The true value of Fox News...

[Boca]

is you can tune in a couple of times a day for a few minutes and find out what's not being reported elsewhere.

Is Fox biased? Well yeah....they are...they keep looping truth and it even bores me sometimes.

It's denial though that causes libs and dems to hate Fox. They want Fox banned simply because they can't cope with even tidbits of real world news and happenings.

 

[Zoar]

is you can tune in a couple of times a day for a few minutes and find out what's not being reported elsewhere.

Is Fox biased? Well yeah....they are...they keep looping truth and it even bores me sometimes.

It's denial though that causes libs and dems to hate Fox. They want Fox banned simply because they can't cope with even tidbits of real world news and happenings.

Oh, my, this is the funniest thread yet! Bobo, you do realize Fox is banned in many places because it is well known and wholly established that it is just Right Wing lies, misinformation, propaganda and partisan messaging!!! Ask any real journalist about Fox "News" and they will laugh in your face!

These things that everyone else clearly sees as partisan, lies and propaganda you characterize as "truth".

You have been snickered! They feed you lies and you really believe it is the truth.

Poor Bobo.

 

[Jen]

is you can tune in a couple of times a day for a few minutes and find out what's not being reported elsewhere.

Is Fox biased? Well yeah....they are...they keep looping truth and it even bores me sometimes.

It's denial though that causes libs and dems to hate Fox. They want Fox banned simply because they can't cope with even tidbits of real world news and happenings.

Most Liberals do not want to see any stories but those that promote LIberalism.

I agree that the loop on Fox gets old after a while (that's why I only watch certain shows there, not everything always). And certainly, Fox is biased toward the right.

Wouldn't it be nice if we had news sources with a middle view that also told those stories?

And wouldn't it be a good thing if ALL the stories were told even by leftists networks?

Too much to hope for.
Leftists want an echo chamber that is full of their own propaganda -- being careful to omit anything that doesn't promote the left agenda.

 

[Zoar]

Here is another glaring example of how much Fox lies: the PJ Right wing have been screaming about the reports they have heard, such as on Fox, about the Imminent Threat on our southern border and that the US government is issuing the warning... Well here is what the US Gov is actually saying: "No imminent threat.":

http://www.dispatch.com/content/stories/national_world/2014/08/30/no-imminent-threat-to-u-s--officials-say.html

You Fox loving Righties love being lied to every day, tens of times a day!

 

[GreenBean]

Oh, my, this is the funniest thread yet! Bobo, you do realize Fox is banned in many places because it is well known and wholly established that it is just Right Wing lies, misinformation, propaganda and partisan messaging!!! Ask any real journalist about Fox "News" and they will laugh in your face!

These things that everyone else clearly sees as partisan, lies and propaganda you characterize as "truth".

You have been snickered! They feed you lies and you really believe it is the truth.

Poor Bobo.

Do you realize that Fox is percieved as being very very dangerous by the Fascist Liberal Machine ? They would certainly love to have it banned - but the people are reawakening to reality , and being yanked out of the Liberal-Fascist induced trance that 30 years of brainweashing and left wing propaganda has inflicted on them. The Ratings of Fox vs the Big Brother Media are proof of that -

Where is Fox banned anywhere in the USA ?

Where is Fox banned anywhere in the World ? And please , I mean pulll-leeze don't tell me you fell for that liberal media propaganda - socilist lie that Fox is banned in Canada - because it's bogus .

So kindly enlighten me - where pray tell is Fox , probably the most Honest News available in the Modern World, banned - I'm all ears .

 

[Jen]

Do you realize that Fox is percieved as being very very dangerous by the Fascist Liberal Machine ? They would certainly love to have it banned - but the people are reawakening to reality , and being yanked out of the Liberal-Fascist induced trance that 30 years of brainweashing and left wing propaganda has inflicted on them. The Ratings of Fox vs the Big Brother Media are proof of that -

Where is Fox banned anywhere in the USA ?

