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Jen

Be happy.
I Look at the so-called News and I try to imagine what is possible and what is likely, I never swallow anything at face value because I know the stories are made up. The guys that invented the "News" (Huntley - Brinkley Report) told us that was what they were doing, they make up a story for you, they tell stories, that's their reports, reporting is story telling where the reporter has to look at events and tell a story of what happened. They have to make up that story. That's why they have writers and actors, that's what the business does.

So, let me amend this word "fake" and replace it with the idea "made up" ... because that's what it really is. Something did happen but afterward, we get the story, however accurate or totally made up that story is.

So, it is left up to you to investigate those stories.

There is a space station in Low Earth orbit. The Soviets built it. The Soviets have always been ahead in the space program. We never caught up with them or passed them, we asked if they would allow us to join them. Seems reasonable that people could be ferried to the space station and back for short visits, but 30 years after the Challenger disaster I find a flat-earther who ran down the astronauts that supposedly died on that flight and he locates them in real life, still alive and well. That's a head scratcher. And those space shuttles did not return to earth, anyone who thinks that monster was capable of gliding is completely unglued. They have identical shuttles that have jet engines for earth flight, if you ever listened to a shuttle landing you can hear the jet engines; what lands is not a rocket, it is an airplane.

I tried to explain radiation, broadcast signal versus line-of-sight relay signals (I should have gone into repeaters), gravity, fuel consumption, re-entry, and signal tracking (maintaining a connection) from long distances. I should have talked more about how fast the planets are moving relative to the sun and what angles they are spinning relative to each other, how fast they are spinning relative to each other, how fast their orbits are relative to each other, the farther out you go, the slower the planetary year... I think Venus makes 5 orbits in 2 earth years. If you are going to track a probe orbiting another planet, there is a myriad of motions that you have to account for while you chase the probe's orbit and all of that motion has to be performed by the entire Dish in real time. How big a Dish do you think it would take to retrieve a signal from Saturn? I would guess 3/4 mile diameter, at least. That dish has to be pointed directly at the probe, a low power broadcast signal fades to nothing within a mile, and that never changes, electromagnetic waves are still electromagnetic waves.

You were told outrageous lies, okay, outrageous stories, that prayed upon your ignorance. Not just for the Apollo missions, but for almost all News you read and see, every day of your lives. ISIS are mercenaries we pay to fight against Syria. But we pretend we are over there fighting ISIS, that's our excuse to be over there, and why are we over there? To support, train, and employ mercenaries against Syria, same as we did against Libya. So you get told the News, but the story is molded to the script the government wants you to believe.

Believing those stories whole cloth ... is stupid. Okay, call that "gullible". Napoleaon told us history is made up by the victors. It can be worse than that. There are hieroglyphs in Egypt where they tell of their victory over the Hittites. But there is also the peace treaty their army signed at the battle when the Egyptian army lost the battle and wanted to go home alive. So they came home and said they won, but they didn't bring back any spoils and the Hittite kingdom wasn't invaded by the Egyptians, so you figure the Hittite record is the truth.

When I read my bible, I discern between the histories and the myths and the poetry. King David played a harp like instrument, he wrote psalms, so what is that? lyrics? they are amazing lyrics, full of prophecy and his personal relationship with God. I don't play the harp or I would coneect better with what he was saying. But whenever I read something, I try to relate to the author. My son is better at this, he can tell you exactly what a Roman general was thinking 2000 years ago. I try to pass on what he teaches me, but you guys are more interested in politics. 9 more years of this tribulation, then we can wrap up the church age and enter the light at the end of this long tunnel of history.

Dayspring, Daysman, Daystar, DaysLight, RisenStar, Parousia ... and now, just Days. The nickname you gave me.
So in the simplest terms, Days, how long do we have and what will we go through to get there and what will happen when we get there? One long (run-on) question.
 

