,000 recovering coronavirus patients in New York state were released from hospitals into nursing homes early in the pandemic under a controversial directive that was scrapped amid criticism it accelerated outbreaks, according to new records obtained by The Associated Press

apnews.com

Cuomo did it and tried to cover it up. And where would patients go? Not FORCED back into populations with old and vulnerable. NY seemed to magically figure it out after Cuomo was busted.

There is much evil in America. You embrace it and lie for it. Doubly evil.

 

[Mick]

Who actually got money to develop vaccine? Pfizer did not. Maderna and Merck did. Merck's project was canceled when their vaccine proved largely ineffective.

Pfizer paid for their own research and development. When human trials proved efficacy the government gave them a contract to produce it. Biden then invoked emergency production legislation to have Merck produce Pfizer's vaccine.

We have been over this. Development is worthless without mass production and distribution. That’s where Pfizer gobbled billions in help from Trump.

Evil lives.

 

[middleview]

Yikes. What a complete misrepresentation of the truth.

AP: Over 9,000 virus patients sent into NY nursing homes

NEW YORK (AP) — More than 9,000 recovering coronavirus patients in New York state were released from hospitals into nursing homes early in the pandemic under a controversial directive that was scrapped amid criticism it accelerated outbreaks, according to new records obtained by The Associated Press

apnews.com

Cuomo did it and tried to cover it up. And where would patients go? Not FORCED back into populations with old and vulnerable. NY seemed to magically figure it out after Cuomo was busted.

There is much evil in America. You embrace it and lie for it. Doubly evil.

What "truth" do you have that disagrees with what I wrote?

Was there a directive that nursing homes could not refuse a returning resident? Yes. Did doctors release thousands of recovering Covid patients? Yes. Did Cuomo release any of them? No. Did those patients in some cases choose to return to their previous residences? Yup. Is there evidence that those patients were still infectious? None that I've seen or that you've offered.

 

[middleview]

We have been over this you edited. Development is worthless without mass production and distribution. That’s where Pfizer gobbled billions in help from Trump.

Evil lives.

Evil? Just what is dishonest about what I posted? Pfizer did not receive money until they had a product...and then the federal government executed the contract to buy and take delivery.

Pfizer started research in January 2020....long before Trump's Warp Speed.

 

[Mick]

What "truth" do you have that disagrees with what I wrote?

Here are the facts.

1. Thousands of recovering Covid-19 patients would not have been allowed back into nursing homes early if not for an order from Cuomo forcing them to take such patients. This is WHY Cuomo signed the order

2. This order lead to many thousands of additional cases and and thousands of additional deaths.

3. Cuomo rescinded the order after it became public.

4. Cuomo tried to cover up the cases and deaths.

Those are the facts. Anything that varies from the above is is simply a lie. Trying to blame doctors who released Covid-19 patients from the hospital who weren't very sick (which can zero relationship to how contagious one is because Covid severity can vary greatly from patient to patient) is a corrupt lie. Doctors released less ill patients to free up beds in hospitals/ICUs for new, sick patients. It was based upon symptoms, not contagiousness. That's it. It was no directive to nursing homes....AT ALL. There was one and ONLY one directive from nursing homes. That came from ho.mo.

Evil lives.

 

[Mick]

Evil? Just what is dishonest about what I posted? Pfizer did not receive money until they had a product...and then the federal government executed the contract to buy and take delivery.

Pfizer started research in January 2020....long before Trump's Warp Speed.

Once again, development without mass production and distribution is worthless. Warp speed was development, production, distribution. It was right on the Warp Speed page last spring. Pfizer took billions of warp speed funds from President Trump to ramp up distribution and production. Period.

Evil lives

 

[Mick]

Evil? Just what is dishonest about what I posted? Pfizer did not receive money until they had a product...and then the federal government executed the contract to buy and take delivery.

Pfizer started research in January 2020....long before Trump's Warp Speed.

By the way, be a man and defend the evil without lying and reporting posts. Hoping a fellow left winger will bail you out of your foolishness and lies is weak.

 

[Mick]

It must also be recalled that NY hospitals were overwhelmed with Covid victims. NY’s flexibility with patients was very limited, with some patients being treated in parks and the Javits Center. Cuomo had difficult choices to make when managing the crisis. Wingers prefer “governance” by “leaders” who said it will all just go away like a miracle.

Ahhh, so Ho.mo isn't to blame for his OWN directive and resulting deaths? Magically he DID have other options available to him after he rescinded the order after nursing homes revolted and the order became public? And for something being so up and up he really had no reason to cover up cases and death?

You people love your evil. Bug, you should have stayed on your hilarious claims that zero crimes was a "crime spree". It seems I'm forced to do this to you every damn day:

And you NEVER learn!

 

[middleview]

By the way, be a man and defend the evil without lying and reporting posts. Hoping a fellow left winger will bail you out of your foolishness and lies is weak.

What is evil about pointing out the facts to you? Quit whining.

 

[Mick]

What is evil about pointing out the facts to you? Quit whining.

Yes, these are the "facts"...



1. Thousands of recovering Covid-19 patients would not have been allowed back into nursing homes early if not for an order from Cuomo forcing them to take such patients. This is WHY Cuomo signed the order

2. This order lead to many thousands of additional cases and and thousands of additional deaths.

3. Cuomo rescinded the order after it became public.

4. Cuomo tried to cover up the cases and deaths.

And, yes, it is very evil....and you support it.

 

[middleview]

Here are the facts.

1. Thousands of recovering Covid-19 patients would not have been allowed back into nursing homes early if not for an order from Cuomo forcing them to take such patients. This is WHY Cuomo signed the order

2. This order lead to many thousands of additional cases and and thousands of additional deaths.

3. Cuomo rescinded the order after it became public.

4. Cuomo tried to cover up the cases and deaths.

Those are the facts. Anything that varies from the above is is simply a lie. Trying to blame doctors who released Covid-19 patients from the hospital who weren't very sick (which can zero relationship to how contagious one is because Covid severity can vary greatly from patient to patient) is a corrupt lie. Doctors released less ill patients to free up beds in hospitals/ICUs for new, sick patients. It was based upon symptoms, not contagiousness. That's it. It was no directive to nursing homes....AT ALL. There was one and ONLY one directive from nursing homes. That came from ho.mo.

Evil lives.

And where would those patients released from hospitals go? Doctors determined they were not contagious...not Cuomo.

Cuomo rescinded the order because there was widespread bad PR about it...not because anyone provided evidence that those who had been released were still contagious.

 

[Mick]

And where would those patients released from hospitals go? Doctors determined they were not contagious...not Cuomo.

Doctors didn't determine they weren't contagious. They simply determined some weren't sick enough to continue taking hospital/ICU beds as new cases streamed in.

STOP LYING. Jesus Christ.

And ANYWHERE besides stuffing them into nursing homes with other susceptible elderly. He figured that out after rescinding the order.

Stop pushing the evil, man. It's awful

Cuomo rescinded the order because there was widespread bad PR about it

Wait...I thought he didnt' have any other choice but stick covid patients with elderly? Now he suddenly could rescind and had options? Oh, foolish one. Your evil stinks.

 

[Dawg]

And where would those patients released from hospitals go? Doctors determined they were not contagious...not Cuomo.



Link

 

[Alinvegas]

Trump allowed 400,000 people and some change to die from a vaccine he called a hoax.

His response was criminal.

In which state, country, world did 400K die from the vaccine?