Where is Fox banned anywhere in the World ? And please , I mean pulll-leeze don't tell me you fell for that liberal media propaganda - socilist lie that Fox is banned in Canada - because it's bogus .

So kindly enlighten me - where pray tell is Fox , probably the most Honest News available in the Modern World, banned - I'm all ears .

Liberals would love to see Fox News banned.
It's their dream.
They are desperate for an echo chamber of their lies.

 

[GreenBean]

Liberals would love to see Fox News banned.
It's their dream.
They are desperate for an echo chamber of their lies.

They've had it for nearly 3o years . Larry Moe and Curly . Also known as CBS, NBC and ABC.

Still waiting for an answer to where Fox is banned as was claimed by the liberal as few posts back - that seems to be all they have left is lies , distortion, deflections followed by more lies .


OT : Hey I typed in "L I B T A R D" and the site corrected it to Liberal - I think thats kind of Ironic - even the program knows ....lol ....

 

[Jen]

They've had it for nearly 3o years . Larry Moe and Curly . Also known as CBS, NBC and ABC.

Yes they have. And now they have added MSNBC and some others that lean mostly left.

But Leftists cannot tolerate any dissension or any media mode that pushes out anything but what they want people to see. Fox does that. So, in their eyes, Fox must go away.

 

[GreenBean]

Yes they have. And now they have added MSNBC and some others that lean mostly left.

But Leftists cannot tolerate any dissension or any media mode that pushes out anything but what they want people to see. Fox does that. So, in their eyes, Fox must go away.

War on Fox News


Media Manipulation
For decades the Left has controlled and monopolized Mass Media in the United States. Mass media including television, movies, the print media, and digital formats. It became impossible for the average American to watch or read any form of entertainment without being bombarded with the liberal left agenda perpetually and at times blatantly blasted in their faces, Orwellian 1984 had arrived .................

Gallup Polls have indicated that most Americans hold the media in very low esteem, they have very little confidence in the main stream media to report ANYTHING fairly. In 2011 a 60% majority reported a perception of media bias, with 47% saying that it was too liberal, and 13% too conservative. Given the history and known leftist slant that has infiltrated the Gallup organization I would chance to say that those numbers in reality may actually be higher. Continually year after year since 2002 more Americans polled believe that the media shows brazen liberal left wing bias..................

Since its inception Media Matters for America has incessantly hounded and scrutinized Fox News. Its hoard of paid staffers scrutinizes every aspect of the network. Its corporate officers, hosts, guests, curriculum, financial dealings and so forth. Should Fox fail to dot an i or cross a T Media Matters mongrels salivatiuosly await the opportunity to pounce, and pounce they do. No other mainstream media outlet has ever had to endure the relentless assaults and vindictive attacks endured by Fox.

Media Matters Executive Vice President Angelo Carusone declared in December 2013 The war on Fox is over...And it's not just that it's over, but it was very successful. To a large extent, we won.

However what Carusone failed to acknowledge is that Fox News ratings are very strong, in fact stronger than its two primary rivals combined.

 

[EatTheRich]

What bothers me about Fox News is not just the conservative bias, but the deliberate airing of false stories and inflammatory propaganda. But I don't want to see it banned and I don't think most liberals and Democrats do either.

"Fascist Liberal" is a contradiction in terms, as Benito Mussolini explains in The Doctrine of Fascism:

Fascism is definitely and absolutely opposed to the doctrines of liberalism, both in the political and the economic sphere.

http://www.worldfuturefund.org/wffmaster/reading/germany/mussolini.htm

 

[Caroljo]

Yes they have. And now they have added MSNBC and some others that lean mostly left.

But Leftists cannot tolerate any dissension or any media mode that pushes out anything but what they want people to see. Fox does that. So, in their eyes, Fox must go away.