Days

Commentator
So in the simplest terms, Days, how long do we have and what will we go through to get there and what will happen when we get there? One long (run-on) question.
The answer would require an encyclopedia. There's so much prophecy about the Day of the Lord, and the words were sealed from our understanding, so it takes forever to get through it... and then you know that's merely one possible scenario. We posted today where Gog and Magog (Ezekiel chapter 38) might have just sparked over in the Caucuses. If I read that prophecy correctly, the Russians run with it all the way to Israel, igniting a furious reaction from Israel. It is the Day of the Lord, but it is the Day of the Lord's fierce anger, and in scripture, that means Satan. So the fierce reaction from Israel is the Lord's anger and the rise of the AntiChrist, both. That's already started, or a better word is ignited.

This is also the Day of Jacob's trouble. Storm clouds are swirling in every direction. A fourth of the planet is armed to the teeth, fighting is everywhere, but the trouble in the desert along the Ephrates River is on another scale, there is no normal life over there, it is one big warzone where all the nations come to play; talk about the devil's playground.

I'm sticking with my timeline, it has to be awful close to what I see playing out before our eyes. Ten more years of trouble brewing all over that quarter of the planet and then a stillness before the storm of a couple or three years, when the winds of war are held back so we can preach some more and anoint the testimony, then it takes off, the final seven years; I like the Autumn of 2028 for the first trumpet, and somewhere in 2030 for that 6th trumpet. Spring of 2032 for the 7th trumpet.

I could be wrong, but not by much.
 

Days

Commentator
So in the simplest terms, Days, how long do we have and what will we go through to get there and what will happen when we get there? One long (run-on) question.
What happens when we get there is more of the same of what is happening now. For me, that's wind after wind of spiritual battle. Seems like the devil doesn't like me for some reason. Or maybe he is fond of me, not sure which is worse. When we come to the end of our testimonies here on earth, we are poured out to the Lord. For St Paul that meant imprisonment and a bunch of epistles to his churches... for any of us it is like that, whatever our ministry was is poured out to the church... that usually requires turbulence and upheaval of some sort. But what comes out of us is exactly what is in us, so it is more of the same.
 

Jen

Be happy.
The answer would require an encyclopedia. There's so much prophecy about the Day of the Lord, and the words were sealed from our understanding, so it takes forever to get through it... and then you know that's merely one possible scenario. We posted today where Gog and Magog (Ezekiel chapter 38) might have just sparked over in the Caucuses. If I read that prophecy correctly, the Russians run with it all the way to Israel, igniting a furious reaction from Israel. It is the Day of the Lord, but it is the Day of the Lord's fierce anger, and in scripture, that means Satan. So the fierce reaction from Israel is the Lord's anger and the rise of the AntiChrist, both. That's already started, or a better word is ignited.

This is also the Day of Jacob's trouble. Storm clouds are swirling in every direction. A fourth of the planet is armed to the teeth, fighting is everywhere, but the trouble in the desert along the Ephrates River is on another scale, there is no normal life over there, it is one big warzone where all the nations come to play; talk about the devil's playground.

I'm sticking with my timeline, it has to be awful close to what I see playing out before our eyes. Ten more years of trouble brewing all over that quarter of the planet and then a stillness before the storm of a couple or three years, when the winds of war are held back so we can preach some more and anoint the testimony, then it takes off, the final seven years; I like the Autumn of 2028 for the first trumpet, and somewhere in 2030 for that 6th trumpet. Spring of 2032 for the 7th trumpet.

I could be wrong, but not by much.
Are you certain we aren't in the years of stillness now?
 

Jen

Be happy.
What happens when we get there is more of the same of what is happening now. For me, that's wind after wind of spiritual battle. Seems like the devil doesn't like me for some reason. Or maybe he is fond of me, not sure which is worse. When we come to the end of our testimonies here on earth, we are poured out to the Lord. For St Paul that meant imprisonment and a bunch of epistles to his churches... for any of us it is like that, whatever our ministry was is poured out to the church... that usually requires turbulence and upheaval of some sort. But what comes out of us is exactly what is in us, so it is more of the same.
I am watching in wonder.
 

Jen

Be happy.
not yet, it is still getting worse, we have wars kicking up all over the place.
I don't think my life will last long enough for me to see the end. I don't know if that is a good thing or a bad thing but I would like to be the mother hen to my children. That's what I am here for.........to be the mother hen.
 
