The right wing lie about Margret Sanger and racism.

[RickWA]

Yes, because the mainstream right firmly agreed with her that eugenics were good, but disagreed with her by holding that its aims should be consciously racist and that “respectable” whites should not have the freedom to use contraception.

No. Actually, she is exactly who her direct words portray her to be…in stark contrast to leftist revisionist whitewashing that we see attempted in this thread. Bad news.

 

[Spamature]

More of Ms. Sanger, in her own words:

1. "But for my view, I believe that there should be no more babies."
-- Interview with John Parsons, 1947

2. "The most merciful thing that the large family does to one of its infant members is to kill it."
-- Woman and the New Race, Chapter 5, "The Wickedness of Creating Large Families." (1920) http://www.bartleby.com/1013/

3. "We don’t want the word to go out that we want to exterminate the Negro population..."
-- Letter to Dr. Clarence J. Gamble, December 10, 1939, p. 2

4. “I accepted an invitation to talk to the women's branch of the Ku Klux Klan... I was escorted to the platform, was introduced, and began to speak...In the end, through simple illustrations I believed I had accomplished my purpose. A dozen invitations to speak to similar groups were proffered.”
-- Margaret Sanger, An Autobiography, published in 1938, p. 366
https://libex.smith.edu/omeka/...

5. “I think the greatest sin in the world is bringing children into the world, that have disease from their parents, that have no chance in the world to be a human being practically... Delinquents, prisoners, all sorts of things just marked when they’re born. That to me is the greatest sin—that people can—can commit.”
-- Interview with journalist Mike Wallace, 1957

6. “The most serious evil of our times is that of encouraging the bringing into the world of large families. The most immoral practice of the day is breeding too many children..."
-- Sanger, Margaret. Woman and the New Race (1920). Chapter 5: The Wickedness of Creating Large Families. http://www.bartleby.com/1013/5...

7. “Eugenics without birth control seems to us a house builded [sic] upon the sands. It is at the mercy of the rising stream of the unfit.”
-- Sanger, Margaret. (1919) Birth Control and Racial Betterment. The Birth Control Review.

8. “As an advocate of birth control, I wish to take advantage of the present opportunity to point out that the unbalance between the birth rate of the ‘unfit’ and the ‘fit,’ admittedly the greatest present menace to civilization, can never be rectified by the inauguration of a cradle competition between these two classes.”
-- Sanger, Margaret. (1921) The Eugenic Value of Birth Control Propaganda. The Birth Control Review, p. 5. http://birthcontrolreview.net/...

9. “The most urgent problem today is how to limit and discourage the over-fertility of the mentally and physically defective.”
-- Sanger, Margaret. (1921) The Eugenic Value of Birth Control Propaganda, Birth Control Review, p. 5
https://www.nyu.edu/projects/s...

10. "No more children should be born when the parents, though healthy themselves, find that their children are physically or mentally defective.”
-- Sanger, Margaret. (1918) When Should A Woman Avoid Having Children? Birth Control Review, Nov. 1918, 6-7, Margaret Sanger Microfilm, S70:807.
https://www.nyu.edu/projects/s...

11. “A marriage license shall in itself give husband and wife only the right to a common household and not the right to parenthood."
-- Margaret Sanger, "America Needs a Code for Babies," Article 3, 27 Mar 1934.
https://www.nyu.edu/projects/s...

12. "No woman shall have the legal right to bear a child, and no man shall have the right to become a father, without a permit for parenthood."
-- Margaret Sanger, "America Needs a Code for Babies," Article 4, March 27, 1934.

13. "Permits for parenthood shall be issued upon application by city, county, or state authorities to married couples, providing they are financially able to support the expected child, have the qualifications needed for proper rearing of the child, have no transmissible diseases, and, on the woman’s part, no medical indication that maternity is likely to result in death or permanent injury to health."
-- Margaret Sanger, "America Needs a Code for Babies," Article 5, March 27, 1934.

14. "No permit for parenthood shall be valid for more than one birth..."
-- Margaret Sanger, "America Needs a Code for Babies," Article 6, March 27, 1934.

15. "Apply a stern and rigid policy of sterilization and segregation to that grade of population whose progeny is tainted, or whose inheritance is such that objectionable traits may be transmitted to offspring."
-- Sanger, Margaret. “My Way to Peace,” Jan. 17, 1932. Margaret Sanger Papers, Library of Congress 130:198. https://www.nyu.edu/projects/s...