They call it lies and propaganda because that's what they're told. Their handlers don't want them to know the truth, so they tell them it's all lies and they believe it. Talk about weak minds....but some are waking up. I even noticed it on our local news channels...they're not so much Obamabots anymore!

 

[GreenBean]

What bothers me about Fox News is not just the conservative bias, but the deliberate airing of false stories and inflammatory propaganda. But I don't want to see it banned and I don't think most liberals and Democrats do either.

"Fascist Liberal" is a contradiction in terms, as Benito Mussolini explains in The Doctrine of Fascism:


http://www.worldfuturefund.org/wffmaster/reading/germany/mussolini.htm

False Stories ??!!

Lmao - You mean Politically Inconvenient Stories.
Lefties have been fishing and scrutinizing for undotted I's and uncrossed Ts or anything even remotely resembling errors in anything coming out of Fox for years now - One left wing organization - Media Matters - has teams of paid staffers whose sole responsibility is to scrutinize and attempt to tear apart anything Fox produces - anything.

Other organizations have full time employees whose sole responsibility is to dissaude advertisers on Fox and promote boycotts of products from advertisers on Fox -Hundreds of left wing imbeciles work day and night - for the sole purpose of destroying Fox . Fox is Dangerous to your warped perceptions of reality.

Be Afraid - Be very Afraid !

"False stories and inflammatory propaganda" , you want to talk about "false stories and inflammatory propaganda" - here's one for you from the Golden Years of Liberal-Fascist Propaganda -when they had no opposition or fair and balanced News such as Fox.

The Wall Within
Vietnam Veterans - Invented Story / Bogus Vets

In June 1988, CBS presented an hour-long special "CBS Reports: The Wall Within" . The show was praised by critics, the Washington Post called it "extraordinarily powerful" One Vet Terry Bradley, told Rather he had tortured and skinned alive whole Vietnamese families, 50 men, women, and children in a single hour. George Grule claimed he was stationed on the U.S.S. Ticonderoga off the Vietnamese coast during a secret mission. Grule claimed to have witnessed a friend walk into an airplane propeller which turned him into mincemeat and sprayed Grule with his blood. Coaxed by Dan Rather, Steve Southards, vividly described slaughtering hordes of Vietnamese civilians, and blaming the North Vietnamese. "... you went into the village, killed people, burned part of the village, then made it appear that the other side had done this?" Rather replied. Grizzly fantastic horrifying tales, ALL FABRICATED - ---

B. G. Burkett and Glenna Whitley, in their book * Stolen Valor : How the Vietnam Generation Was Robbed of Its Heroes and Its History

*, claim that they had obtained the service records of all six soldiers, documenting where each was stationed throughout the Vietnam War. Only one of the men actually served in Vietnam; he claimed he was a Navy SEAL, but the records contradicted his claims and listed him as an equipment repairman , the other 5 never even set foot on Vietnamese soil. I can understand and possibly forgive One charlatan slipping through, but not 6 !!!!

 

[GreenBean]

What bothers me about Fox News is not just the conservative bias, but the deliberate airing of false stories and inflammatory propaganda. But I don't want to see it banned and I don't think most liberals and Democrats do either.

"Fascist Liberal" is a contradiction in terms, as Benito Mussolini explains in The Doctrine of Fascism:


http://www.worldfuturefund.org/wffmaster/reading/germany/mussolini.htm

Re:Your Link from one of your Socio-Fascist forebears Benito Mussolini.

It is irrelevant , for starters - allthough it uses the terms Liberal - it is referring to classical Liberalism of a bygone era - who are not the same creatures as todays idiots who run around calling themselves "Liberals and Progressives" two entirely different animals.

Modern day liberalism - asshat liberalism - is populated by hoards of useful idiots , much like yourself . clueless, pompous, self engrandizing products of decades of indoctrination who are incapable of independent thought outside the bubble of Big Brothers officially approved parrotted Dogma.

 

[EatTheRich]

False Stories ??!!

