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SpyGate: When ever Trumpies accuse you of something, it is something they are doing themselves.

Spamature

President
So there is proof they claimed to be associated with the Kremlin, but where is the proof they, you know, actually were? Where is the indication Hillary even came up in the convoersation? You (in fact) have no proof Don Jr. wasn't going to turn them in the minute they offered something that actually incriminated Hillary. And lets not forget that the Clinton campaign was doing the same thing (obtain incriminating information from Russian government sources that they could use against Trump) and ACTUALLY ACTED ON IT.
No different than a police hitman sting.

Cop pretends to be hitman.
You meet with him to discuss killing your spouse.
You're guilty of conspiracy to commit murder right there.

Hillary was the subject of the meeting and the enticement offered to Trump before the meeting took place, and it was already agreed upon. Plus the admissions from Trump Jr about the meeting.

As far as Trump acting upon the Russian attack. You are acting as if no one ever saw the 2016 election. It was literally most of his campaign. He even publicly requested another Russian attack and they followed his commands.
 

Raoul_Luke

I feel a bit lightheaded. Maybe you should drive.
Do you mean obtaining information by spying on Russian government sources? And by “the Clinton campaign” do you mean the FBI? And by “acted on it” do you mean they took measures to address the possibility of a Russian attack?

If Don Jr. intended to “turn them over” then why did he describe the prospect of getting information from the Kremlin using the phrase “I love it” (in private communication to someone else from his campaign) and tie it to the timing of the campaign?
The overarching facts are:

1. Veselnitskaya met with Clinton Campaign associates bothe before and after the meeting.

2. They provided no information about Clinton whatsoever.

Simple logic tells you this "meeting" was engineered to further the Clinton Campaign's "Russian collusion narrative." Oh, and by the way, we have the internal FBI agent internal records, personal emails and campaign donations - all of which suggest the FBI was acting as an arm of the Clinton Campaign operation.
 

Raoul_Luke

I feel a bit lightheaded. Maybe you should drive.
No different than a police hitman sting.

Cop pretends to be hitman.
You meet with him to discuss killing your spouse.
You're guilty of conspiracy to commit murder right there.

Hillary was the subject of the meeting and the enticement offered to Trump before the meeting took place, and it was already agreed upon. Plus the admissions from Trump Jr about the meeting.

As far as Trump acting upon the Russian attack. You are acting as if no one ever saw the 2016 election. It was literally most of his campaign. He even publicly requested another Russian attack and they followed his commands.
Or, more accurately, it was like a hitman posing as a hitman who comes to you and talks about his grandmother, and then accuses you of being a hitman.
 

EatTheRich

President
The overarching facts are:

1. Veselnitskaya met with Clinton Campaign associates bothe before and after the meeting.

2. They provided no information about Clinton whatsoever.

Simple logic tells you this "meeting" was engineered to further the Clinton Campaign's "Russian collusion narrative." Oh, and by the way, we have the internal FBI agent internal records, personal emails and campaign donations - all of which suggest the FBI was acting as an arm of the Clinton Campaign operation.
We don’t know whether they provided information about Clinton … the only indication that they didn’t was the self-interested denials of the Trump campaign.

We do know that the FBI was described as “Trump country” due to the strong preference for Trump among the majority of its agents and particularly its leadership, and that Comey went out of his way to interfere in a way that was crucial to Trump’s victory.

What Clinton associates did Veselnitskaya meet with now?
 
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