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The American right is now officially the worst group in the world.

Drumcollie

Ending Racism with or without Hillary
America should be out spreading the fight against the virus, not the fight against, the fight against the virus.

Their jihad is spreading.
Right now 2000 people per day are DYING in the US because of this efforts.


It will kill more people than AQ, ISIS A thru Z and every terrorist network combined.
If it is not stopped, MILLIONS will die.




Biden is failing to lead.
 

Drumcollie

Ending Racism with or without Hillary
NO, we do not know that. Your claim is something approaching be made the f*ck up.

You're going to pretend they all of a sudden for some other unknown reason the ICU units all over the country are filled to capacity.

It is willful BS like this that makes my top post seem like a compliment rather than a complaint.
What we do know is Biden is failing to lead. Now prove it by blaming Trump.
 

Drumcollie

Ending Racism with or without Hillary
So you are saying if you put two different groups together, they are larger than the antivax jihadist group.

Maybe ?

But that is only half of the story.

Where are the Black or youth oriented propaganda campaign to prevent people from wearing masks or getting vaccinated.

Where are the Black leaders who are blocking vaccination and outreach to the unvaccinated.

Where are they passing laws to aid the virus in spreading ?

Where are their national news networks spreading virus and vaccine disinformation and fears about getting vaccinated?

Stop giving credit for your success to the takers who aren't contributing with your kind of effort.
Who is in charge...Obviously not Biden. Failure to lead on Biden's* part. Now prove it by blaming Trump.
 

EatTheRich

President
So one-third are vaccinated? Then the vaccine doesn't work! Which is evident if you follow the left's logic on this. Why is it that you all are so freaked out about people not getting vaccinated if the vaccination protects you? It used to be said that you wanted to protect those who can't get the vaccine, but, of course, that reason disintegrated with the announcement that the vaccinated can catch and transmit the virus. So let them alone - they get to make their own choice about injecting shit into their body. This is America, or at least used to be...
Obviously it does work quite well if 5/6 of the people are vaccinated but only 1/3 of those with serious Covid cases. It means the vaccinated are getting sick at less than a1/9 the background rate … in a country where variant vaccine-resistant forms of the virus are surging due to the reservoir of unvaccinated people that allow the virus to remain in circulation.
 

EatTheRich

President
That is laughable - are you really going to stand there and suggest we have to lock down and never open up again, even after most are vaccinated? That is sick - YOU are sick!
No, we could be like Denmark and perhaps never need that again … if we had their levels of vaccination.
 

EatTheRich

President
We now know that the hospitalizations and deaths attributed to covid-19 are overstated by something approaching one hundred percent. So the hospitalization rate, and the death rate, are really approximately half of what has been hyped by the gaslight media. Which, of course, means that covid-19 is roughly as bad as a bad flu bug. So yeah, you were just pwned.
We “know” that how? When’s the last time a flu bug killed 668,000 Americans (or 334,000 if you arbitrarily cut that number in half based on your unsupported assertion)?
 

EatTheRich

President
Yeah, it’s not tough - merely fruitless. Marxist faith isn’t exactly well known for the trait of careful, reasoned consideration of multiple ideas and then selecting for “best” or “proper”.
“Marxist faith” is an oxymoron. Science is in fact the essence of Marxist reasoning.
 

Spamature

President
How is that going to stop the deaths from Biden's* failure to lead? Now prove it by blaming Trump.
Maybe he can talk some sense into his fellow Trumpies.
If not, then they can have chosen to have Rona's babies until she suffocates them to death.
 

Raoul_Luke

I feel a bit lightheaded. Maybe you should drive.
We “know” that how? When’s the last time a flu bug killed 668,000 Americans (or 334,000 if you arbitrarily cut that number in half based on your unsupported assertion)?
Interestingly, it comes to us via The Atlantic:

Researchers have tried to get at similar questions before. For two separate studies published in May, doctors in California read through several hundred charts of pediatric patients, one by one, to figure out why, exactly, each COVID-positive child had been admitted to the hospital. Did they need treatment for COVID, or was there some other reason for admission, like cancer treatment or a psychiatric episode, and the COVID diagnosis was merely incidental? According to the researchers, 40 to 45 percent of the hospitalizations that they examined were for patients in the latter group.

The authors of the paper out this week took a different tack to answer a similar question, this time for adults. Instead of meticulously looking at why a few hundred patients were admitted to a pair of hospitals, they analyzed the electronic records for nearly 50,000 COVID hospital admissions at the more than 100 VA hospitals across the country. Then they checked to see whether each patient required supplemental oxygen or had a blood oxygen level below 94 percent. (The latter criterion is based on the National Institutes of Health definition of “severe COVID.”) If either of these conditions was met, the authors classified that patient as having moderate to severe disease; otherwise, the case was considered mild or asymptomatic.