Sets were built that matched the moon. Pics were taken on the set. 2008 photo of actual location on the moon confirmed that no equipment was there from Apollo. But this yo-yo thinks that the accuracy of the set confirms a landing on the moon? How stupid is that?

It gets worse. Kadak light sensitive film was destroyed by 25 REM of radiation, obscurred by only 5 REM. Apollo 15 would have needed to fly through enough radiation to kill the men (500+ REM) and yet you still think the film for the pics survived... in perfect condition. How stupid is that?

Did you read these posts?
They faked too many moon landings for the conspiracy to have remained a secret.

Funny you didn't comment on the easy debunking of the photograph your video link provided. The rest of the conspiracy data is just as easily debunked.
 

bdtex

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Is there something special about BFD's blog?
Nope. Nothing special about my blog. I could've requested that it be closed as others did who created their own but I didn't. Kinda interesting to pop in from time to time to see what others have turned the blog into. Probably not a good idea to post the kinda stuff I originally intended to when I requested this private blog.
 

Days

Commentator
They faked too many moon landings for the conspiracy to have remained a secret.

Funny you didn't comment on the easy debunking of the photograph your video link provided. The rest of the conspiracy data is just as easily debunked.
It's pointless to go into all the arguments. For instance, the photographs were all made with light sensitive Kodak film. That film is exposed by radiation, everyone who ever had a Kodak camera at that time, knows that. Open your camera and the film is ruined. Well, the radioactive high energy particles that accompany a solar flare would have exposed all that film, whatever they brought along, all of it, simultaneously, where ever it was stowed. 5 REM obscurs that film, 25 REM destroys it, Apollo 17 mission supposedly flew through 5000 REM, obviously the film would not have survived, and for that matter, neither would have the astronauts.

When there is 5000 REM recorded flares and radiation belts, and there is, and the dosimeters on the mission returned with 2 REM, obviously, the mission never left low earth orbit. 2 REM is what you would expect from 2 weeks in low earth orbit during such a busy sun. The rest of the Apollo missions returned with less than one REM, Apollo 11 returned with 0.14 REM, exactly what you would expect from a week in low earth orbit in a less busy sun than Apollo 17, which flew at solar maximum.

The hoax is completely exposed by NASA's own records. The Apollo missions had dosimeters on the spacesuits and on the outside of the capsule.
 
It's pointless to go into all the arguments. For instance, the photographs were all made with light sensitive Kodak film. That film is exposed by radiation, everyone who ever had a Kodak camera at that time, knows that. Open your camera and the film is ruined. Well, the radioactive high energy particles that accompany a solar flare would have exposed all that film, whatever they brought along, all of it, simultaneously, where ever it was stowed. 5 REM obscurs that film, 25 REM destroys it, Apollo 17 mission supposedly flew through 5000 REM, obviously the film would not have survived, and for that matter, neither would have the astronauts.

When there is 5000 REM recorded flares and radiation belts, and there is, and the dosimeters on the mission returned with 2 REM, obviously, the mission never left low earth orbit. 2 REM is what you would expect from 2 weeks in low earth orbit during such a busy sun. The rest of the Apollo missions returned with less than one REM, Apollo 11 returned with 0.14 REM, exactly what you would expect from a week in low earth orbit in a less busy sun than Apollo 17, which flew at solar maximum.

The hoax is completely exposed by NASA's own records. The Apollo missions had dosimeters on the spacesuits and on the outside of the capsule.
How about you try and be a little more rational. Notice the radiation exposure for a round trip to Mars is .66 sievert making for a 5.5% increase chance in getting cancer. How long is that trip to Mars and how long were the trips to the Moon?

Space Radiation Threat to Astronauts Explained (Infographic)
By Karl Tate, SPACE.com Infographics Artist | May 30, 2013 02:00pm ET
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An instrument aboard the Curiosity Mars rover during its 253-day deep-space cruise revealed that the radiation dose received by an astronaut on even the shortest Earth-Mars round trip would be about 0.66 sievert. This amount is like receiving a whole-body CT scan every five or six days.

