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The big lie

JohnJohnson

Council Member
At least two of the FBI’s surveillance applications to secretly monitor former Trump campaign adviser Carter Page lacked probable cause, according to a newly declassified summary of a Justice Department assessment released Thursday by the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court (FISC).

So the extensions were not properly justified. It does not mean they were illegal. If they were, why hasn't Durham prosecuted anyone?
Simple....because proving beyond a reasonable doubt that someone intended corrupt act as opposed to a corrupt act is not always doable. The warrants were illegal......and you claim there was probable cause. So why did you lie?
 

JohnJohnson

Council Member
This thread has nothing to do with Trump so quite trying to derail it.

You still haven't accepted the court's findings that there was no evidence of any voter being disenfranchised and the court also agreeing that election security was the most pressing part of this whole matter. Why? Humiliated?
 

middleview

President
Supporting Member
Simple....because proving beyond a reasonable doubt that someone intended corrupt act as opposed to a corrupt act is not always doable. The warrants were illegal......and you claim there was probable cause. So why did you lie?
The IG said two of the four were questionable. Not all four. He did not say any were illegal.
 

JohnJohnson

Council Member
The IG said two of the four were questionable. Not all four. He did not say any were illegal.
He refused to back to the first two and said the final 2 were outright unlawful.

"At least two of the FBI’s surveillance applications to secretly monitor former Trump campaign adviser Carter Page lacked probable cause, according to a newly declassified summary of a Justice Department assessment released Thursday by the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court (FISC)."

Looneyville....where water isn't wet and black is white. You keep embarrassingly trying to pretzel the findings.

 

JohnJohnson

Council Member
Damn. Are you Rainman?
He's talking to you:


"Plaintiffs have not provided direct evidence of a voter who was unable to vote, experienced longer wait times, was confused about voter registration status."


So I'll ask you for a 10th time. Do you accept those findings and condemn Joe Biden and Democrats' big lie of calling it "Jim Crow on steroids"?
 

middleview

President
Supporting Member
He refused to back to the first two and said the final 2 were outright unlawful.

"At least two of the FBI’s surveillance applications to secretly monitor former Trump campaign adviser Carter Page lacked probable cause, according to a newly declassified summary of a Justice Department assessment released Thursday by the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court (FISC)."

Looneyville....where water isn't wet and black is white. You keep embarrassingly trying to pretzel the findings.

Where did he say they were illegal?
 

Dawg

President
Supporting Member
There was no rhyme or reason to what happened on 1/6 what you and Liz (she lost right?), and all the other Soviets claim is complete and utter bullshit. The election was never in any danger of "being overtuned that day"... none the less we know how disappointed you are that you could not have shot them all twice. 1/6 has been exgerated beyond measure so your betters can carry out a political persecution.

What is not bullshit, spying on Trumps campaign in 2016 and later his Presidency, lying to get FISA warrants, re-writing Michael Flynn's FBI report, manufacting electronic data to make the POTUS look like he was tied to a bank in Russia, claiming Hunters Laptop was Russian Disinformation, FBI suppressing any investigation into it and leaning on social media companies to do the same,

Shall I go on?
but MV sold his GUN but doesn't know who toooooooo
 

Bugsy McGurk

President
He's talking to you:


"Plaintiffs have not provided direct evidence of a voter who was unable to vote, experienced longer wait times, was confused about voter registration status."


So I'll ask you for a 10th time. Do you accept those findings and condemn Joe Biden and Democrats' big lie of calling it "Jim Crow on steroids"?
Hey Rainman, I hear you’re an excellent driver.

True?

;-)
 
The IG said two of the four were questionable. Not all four. He did not say any were illegal.
They were all fraudelent, given his purview he could not review all of them. The FBI confirmed that the information in them was verified, we know this is false because it ALL based on the Steele Dossier which could NOT be verified. Why? Because it was made up by a guy at the Brookings Institute and his drunk Russian friends. Which of course the FBI knew but lied to the court anyway in order to spy on Trumps campaign.

You know this, yet you pretend that you don't, re-word your question or statement and put your sad debunked talking point back on the board...
 

middleview

President
Supporting Member
They were all fraudelent, given his purview he could not review all of them. The FBI confirmed that the information in them was verified, we know this is false because it ALL based on the Steele Dossier which could NOT be verified. Why? Because it was made up by a guy at the Brookings Institute and his drunk Russian friends. Which of course the FBI knew but lied to the court anyway in order to spy on Trumps campaign.

You know this, yet you pretend that you don't, re-word your question or statement and put your sad debunked talking point back on the board...
The dossier, in fact, was correct about Carter Page. Since the Fisa warrant was about him...what false info do you think relevant? Hookers peeing on a bed?
 
Another ridiculous response when he knows full well what the answer is.

The dossier, in fact, was correct about Carter Page. Since the Fisa warrant was about him...what false info do you think relevant? Hookers peeing on a bed?
The paid FBI informant that made up the dossier for Steele littered it with enough public knowledge to keep Steele paying him and his friends. Pages public speaking engagements were NOT enough to get a warrant on anyone. Everything else regarding Page was bullshit, never verified and bottom line, THE FBI LIED TO THE FISA COURT TO GET THE WARRANTS, and kept lying to get them renewed. Why they lied about Page having been an asset in 2014, calling him for interview would not have allowed them to backdoor themselves into Trumps campaign.

The hookers peeing on the bed, another gem that Danshenko tossed in and Steele kept, had nothing to do with Page as you know, but was none the less more made up bullshit to undermine a Presidential candidate and later a duly elected POTUS.

You must be so proud to still be defending this.
 

middleview

President
Supporting Member
Another ridiculous response when he knows full well what the answer is.



The paid FBI informant that made up the dossier for Steele littered it with enough public knowledge to keep Steele paying him and his friends. Pages public speaking engagements were NOT enough to get a warrant on anyone. Everything else regarding Page was bullshit, never verified and bottom line, THE FBI LIED TO THE FISA COURT TO GET THE WARRANTS, and kept lying to get them renewed. Why they lied about Page having been an asset in 2014, calling him for interview would not have allowed them to backdoor themselves into Trumps campaign.

The hookers peeing on the bed, another gem that Danshenko tossed in and Steele kept, had nothing to do with Page as you know, but was none the less more made up bullshit to undermine a Presidential candidate and later a duly elected POTUS.

You must be so proud to still be defending this.
What in the first Fisa app about Page was false?
 

middleview

President
Supporting Member
THAT THE INFORMATION WAS VERIFIED BY THE FBI

Take your time, use your finger, sound out the words....
Did Page meet with the Deputy Prime Minister? Did he meet with the #2 guy at Gazprom? Did he brag about being an advisor to the Kremlin?
 

middleview

President
Supporting Member
They were all fraudelent, given his purview he could not review all of them. The FBI confirmed that the information in them was verified, we know this is false because it ALL based on the Steele Dossier which could NOT be verified. Why? Because it was made up by a guy at the Brookings Institute and his drunk Russian friends. Which of course the FBI knew but lied to the court anyway in order to spy on Trumps campaign.

You know this, yet you pretend that you don't, re-word your question or statement and put your sad debunked talking point back on the board...
"Could not review all of them" and yet you and the other right winger here say the IG reported that all four were illegal. Which is it?

In fact, he did review all four and the evidence is all over the report.
 
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