16. "... these two words [birth control] sum up our whole philosophy... It means the release and cultivation of the better elements in our society, and the gradual suppression, elimination and eventual extinction, of defective stocks -- those human weeds which threaten the blooming of the finest flowers of American civilization."
-- Margaret Sanger, "High Lights in the History of Birth Control," Oct 1923.
https://www.nyu.edu/projects/s...

17. "Organized charity itself is the symptom of a malignant social disease..."
-- Sanger, Margaret (1922). The Pivot of Civilization.

18. "My own position is that the Catholic doctrine is illogical, not in accord with science, and definitely against social welfare and race improvement."
-- Margaret Sanger, "The Pope's Position on Birth Control," Jan. 27, 1932.
https://www.nyu.edu/projects/s...

19. “All of our problems are the result of overbreeding among the working class... Knowledge of birth control is essentially moral. Its general, though prudent, practice must lead to a higher individuality and ultimately to a cleaner race.”
-- Margaret Sanger, "Morality and Birth Control," Feb-Mar 1918.
http://www.nyu.edu/projects/sa...

20. “Feeble-mindedness perpetuates itself from the ranks of those who are blandly indifferent to their racial responsibilities. And it is largely this type of humanity we are now drawing upon to populate our world for the generations to come. In this orgy of multiplying and replenishing the earth, this type is pari passu multiplying and perpetuating those direst evils in which we must, if civilization is to survive, extirpate by the very roots.”
-- Margaret Sanger, The Pivot of Civilization, 1922
https://www.scribd.com/documen...

21. “Birth control itself, often denounced as a violation of natural law, is nothing more or less than the facilitation of the process of weeding out the unfit, of preventing the birth of defectives or of those who will become defectives… If we are to make racial progress, this development of womanhood must precede motherhood in every individual woman.” -- “Woman and the New Race,” 1920

I will just deal with the 3 you put in bold, and #3 has already been deal with in this thread.

2.

Here is the chart included in that articl and why she held that position.
Because once the numbers start to climb so do the deaths of children the woman gives birth to.



3. WTF ?

You people really do dig for scraps.
This video does actually prove how phony this argument is because it basically a joke and it still is based upon rational thought and by no means racist.

She wanted women to stop having kids for 10 yrs, not that they should be sterilized.
And even then she says its a personal decision left up to the family.

If the rest are like these 3 (almost certainly they are) you and @God of War , are shooting blanks,

Margret would approve.

 

[Spamature]

No. Actually, she is exactly who her direct words portray her to be…in stark contrast to leftist revisionist whitewashing that we see attempted in this thread. Bad news.

Don't embarrass yourself by depending on facts and information from right wingers here or their sources.

White or not, in the wash everything comes out.

 

[Spamature]

Say…that is “progressive for her time”.

~shakes head~

She would be racially progressive if she in the Trump administration of 2016.

At least, she wanted a black doctor to be in charge of something that has to do with medicine.

The Trumpies dumped their doctor in the role of managing the HUD projects
I guess that's where they assumed that's where all the other blacks were.

 

[God of War]

Where is the link ?
Post it and if it says what you say it says, you have an apology coming.

Post it and reveal the truth !

From post #2 by Colorforms. Watch the video of Sanger and her over arching viewpoint on life.

21 Quotes by Margaret Sanger that Will Probably Make You Sick

Yes, share them to unmask Planned Parenthood.

tfpstudentaction.org

 

[God of War]

@Spamature

 

[Spamature]

From post #2 by Colorforms. Watch the video of Sanger and her over arching viewpoint on life.

21 Quotes by Margaret Sanger that Will Probably Make You Sick

Yes, share them to unmask Planned Parenthood.

tfpstudentaction.org

I posted it.

It proves you guys are lying about her.
The video is a staged interview, and the content of the interview is practically whimsical in its presentation.

Insincerely, she is proposing a 10 yr halt in having children and the decision should be left up to the family.

 

[Spamature]

@Spamature

I debunked the first 3.
I won't waste any more time debunking the rest.

You should do that.

Because now you owe it to her to walk back the right smears you've helped spread.

 

[God of War]

I debunked the first 3.
I won't waste any more time debunking the rest.