A dose of 1 sievert is associated with a 5.5 percent increase in the risk of fatal cancers. The normal daily radiation dose received by the average person living on Earth is 10 microsieverts (0.00001 sievert)
...
- See more at: http://www.space.com/21353-space-radiation-mars-mission-threat.html#sthash.lafAL7vj.dpuf
 

Days

Commentator
How about you try and be a little more rational. Notice the radiation exposure for a round trip to Mars is .66 sievert making for a 5.5% increase chance in getting cancer. How long is that trip to Mars and how long were the trips to the Moon?

Space Radiation Threat to Astronauts Explained (Infographic)
By Karl Tate, SPACE.com Infographics Artist | May 30, 2013 02:00pm ET
...
An instrument aboard the Curiosity Mars rover during its 253-day deep-space cruise revealed that the radiation dose received by an astronaut on even the shortest Earth-Mars round trip would be about 0.66 sievert. This amount is like receiving a whole-body CT scan every five or six days.

A dose of 1 sievert is associated with a 5.5 percent increase in the risk of fatal cancers. The normal daily radiation dose received by the average person living on Earth is 10 microsieverts (0.00001 sievert)
...
- See more at: http://www.space.com/21353-space-radiation-mars-mission-threat.html#sthash.lafAL7vj.dpuf
IOW, why can't I go along with all these Lies?
Rubs me the wrong way, I guess.

Basic numbers; what happens during a solar flare?

Those sun spots are nuclear explosions. The average explosion on the face of the sun is about equal to the size of the entire earth. And since they happen on a daily basis, and have been happening forever, and will continue to happen forever, solar flares are not avoidable radiation for space travel. If we ever do venture into manned space flight (beyond Low Earth Orbit) we will absolutely face radiation. How much radiation depends on how many flares we attempt to fly through, and how strong the flares are.

1 Sv = 100 REM

Solar flares last roughly one day on average... anywhere from 12 hours to 36 hours. It is terribly easy to calculate the dosage of radiation you will receive from flying through a solar flare beyond Low Earth Orbit. Of course, if your craft has dosimeters on it, just read the dosimeter... if you are alive and can do that... which you won't be, if you try to fly to Mars during solar maximum, or even during solar minimum. Even a minor flare, on the low end of the scale for flares, is going to kick out 7-10 REM per hour and last for 15 hours. So if your space flight to Mars happens during solar minimum, and you only receive 66 REM (your .66 Sv) flying through the Van Allen Belt, and you managed to fly all the way to Mars and only get hit by five minor solar flares (practically impossible, isn't that trip 2 months?) still, at an average of 8 REM per hour x 75 hours total = 600 REM (oops, you just died). So, at the calmest of months in the calmest year in the solar cycle, you still have to shield against lethal doses of radiation or you won't even make it to Mars.

Why can't you see through Lies this ridiculous? Every time I calculate the Apollo 17 mission, I come up with 5000 REM minimum. The solar flares are on record. Apollo 17 dosimeters recorded 2 REM for the entire mission. They were in Low Earth Orbit. end of story.
 
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IOW, why can't I go along with all these Lies?
Rubs me the wrong way, I guess.

Basic numbers; what happens during a solar flare?

Those sun spots are nuclear explosions. The average explosion on the face of the sun is about equal to the size of the entire earth. And since they happen on a daily basis, and have been happening forever, and will continue to happen forever, solar flares are not avoidable radiation for space travel. If we ever do venture into manned space flight (beyond Low Earth Orbit) we will absolutely face radiation. How much radiation depends on how many flares we attempt to fly through, and how strong the flares are.

