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The big lie

PNWest

America's BEST American: Impartial and Bipartisan
So you still refuse to reject the big lie pushed by Stacey Abrams and Biden's DOJ in this case?

Obama appointed judge: "Plaintiffs have not provided direct evidence of a voter who was unable to vote, experienced longer wait times, was confused about voter registration status.”


You agree or not?
I haven't examined the case enough to form an opinion. The fact that a decent judge appointed by a President elected by the majority of Americans made the decision means that the judge made a decision based on the facts as he saw them.
 

JohnJohnson

Council Member
Repeating the same lies over and over again will not make them more convincing.
Trump first tried to overturn millions of votes by court cases that sought to throw out votes in the battleground states. He failed.

John Eastman wrote a plan up to overturn the election by challenging the count of electors.

READ: Trump lawyer’s memo on six-step plan for Pence to overturn the election
READ: Trump lawyer's memo on six-step plan for Pence to overturn the election | CNN Politics

When Pence repeatedly told Trump that he did not have the authority, under the constitution, to challenge electors Trump called for a wild demonstration on January 6th.

Why the 6th? If the idea was to persuade members of congress to question those elections in the battleground states, wouldn't it have made more sense to have called for a protest in December? The only reason for the 6th was because that was the day of the count. The very last day that the count could be interrupted or changed.

The riot was exactly what Trump wanted. Trump wanted the republican legislatures to illegally have appointed a replacement set of electors and probably hoped the mob would kill or capture Pence or members of congress...

That is why he sat watching on TV for three f*cking hours and did not send reinforcements. No other excuse. When it was obvious that all of congress and Pence had been evacuated and were beyond the reach of the mob...he finally told them to go home...

I've answered your other crap. Nobody spied on the Trump campaign or White House. The info the lawyer took to the FBI about the Russian bank was thrown out as irrelevant and was based on publicly available DNS data and was a goofy interpretation of that data that was ignored by the FBI.
Start your own thread. No one cares about screeds.
 

JohnJohnson

Council Member
I haven't examined the case enough to form an opinion. The fact that a decent judge appointed by a President elected by the majority of Americans made the decision means that the judge made a decision based on the facts as he saw them.
So you agree that Biden and Democrats calling it Jim Crow 2.0 is the big lie?
 

middleview

President
Supporting Member
Obama appointed judge Steve C. Jones:

"Plaintiffs have not provided direct evidence of a voter who was unable to vote, experienced longer wait times, was confused about voter registration status.”

Is he speaking the truth or are you helping to push the big lie?
Care to comment on the 61 lawsuits filed by Trump's allies?
 

PNWest

America's BEST American: Impartial and Bipartisan
So you agree that Biden and Democrats calling it Jim Crow 2.0 is the big lie?
I'd answer that but I like to follow the rules.

Let me ask you a question as the newly appointed deputy moderator..

Isn't your post a deliberate attempt at thread derailment.

Why don't you go and ...... er... report yourself?
 

Dawg

President
Supporting Member
I'd answer that but I like to follow the rules.

Let me ask you a question as the newly appointed deputy moderator..

Isn't your post a deliberate attempt at thread derailment.

Why don't you go and ...... er... report yourself?
Weal, especially for you and actually NO CONTENT
 

Bugsy McGurk

President
Obama appointed judge Steve C. Jones:

"Plaintiffs have not provided direct evidence of a voter who was unable to vote, experienced longer wait times, was confused about voter registration status.”

Is he speaking the truth or are you helping to push the big lie?
Repeating that one sentence in no way confronts what I said. Of course, you can’t confront what I said. So I win.
 

Bugsy McGurk

President
I haven't examined the case enough to form an opinion. The fact that a decent judge appointed by a President elected by the majority of Americans made the decision means that the judge made a decision based on the facts as he saw them.
I provided this quote from the opinion above, along with a link explaining the full case:

“This is a voting rights case that resulted in wins and losses for all parties over the course of the litigation and culminated in what is believed to have been the longest voting rights bench trial in the history of the Northern District of Georgia,” Jones wrote.”