The study found that from March 2020 through early January 2021—before vaccination was widespread, and before the Delta variant had arrived—the proportion of patients with mild or asymptomatic disease was 36 percent. From mid-January through the end of June 2021, however, that number rose to 48 percent. In other words, the study suggests that roughly half of all the hospitalized patients showing up on COVID-data dashboards in 2021 may have been admitted for another reason entirely, or had only a mild presentation of disease.


Our Most Reliable Pandemic Number Is Losing Meaning (msn.com)

That means the .26 fatality rate is more like .13, about where a bad flu bug falls:

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Raoul_Luke

I feel a bit lightheaded. Maybe you should drive.
Obviously it does work quite well if 5/6 of the people are vaccinated but only 1/3 of those with serious Covid cases. It means the vaccinated are getting sick at less than a1/9 the background rate … in a country where variant vaccine-resistant forms of the virus are surging due to the reservoir of unvaccinated people that allow the virus to remain in circulation.
Yes, that's a great reason to get vaccinated, but is still a crappy reason for a mandate.
 

Raoul_Luke

I feel a bit lightheaded. Maybe you should drive.
NO, we do not know that. Your claim is something approaching be made the f*ck up.

You're going to pretend they all of a sudden for some other unknown reason the ICU units all over the country are filled to capacity.

It is willful BS like this that makes my top post seem like a compliment rather than a complaint.
Researchers have tried to get at similar questions before. For two separate studies published in May, doctors in California read through several hundred charts of pediatric patients, one by one, to figure out why, exactly, each COVID-positive child had been admitted to the hospital. Did they need treatment for COVID, or was there some other reason for admission, like cancer treatment or a psychiatric episode, and the COVID diagnosis was merely incidental? According to the researchers, 40 to 45 percent of the hospitalizations that they examined were for patients in the latter group.

The authors of the paper out this week took a different tack to answer a similar question, this time for adults. Instead of meticulously looking at why a few hundred patients were admitted to a pair of hospitals, they analyzed the electronic records for nearly 50,000 COVID hospital admissions at the more than 100 VA hospitals across the country. Then they checked to see whether each patient required supplemental oxygen or had a blood oxygen level below 94 percent. (The latter criterion is based on the National Institutes of Health definition of “severe COVID.”) If either of these conditions was met, the authors classified that patient as having moderate to severe disease; otherwise, the case was considered mild or asymptomatic.

The study found that from March 2020 through early January 2021—before vaccination was widespread, and before the Delta variant had arrived—the proportion of patients with mild or asymptomatic disease was 36 percent. From mid-January through the end of June 2021, however, that number rose to 48 percent. In other words, the study suggests that roughly half of all the hospitalized patients showing up on COVID-data dashboards in 2021 may have been admitted for another reason entirely, or had only a mild presentation of disease.


Our Most Reliable Pandemic Number Is Losing Meaning (msn.com)
 

Raoul_Luke

I feel a bit lightheaded. Maybe you should drive.
No

I said a spike should be expected.
Not that we need permanent lock downs.

I am just pointing out that this is strong evidence that masks and other measures work.
Contrary to your previous claims.

Yes that country did have a near record High 834 infections of 2 deaths on the same day.

But when we had 200k infections and 2000 deaths on several days this week.

95% efficacy is not 100% efficacy.
But it is better than certain death by suffocation for 3% of the unvaccinated population.
Well at least the commie liked your propaganda post)

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Spamature

President
Researchers have tried to get at similar questions before. For two separate studies published in May, doctors in California read through several hundred charts of pediatric patients, one by one, to figure out why, exactly, each COVID-positive child had been admitted to the hospital. Did they need treatment for COVID, or was there some other reason for admission, like cancer treatment or a psychiatric episode, And the COVID diagnosis was merely incidental? According to the researchers, 40 to 45 percent of the hospitalizations that they examined were for patients in the latter group.

The authors of the paper out this week took a different tack to answer a similar question, this time for adults. Instead of meticulously looking at why a few hundred patients were admitted to a pair of hospitals, they analyzed the electronic records for nearly 50,000 COVID hospital admissions at the more than 100 VA hospitals across the country. Then they checked to see whether each patient required supplemental oxygen or had a blood oxygen level below 94 percent. (The latter criterion is based on the National Institutes of Health definition of “severe COVID.”) If either of these conditions was met, the authors classified that patient as having moderate to severe disease; otherwise, the case was considered mild or asymptomatic.

The study found that from March 2020 through early January 2021—before vaccination was widespread, And before the Delta variant had arrived—the proportion of patients with mild or asymptomatic disease was 36 percent. From mid-January through the end of June 2021, however, that number rose to 48 percent. In other words, the study suggests that roughly half of all the hospitalized patients showing up on COVID-data dashboards in 2021 may have been admitted for another reason entirely, or had only a mild presentation of disease.


Our Most Reliable Pandemic Number Is Losing Meaning (msn.com)
THEY ARE TURNING ADULTS AWAY FROM HOSPITALS AND SETTING UP DEATH PANELS TO DECIDE WHO LIVES AND WHO DIES.

The things you are saying are abominable. You are going to try to lie about something we see right in front of us.

This is evil nothing more, nothing less.
 
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