1 Sv = 100 REM

Solar flares last roughly one day on average... anywhere from 12 hours to 36 hours. It is terribly easy to calculate the dosage of radiation you will receive from flying through a solar flare beyond Low Earth Orbit. Of course, if your craft has dosimeters on it, just read the dosimeter... if you are alive and can do that... which you won't be, if you try to fly to Mars during solar maximum, or even during solar minimum. Even a minor flare, on the low end of the scale for flares, is going to kick out 7-10 REM per hour and last for 15 hours. So if your space flight to Mars happens during solar minimum, and you only receive 66 REM (your .66 Sv) flying through the Van Allen Belt, and you managed to fly all the way to Mars and only get hit by five minor solar flares (practically impossible, isn't that trip 2 months?) still, at an average of 8 REM per hour x 75 hours total = 600 REM (oops, you just died). So, at the calmest of months in the calmest year in the solar cycle, you still have to shield against lethal doses of radiation or you won't even make it to Mars.

Why can't you see through Lies this ridiculous? Every time I calculate the Apollo 17 mission, I come up with 5000 REM minimum. The solar flares are on record. Apollo 17 dosimeters recorded 2 REM for the entire mission. They were in Low Earth Orbit. end of story.
Your science is all wrong.
 

Days

Commentator
Your science is all wrong.
No it is not. I studied "my science" for 15 years now, and all I did in that post was rate a lower end solar flare's radiation equivalent man output. I didn't even go into the science. You are just being repugnant.

Solar flares for Dummies

Okay, sunspots; what are they? They are solar storms, the weather of the sun, but what exactly are they? They are nuclear fusion chain reaction explosions. A solar flare is an explosion of light, the light itself is exploding. It is magnetic and it produces ions; magnetically charged particles... most notably protons and electrons. The magnetosphere of the earth traps those ions, where upon we label the trapped particles as "high energy particles". Again, we are talking about charged protons and electrons. The high energy particles are radioactive, hence, the high energy makes them highly radioactive.

Lets compare radioactive particles. The electron that is magnetically charged and then sprayed onto your monitor screen packs 30,000 electron volts. The electron that is magnetically charged and then sprayed onto your chest for a chest x-ray at the doctor's office packs 100,000 electron volts. These are low energy particles. The electron the sun charges and emits in solar flares packs one million electron volts. The proton the sun charges and emits in solar flares packs 50-100 million electron volts. These are high energy particles. The radiation encountered in space is the product of solar flares and it is highly radioactive, extremely high as a matter of fact.

So there's some simple science for you to pretend is wrong, of course, it isn't wrong, but if you are too stubborn to admit Apollo missions were obviously hoaxes, you are probably too stubborn to admit that my science is perfectly correct. Feel free to post whatever you think solar flares really are and what they emit. I've never read anything else than my simple explanation given here, but maybe you have a different take on the subject?
 

Days

Commentator
No it is not. I studied "my science" for 15 years now, and all I did in that post was rate a lower end solar flare's radiation equivalent man output. I didn't even go into the science. You are just being repugnant.

Solar flares for Dummies

Okay, sunspots; what are they? They are solar storms, the weather of the sun, but what exactly are they? They are nuclear fusion chain reaction explosions. A solar flare is an explosion of light, the light itself is exploding. It is magnetic and it produces ions; magnetically charged particles... most notably protons and electrons. The magnetosphere of the earth traps those ions, where upon we label the trapped particles as "high energy particles". Again, we are talking about charged protons and electrons. The high energy particles are radioactive, hence, the high energy makes them highly radioactive.

Lets compare radioactive particles. The electron that is magnetically charged and then sprayed onto your monitor screen packs 30,000 electron volts. The electron that is magnetically charged and then sprayed onto your chest for a chest x-ray at the doctor's office packs 100,000 electron volts. These are low energy particles. The electron the sun charges and emits in solar flares packs one million electron volts. The proton the sun charges and emits in solar flares packs 50-100 million electron volts. These are high energy particles. The radiation encountered in space is the product of solar flares and it is highly radioactive, extremely high as a matter of fact.

So there's some simple science for you to pretend is wrong, of course, it isn't wrong, but if you are too stubborn to admit Apollo missions were obviously hoaxes, you are probably too stubborn to admit that my science is perfectly correct. Feel free to post whatever you think solar flares really are and what they emit. I've never read anything else than my simple explanation given here, but maybe you have a different take on the subject?
no response?