The winger dullard ignores that and keeps repeating one sentence from the last part of the case as if the Abrams camp proved nothing and won nothing. The winger lies, as always.
 

protectionist

Governor
Did she try to overturn the election by calling a mob to show up for a wild rally and riot in Atlanta? Trump just had a rally and is still saying the election was stolen. The only place I hear of any claim by Abrams is when you bring it up.
Did Trump try to overturn an election by calling a mob to show up for a wild rally and riot in DC ? Of course not. This is THE BIG LIE that Democrats push, when the whole country saw him tell supporters to protest "PEACEFULLY & PATRIOTICALLY"

Democrats don't get it that their lying to the American people is why they are going to lose both houses of Congress next month + lose the presidency, 2 years from now.

Of course Trump still says the election was stolen, and that he was the winner.. Do we not still say that the LA Rams won the Super Bowl earlier this year ?
 

middleview

President
Supporting Member
Did Trump try to overturn an election by calling a mob to show up for a wild rally and riot in DC ? Of course not. This is THE BIG LIE that Democrats push, when the whole country saw him tell supporters to protest "PEACEFULLY & PATRIOTICALLY"

Democrats don't get it that their lying to the American people is why they are going to lose both houses of Congress next month + lose the presidency, 2 years from now.

Of course Trump still says the election was stolen, and that he was the winner.. Do we not still say that the LA Rams won the Super Bowl earlier this year ?
The whole country saw him say "fight like hell or you won't have a country". So why did a riot happen minutes later?
 

JohnJohnson

Council Member
Care to comment on the 61 lawsuits filed by Trump's allies?
This thread is not about Trump. We call that TDS.

I'll give you one short comment before I stop you from further derailing my thread and the moderators ignoring it. Had Trump focused on the fact that Dem secretary of state's and others had unilaterally fudged election laws in order to benefit Joe Biden and also pursued the fact that Biden and Democrats had used collusion with big tech to influence the outcome the results of those lawsuits would have been much differently. Focusing on voting machines and such wasn't it. That's my last comment on that within this thread.

Now the topic. Based upon the judge's ruling and findings do you agree that Joe Biden and Democrats calling the Georgia law Jim Crow 2.0 was a big fat lie? Yes or no?
 

JohnJohnson

Council Member
I'd answer that but I like to follow the rules.

Let me ask you a question as the newly appointed deputy moderator..

Isn't your post a deliberate attempt at thread derailment.

Why don't you go and ...... er... report yourself?
No, you are thread derailing with your post. This thread is about the big lie Dems pushed about Georgia's election laws and your refusal to admit it.
 

JohnJohnson

Council Member
Repeating that one sentence in no way confronts what I said. Of course, you can’t confront what I said. So I win.
This is what the judge said:

"Plaintiffs have not provided direct evidence of a voter who was unable to vote, experienced longer wait times, was confused about voter registration status."


Do you agree with this statement or is the law Jim Crow 2.0 as Joe Biden said? You keep dancing around it by hinting that you think the judge's finding was bullshit but you are too chicken to admit your support for the big lie. You should be utterly ashamed.
 

Bugsy McGurk

President
This is what the judge said:

"Plaintiffs have not provided direct evidence of a voter who was unable to vote, experienced longer wait times, was confused about voter registration status."


Do you agree with this statement or is the law Jim Crow 2.0 as Joe Biden said? You keep dancing around it by hinting that you think the judge's finding was bullshit but you are too chicken to admit your support for the big lie. You should be utterly ashamed.
You should try reading posts instead of ranting and repeating things that have already been addressed.

For the third time, a quote from the opinion:

“This is a voting rights case that resulted in wins and losses for all parties over the course of the litigation and culminated in what is believed to have been the longest voting rights bench trial in the history of the Northern District of Georgia,” Jones wrote.”

www.nbcnews.com

Federal judge rules against Stacey Abrams group in voting rights lawsuit
Fair Fight Action, which first filed the suit in 2018, had argued that Georgia's rules are discriminatory and unconstitutional.
www.nbcnews.com
www.nbcnews.com

Plaintiffs won some of their claims and lost some. Your winger tunnel vision leads you to obsess only over the last claim addressed by the judge.

Was it fair to refer to the law as Jim Crowe 2.0? Of course. The law was designed to limit voting of blacks and other likely Dem voters. Don’t you know that?
 
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EvMetro

Mayor
Did she try to overturn the election by calling a mob to show up for a wild rally and riot in Atlanta? Trump just had a rally and is still saying the election was stolen. The only place I hear of any claim by Abrams is when you bring it up.
Trump won. Abrams lost.
 
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