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Taking a knee in America

EatTheRich

President
She posted two lies- in post #12 she said Eric Garner had his "neck" "crushed". That was untruthful.
Then in post #77 she said the cop had "his big fat knee on Garner's neck", also untrue.

And when are you going to back up your lie that Zimmerman "changed his story" and admitted chasing after and "catching up to" Trayvon? You think I forgot Nina isn't the only liar in this thread?
You are equivocating on meanings of “crushed.” Obviously she meant that he was unable to breathe since his air supply was constricted by the officer. Anyway, do the medical minutiae of how exactly the officer’s illegal chokehold caused his death really matter that much?

In the other comment, it is obvious that she meant to say, “Floyd’s neck.”
Yeah, the man made them pull the trigger. That's the ANSWER to your criminal base. LOL.
The simple fact is that social conditions in some places are much more conducive to violence than others.
 

Mick

The Right is always right
There were 7407 Black people murdered in the U.S. in 2018 according to Statista.com. There were 209 (not included in the above figure) killed by police, all of them legally innocent until proven guilty. Meaning the number of Black deaths would have been reduced nearly 3% if cops didn’t kill innocent people (ignoring the extent to which police murder helps violent gangs control the cities).
Here you go again. Trying desperately to suggest that every black person killed by police was somehow the target of a racist conspiracy. Thugs attacking police officers do get shot..and will continue to get shot. Reduce the violent crime, reduce the thugs, the required shootings of these people will end. It is really an easy answer.

Look, as long as you suggest the 209 blacks shot were "innocent people" you have on credibility on this forum or topic. Period. That's why no sane person listens to your garbage. It's fake.
 

Mick

The Right is always right
67% of murders with Black or Hispanic victims are solved as per Scripps Howard.
"Homicide arrest rates vary widely when examined by the race of the victim: An arrest was made in 63 percent of the killings of white victims, compared with 48 percent of killings of Latino victims and 46 percent of the killings of black victims."


A white murderer is more likely to be arrested and apprehended than a black murderer. Why continue to post lies here? Like i said above, you've got on credibility on the topic because you have lied through your rotted out teeth on it for so long. Ignoring real data in exchange for talking out of the ass and making up accusations.
 

EatTheRich

President
Here you go again. Trying desperately to suggest that every black person killed by police was somehow the target of a racist conspiracy. Thugs attacking police officers do get shot..and will continue to get shot. Reduce the violent crime, reduce the thugs, the required shootings of these people will end. It is really an easy answer.

Look, as long as you suggest the 209 blacks shot were "innocent people" you have on credibility on this forum or topic. Period. That's why no sane person listens to your garbage. It's fake.
You don’t believe in the principle that people are innocent until proven guilty? The only reason it is “required” that police act as judge, jury, and executioner is that the courts and prisons by themselves aren’t enough to maintain bourgeois class rule.
 

EatTheRich

President
"Homicide arrest rates vary widely when examined by the race of the victim: An arrest was made in 63 percent of the killings of white victims, compared with 48 percent of killings of Latino victims and 46 percent of the killings of black victims."


A white murderer is more likely to be arrested and apprehended than a black murderer. Why continue to post lies here? Like i said above, you've got on credibility on the topic because you have lied through your rotted out teeth on it for so long. Ignoring real data in exchange for talking out of the ass and making up accusations.
It’s behind a paywall but likely that refers to a particular city and not to the U.S. as a whole.
 

Mick

The Right is always right
You don’t believe in the principle that people are innocent until proven guilty? .
We someone is being attacked by a violent criminal there really isn't time time for "judge and jury" when your life is on the line. You're a fraud and a joke. Nothing you say here is to be taken seriously.
 

Mick

The Right is always right
It’s behind a paywall but likely that refers to a particular city and not to the U.S. as a whole.
It's federal data. The article cites it. Whites are being held to account more often than blacks when they commit homicides. Well, hey, ain't that a kick in the pants to your inane conspiracies. Oh.....and whites are more often shot by police officers than blacks. By golly.......these numbers aren't going well for you now, are they?
 

EatTheRich

President
We someone is being attacked by a violent criminal there really isn't time time for "judge and jury" when your life is on the line. You're a fraud and a joke. Nothing you say here is to be taken seriously.
More than half of the Blacks killed by police are unarmed. Many are shot while not resisting, while attempting to surrender, while retreating, from a considerable distance, etc. If police weren’t being very aggressive and starting confrontations with peaceful people simply to maintain an atmosphere of fear, they wouldn’t be “threatened” as much.
 

EatTheRich

President
It's federal data. The article cites it. Whites are being held to account more often than blacks when they commit homicides. Well, hey, ain't that a kick in the pants to your inane conspiracies. Oh.....and whites are more often shot by police officers than blacks. By golly.......these numbers aren't going well for you now, are they?
Whites are shot more often because there are more whites. A given Black person is 2.5 times as likely to be shot by police as a given white person, and a given unarmed Black person is 5 times as likely to be shot by police as a given unarmed white person. When you say that white offenders are being held to account more often, are you similarly failing to account for population disparities?
 