Why do people swallow down these enormous whoppers? Why are people willing to allow impossible Lies, just so they can pretend Apollo missions really went to the moon?

If you are in a pure vacuum, you are never ever, ever, not once, not for a moment, going to hear sound travel through a pure vacuum. Okay, stop it, stop pretending that is possible, it is flat out impossible, sound is the vibration of something gaseous, if there is zero gas, there is zero gas to vibrate, hence there is zero sound. You can't accept these Lies. The guy is supposedly pounding something on the moon and his helmet mic is picking up the hammer blows... you CAN NOT pass that Lie, it absolutely 100% was not possible, you can not say that happened on the moon. Cloths are tossed in the air, and they catch air, and float down to the surface; it isn't happening on the moon, there is no air on the moon! Dirt is kicked up from tires and it catches air and falls back to the surface, first of all, it is obviously dirt and not moon dust, secondly, the dirt is dead stopped by the atmosphere, obviously on earth. You can't just swallow Lie after Lie after Lie after Lie... the men are chatting in dead silence as their retro rockets are firing 15 feet below their asses... jet engines have 120 decibels, rocket engines have 140 decibels, not only would the tiny LEM not be silent, the men would be deaf for life, that's how loud it should have been. Lie after Lie, like the LEM having no air lock, in a pure vacuum with no airlock, that is just nonsense. Where is the outer frame holding back the double thick aluminum foil walls? how much pressure was on those walls? The men supposedly took off their suits and slept in a fully pressurized cabin... do the math, 32 pounds per square inch acting on double thick aluminum foil with no frame work to hold back those walls... how many tons of pressure were acting on the aluminum foil... and it didn't even bulge. what a joke. These Lies were so bad they were kindergarten level Lies, yes, Cindy, pigs can fly, they just flap their ears, or was that elephants? You CAN NOT pretend these Lies happened on the moon.

Apollo 4 was the first ever mission to perform re-entry. No humans on board, so I wonder how they flew it remote control, don't you? DON'T YOU? Or is it okay, no matter how ridiculous these Lies get?

So Apollo 4 performs re-entry at roughly 25,000 miles per hour. piece of cake, they hit the atmosphere like a meteor, and you know what happens to meteors right? They burn up, they explode, man, not once in a while, every frickin' time forever. But not Apollo 4, it has special pixie dust, so it flies right into our atmosphere and suffers zero damage, first time ever and we don't even get a burn mark on the paint. Ya gotta love aluminum capsules that can fly through 5000 degree heat for two minutes and suffer zero damage, zero markings, hell, not even take on any heat, that's some air conditioning, eh? Two minutes under an acetylene torch and the cabin does not raise in temperature even a fraction of a degree. Try this, take an acetylene torch to 3 inches of aluminum, see how long it takes to cut through it, 5000 degrees over the entire surface for five seconds and you have a liquid aluminum space capsule, people. Okay, they had heat shields, never mind that the capsule would tumble and explode in roughly 15 seconds time, but let's pretend it was rock solid at 25,000 miles per hour and maintained the atmospheric impact directly on the tiles, what about the heat burning all around the capsule? Look at a meteor, it is a fireball, the rock is consumed on all sides, and if their is any pockets, like you know - an airtight cabin - it explodes. But hell, let's go the whole impossible story, you still have a 5000 degree fireball melting the aluminum sides. But not if you just make up the whole story and Lie... then, shit, no problem, two minutes of 5000 degree heat and it didn't raise the temp in the cabin a fraction of a degree, just like the rest of the story, we flew to the moon on no fuel, went through enough radiation to die, sometimes five times over dead, and felt zero radiation, walked around the moon and kicked all that razor sharp obsidium with our playtex bra boots, never suffered a single cut, never suffered any radiation from the moon surface, the cabin never heated up even though it had only compressed air to cool it, never needed to take a piss for days on end, shot a microwave signal back to earth through a dish without even adjusting it; see when you are real good, you can make the first landing ever on the moon so that the two foot fixed dish on the roof of the LEM is aimed directly at Australia... which is pretty important when the signal is so weak it won't last the first 1000 miles of the 230,000 mile hop.