You should do that.

Because now you owe it to her to walk back the right smears you've helped spread.

You didn't debunk shit.

 

[God of War]

I posted it.

It proves you guys are lying about her.
The video is a staged interview, and the content of the interview is practically whimsical in its presentation.

Insincerely, she is proposing a 10 yr halt in having children and the decision should be left up to the family.

Don't believe your lying eyes leftist response again?

 

[Spamature]

You didn't debunk shit.

The first 3 in bold were DEBUNKED.
That is why you can't give any details on how they weren't.

You just fold your arms, pout your lips, and sink into a denial of the facts in front of you.

MAGA !

 

[Spamature]

Don't believe your lying eyes leftist response again?

I posted the actual video.

None of you did, now, did you ?

 

[God of War]

I posted the actual video.

None of you did, now, did you ?

It's okay you didn't watch our video and we didn't watch yours. Ours is valid and all that matters to me.

 

[God of War]

The first 3 in bold were DEBUNKED.
That is why you can't give any details on how they weren't.

You just fold your arms, pout your lips, and sink into a denial of the facts in front of you.

MAGA !

1) Margaret Sanger was a misanthrope.

2) She clearly embraced eugenics in the most severe terms. Eugenics IS the scientific cover term for racism.

3) The notion that blacks weren't at the very bottom of that totem pole is absurd. If not for genetics simply being unable to adequately provide for was reason to destroy life in her mind and blacks at the time in her mind, setting aside genetics, would not be fit to live.

Thanks for playing. Don't pass go. Don't collect $200. Go straight to intellectually challenged jail.

 

[Zam-Zam]

No you aren't, which is why you excluded parts of her letter and you pretend that Eugenics in relationship to people with mental infirmities is about black people.

Now think about what you just did.

The real racist believe that blacks are mental inferiors, and equivocal to the simple-minded.

And you just backed them up in your attempt to smear Sanger.

I quoted her directly, with sources.

I edited nothing, added nothing of my own.

And, unlike you, I made no attempt to "explain" what she meant.

So, I guess you're wrong.

 

[Zam-Zam]

I will just deal with the 3 you put in bold, and #3 has already been deal with in this thread.

2.

Here is the chart included in that articl and why she held that position.
Because once the numbers start to climb so do the deaths of children the woman gives birth to.

View attachment 71097

3. WTF ?

You people really do dig for scraps.
This video does actually prove how phony this argument is because it basically a joke and it still is based upon rational thought and by no means racist.

She wanted women to stop having kids for 10 yrs, not that they should be sterilized.
And even then she says its a personal decision left up to the family.

If the rest are like these 3 (almost certainly they are) you and @God of War , are shooting blanks,

Margret would approve.

I'm fine with taking her at her word.

Apparently, that doesn't work for you.

 

[Spamature]

1) Margaret Sanger was a misanthrope.

2) She clearly embraced eugenics in the most severe terms. Eugenics IS the scientific cover term for racism.

3) The notion that blacks weren't at the very bottom of that totem pole is absurd. If not for genetics simply being unable to adequately provide for was reason to destroy life in her mind and blacks at the time in her mind, setting aside genetics, would not be fit to live.

Thanks for playing. Don't pass go. Don't collect $200. Go straight to intellectually challenged jail.

1. I believe that your opinion.

2. I believe that's something you made up.

3. I believe that is actually how you really feel when compared to the statements in many of your post.

Thanks for playing. Don't pass go. Don't collect $200. Go straight to intellectually challenged jail.

 

[RickWA]

Don't embarrass yourself by depending on facts and information from right wingers here or their sources.

White or not, in the wash everything comes out.

Margaret Sanger? Dude. Really? I hear Diane Downs needs some image rehab as well.

What the heck?

 

[God of War]

1. I believe that your opinion.

2. I believe that's something you made up.

3. I believe that is actually how you really feel when compared to the statements in many of your post.

Thanks for playing. Don't pass go. Don't collect $200. Go straight to intellectually challenged jail.

Your reality is a house of mirrors all pointing to you. Enjoy your own reflection.

 

[God of War]

What the heck?

This is about @Spamature salvaging the creation story of abortion to give it a moral veneer. An imprimatur of godliness. You know like so many churches have done for homosexuality, communists, nazis and false religions of all kinds as merely different paths to the same place.