Mick

The Right is always right
Whites are shot more often because there are more whites. A given Black person is 2.5 times as likely to be shot by police as a given white person, and a given unarmed Black person is 5 times as likely to be shot by police as a given unarmed white person. When you say that white offenders are being held to account more often, are you similarly failing to account for population disparities?

Blacks are 6 times more likely to be involved in committing a violent crime. Of course, they are going to be shot at higher rates because they are involved in violent interactions at higher rates. Old ladies being shot by police officers virtually NEVER happens. Why? They aren't getting into violent interactions with cops.

You don't have credibility on this issue. You'll lie, distort, make up you own numbers......and when it all fails you'll then claim mass conspiracy. Please stop posting. Sane people are tired of reading it.
 

Mick

The Right is always right
More than half of the Blacks killed by police are unarmed. Many are shot while not resisting, while attempting to surrender, while retreating, from a considerable distance, etc. If police weren’t being very aggressive and starting confrontations with peaceful people simply to maintain an atmosphere of fear, they wouldn’t be “threatened” as much.
Most were shot while "attempting to surrender or retreating"? You want to back that up with viable proof? You won't because you can't. And being unarmed doesn't mean much when you threaten to have a weapon. Blacks are not shot while unarmed at disproportionate rates to their rates of committing violent crime.
 

EatTheRich

President
Blacks are 6 times more likely to be involved in committing a violent crime. Of course, they are going to be shot at higher rates because they are involved in violent interactions at higher rates. Old ladies being shot by police officers virtually NEVER happens. Why? They aren't getting into violent interactions with cops.

You don't have credibility on this issue. You'll lie, distort, make up you own numbers......and when it all fails you'll then claim mass conspiracy. Please stop posting. Sane people are tired of reading it.
Blacks are more likely to commit violent crimes because those are the jobs the “free market” is more likely to make available to them. Eleanor Bumpurs was shot by cops when she was an old lady, wasn’t she?
 

Mick

The Right is always right
Blacks are more likely to commit violent crimes because those are the jobs the “free market” is more likely to make available to them. Eleanor Bumpurs was shot by cops when she was an old lady, wasn’t she?
Got it. Now the facts prove they are being shot when deserved (for the vast majority of the cases) so now you pivot to claiming african americans now have no free will when they choose to commit crime. The position gets less sane.
 

EatTheRich

President
Most were shot while "attempting to surrender or retreating"? You want to back that up with viable proof? You won't because you can't. And being unarmed doesn't mean much when you threaten to have a weapon. Blacks are not shot while unarmed at disproportionate rates to their rates of committing violent crime.
I didn’t use the word “most,” I used “many” which means something else. “Threaten to have a weapon”? Either you have one or not. Cops do not have a right to shoot you because you might at some future point have a weapon (as is your 2nd Amendment right) and then might afterward pose a threat.
 

EatTheRich

President
Got it. Now the facts prove they are being shot when deserved (for the vast majority of the cases) so now you pivot to claiming african americans now have no free will when they choose to commit crime. The position gets less sane.
Did you think that almost all the Black peoples shot by police were committing violent crimes? They weren’t. Are you saying that innocent Black people deserve to be shot because other Black people commit crimes at higher rates than white people do?
 

Mick

The Right is always right
I didn’t use the word “most,” I used “many” which means something else. “Threaten to have a weapon”? Either you have one or not. Cops do not have a right to shoot you because you might at some future point have a weapon (as is your 2nd Amendment right) and then might afterward pose a threat.
The cop doesn't shoot because he thinks he may get a weapon tomorrow. He shoots because he thinks the suspect has one NOW. Once again, muddy the waters with left wing propaganda, lies, and garbage. Until you deal with actual statistics with full disclosure then I'm done commenting on your drivel.
 

Dino

Russian Asset
You are equivocating on meanings of “crushed.” Obviously she meant that he was unable to breathe since his air supply was constricted by the officer. Anyway, do the medical minutiae of how exactly the officer’s illegal chokehold caused his death really matter that much?

In the other comment, it is obvious that she meant to say, “Floyd’s neck.”

The simple fact is that social conditions in some places are much more conducive to violence than others.
Thanks, I enjoy reading and am always impressed by your mind-reading skills.
but a crushed throat would be fatal, that didn’t happen in the Garner case. Saying so is not a technicality, it’s a lie.
 

EatTheRich

President
The cop doesn't shoot because he thinks he may get a weapon tomorrow. He shoots because he thinks the suspect has one NOW. Once again, muddy the waters with left wing propaganda, lies, and garbage. Until you deal with actual statistics with full disclosure then I'm done commenting on your drivel.
So why are Black people they shoot twice as likely to be unarmed as white people they shoot?
 
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