Lie after Lie after Lie... how did you fly through solar maximum and not suffer any radiation poisoning again? Oh, there wasn't any. I see, but what about all those solar flares? Oh, they didn't have any radiation poisoning, I guess the sun was shooting blanks during that solar maximum. Oh wait, years later in your memoirs you admit that you got that wrong? So those solar flares were the same old solar flares the sun has put out for 5 billion years? But you are sticking with the zero radiation poisoning, eh? I guess they had to, after all, every Apollo mission had dosimeters and they plainly read zero radiation for every trip, which was only possible if they stayed in low earth orbit. But why believe the truth? Isn't it funner to use your imagination? Okay here we go, put the simulation drawing on the screen and tell the people that the Apollo mission is now in blackout while it goes through re-entry, now hold the suspense, let's see if our human meteorites survived 5000 degrees... and there you have it, every single mission not only survived, the cabins did not heat up a single degree, not even a fraction of a single degree. Who's afraid of two minutes under an acetylene torch? Apollo missions could do anything, hell they could make sound travel in a perfect vacuum!
 

Days

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So, just for the heckuvit, why not ask me? You know, the obvious question... at what temp does aluminum melt?

Aluminum/Melting point

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1,221°F
660.3°C

Melting Points of Various Metals
Melting Points
Metal
Fahrenheit (f) Celsius (c)
Aluminum 1218 659
Brass 1700 927
Bronze 1675 913
Cast Iron 2200 1204
Copper 1981 1083
Gold 1945 1063
Lead 327 163
Magnesium 1204 651
Nickel 2646 1452
Silver 1761 951
Steel 2500 1371
Tungsten 6150 3399
Wrought Iron 2700 1482
Zinc 787 419


What else is going on during the fireball that can't touch all the Apollo missions? Well, they must be firing the retro rockets to slow down, dontchathink? So toss in a little rocket burn at that 25,000 mph head wind. Why is there always a fireball created by meteors? Hey, 5000 degrees is going to ignite the oxygen in the atmosphere, dontchathink? Why would NASA be this stupid? Why wouldn't they fire the retro rockets just before they hit the atmosphere? The answer is twofold, first of all, I'm not sure the script wasn't foisted upon them by the CIA, but either way, the point was to do the impossible, to shock and awe the people, distract them from protesting the Vietnam War, doing an intelligent re-entry isn't shocking enough, so let's fly an aluminum capsule straight into 5000 degrees, that should amaze everyone.

What was amazing ... was the people were so stupid they didn't know enough to be amazed. Apollo missions didn't even hold their attention, so NASA went crazier and crazier with them, and the sheep swallowed it all down whole. I think the only people that were amazed was NASA, at how much stupidity you people were willing to swallow and not even question.

Ever cut steel with a blow torch? I have. You know how, first you put the tip of the inner cone right on the spot you want to start cutting, wait about 5 seconds for the steel to start melting, then press the oxygen and it blows right through the steel. If you have a big enough source of heat to cover the entire space capsule (and you do) - then the 25,000 mph head wind is going to blow away the entire aluminum capsule in about one second, probably faster, and the capsule will never last long enough to see 5000 degrees, it will be totally gone long before that, aluminum melts at 1200 degrees.

See, that's what happens when you fly a 3 inch aluminum capsule at 25,000 mph into the atmosphere. It doesn't survive more than 15 seconds, tops, and when that fireball hits the pure oxygen in the cabin, it is going to explode. You wont ever see 5000 degrees, it will be long gone before then, once the aluminum began to melt, it was over in an instant... you might get sprinkles of exploded heat tiles sprinkling down to earth, so at least that much would have made it back to earth.

Meanwhile, in never never land...

Apollo 4 – A Great Success (Link)

watch the video recording of the command module shedding its last booster rocket... see all that blue sky? Where is the rocket? In Low Earth Orbit. duh. That's where all the rockets went, it took all the fuel for the mission to get 250 miles above the earth and attain orbit, that's what all the missions did. nothing more. How much of the earth's gravity have you escaped at 250 miles? Not atmosphere... gravity! think, try to think, gravity! What is gravity? How big is the planet (8000 miles in diameter) how much gravity have you escaped at 250 miles? And you are out of fuel. So you spent everything to make it into low earth orbit, but now the pixie dust kicks in and you ramp up speed from 17,000 mph orbit to 25,000 mph space travel and you escape the remaining 99% of the earth's gravity over the next 200,000 miles, with no fuel, but hey, you have pixie dust, don't you? You damn well better have pixie dust, because you've spent both your rocket boosters (totally filled with fuel) to make it 250 miles up and attain orbit. The command module is tiny and isn't even filled with fuel, you don't have any fuel left, just barely enough to brake and make a slow descent. Gravity doesn't end at 250 miles, quit thinking that... the rockets had enough fuel/were designed to make it into low earth orbit - that's all folks. The rest of the story was total fiction.

How hot was Apollo 13 on reentry? (Link)
 
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See, that's what happens when you fly a 3 inch aluminum capsule at 25,000 mph into the atmosphere. It doesn't survive more than 15 seconds, tops, and when that fireball hits the pure oxygen in the cabin, it is going to explode. You wont ever see 5000 degrees, it will be long gone before then, once the aluminum began to melt, it was over in an instant...
So where did I get the idea that they flew the missions like that? 25,000 mph into re-entry creating 5000 degrees (F)... who ever said anything that crazy?

I mostly wanted to see if I could copy/paste the answer, now that they are publishing the old script in pdf format...



APOLLO FLIGHT TESTS

The Apollo flight test program up to September,
1968, included space tests of four command and
service modules, one lunar module, and space and
atmospheric tests of 10 boilerplate (test) command
and service modules. These tests were conducted
under the "all-up" philosophy of testing as many
things simultaneously as possible and thus minimizing
the number of launches, as well as cost and time.
The program is aimed at designing the spacecraft
so that all launches contribute to its development.
The command and service modules are being
developed separately from the lunar module; this
permits both modules to be tested on the smaller
Saturn I B launch vehicle. The test program depends
on the Saturn V only for missions that require its
large payload.
Another test program goal has been maximum
development on the ground; space flights have been
undertaken only with spacecraft with almost all
systems aboard and operating.
An example of this philosophy of combining
many tests on one flight was the Apollo 6 mission
on April 4, 1968. This mission included the second
flight of a Saturn V launch vehicle as well as a
number of important spacecraft tests.
Although launch vehicle problems caused selection
of an alternate mission and prevented achievement
of some major objectives, NASA termed the spacecraft's
accomplishments impressive. These included
the longest single burn in space of the service propulsion
engine (7 minutes, 25 seconds), proper control
of the engine during this burn by the guidance
and navigation subsystem, proper maintenance of
spacecraft attitude by the reaction control subsystem
during the long cold soak period, and
another successful test of the spacecraft's heat
shield. This also was the first space test of the new
unified crew hatch and seals and they withstood the
mission in good condition.
The first flight of the Saturn V was on Nov. 9,
1967, in the Apollo 4 mission, which also was a
major test of the CM's heat shield, service propulsion
subsystem, guidance and navigation equipment,
and environmental control subsystem. The
major objectives of Apollo 4, all fulfilled, were: the
first launch of the Saturn V first stage, the first
P-44 Apollo development sequence
flight of the hydrogen-powered second stage, restart
of the third stage in earth orbit, restart of the
service propulsion engine in space and its record firing
for nearly 5 minutes, a hot and cold soak of the
spacecraft far out in space, and entry under the
severest conditions yet encountered by a spacecraft
(a velocity of 24,913 miles per hour and a heat
shield temperature of about 5,000 degrees F).

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Some comedy team had a skit about this. In order to fake a moon landing, they needed to have a real blastoff, which costs almost as much. Adding to that the cost of the fake landing, it wound up far too expensive for the government to pull off. Can you imagine how much a fake 9/11 would have cost? And what it would say about the hopelessness of resisting such a super-intelligent ruling class?
 
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