Lmao - You mean Politically Inconvenient Stories.
Lefties have been fishing and scrutinizing for undotted I's and uncrossed Ts or anything even remotely resembling errors in anything coming out of Fox for years now - One left wing organization - Media Matters - has teams of paid staffers whose sole responsibility is to scrutinize and attempt to tear apart anything Fox produces - anything.

Other organizations have full time employees whose sole responsibility is to dissaude advertisers on Fox and promote boycotts of products from advertisers on Fox -Hundreds of left wing imbeciles work day and night - for the sole purpose of destroying Fox . Fox is Dangerous to your warped perceptions of reality.

Be Afraid - Be very Afraid !

"False stories and inflammatory propaganda" , you want to talk about "false stories and inflammatory propaganda" - here's one for you from the Golden Years of Liberal-Fascist Propaganda -when they had no opposition or fair and balanced News such as Fox.

No, I mean false stories. Fox literally went to court to argue for the right to deliberately lie to its audience.
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2007/07/31/364678/-Fox-News-wins-in-court

 

[EatTheRich]

Re:Your Link from one of your Socio-Fascist forebears Benito Mussolini.

It is irrelevant , for starters - allthough it uses the terms Liberal - it is referring to classical Liberalism of a bygone era - who are not the same creatures as todays idiots who run around calling themselves "Liberals and Progressives" two entirely different animals.

Modern day liberalism - asshat liberalism - is populated by hoards of useful idiots , much like yourself . clueless, pompous, self engrandizing products of decades of indoctrination who are incapable of independent thought outside the bubble of Big Brothers officially approved parrotted Dogma.

I hold Mussolini in contempt, as did the communists of his time--at a time when the likes of Winston Churchill had the warmest things to say about him. Here are a few more quotes from The Doctrine of Fascism to make clear where he was actually coming from:

The Fascist conception of life is a religious one

Fascism istherefore opposed to all individualistic abstractions based on eighteenth century materialism; and it is opposed to all Jacobinistic utopias and innovations. It does not believe in the possibility of "happiness" on earth as conceived by the economistic literature of the XVIIIth century, and it therefore rejects the theological notion that at some future time the human family will secure a final settlement of all its difficulties.

What can be meant by "Jacobinistic utopias and innovations" other than progressive politics? Isn't striving toward happiness on earth foundational for progressive politics?

Fascism is therefore opposed to Socialism

So, opposed to classical liberalism and also to socialism? Is there some other liberalism that is not an amalgamation of these?

Equally foreign to the spirit of Fascism, even if accepted as useful in meeting special political situations -- are all internationalistic or League superstructures

Such as the UN. But don't liberals tend to be big fans of those sorts of organizations?

Such a conception of life makes Fascism the resolute negation of the doctrine underlying so-called scientific and Marxian socialism

This means that Fascism denies the equation: well-being = happiness, which sees in men mere animals, content when they can feed and fatten, thus reducing them to a vegetative existence pure and simple.

Mussolini decrying the liberals' "welfare plantation."

In rejecting democracy Fascism rejects the absurd conventional lie of political equalitarianism, the habit of collective irresponsibility, the myth of felicity and indefinite progress.

The Fascist State sees in religion one of the deepest of spiritual manifestations and for this reason it not only respects religion but defends and protects it.

 

[GreenBean]

No, I mean false stories. Fox literally went to court to argue for the right to deliberately lie to its audience.
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2007/07/31/364678/-Fox-News-wins-in-court

FOX, Lies & Videotape: debunking an internet myth

Another Liberal Urban Legend / Myth / Lie - Boy oh boy I wish you were a fish, because you are certainly easy to reel in - I mean you seem to swallow anything Big Brother throws at you - hook, line, and sinker .

Akre and Wilson sued WTVT alleging… that their terminations had been in retaliation for their resisting WTVT’s attempts to distort or suppress the BGH story and for threatening to report the alleged news distortion to the FCC. Akre also brought claims for declaratory relief and for breach of contract. After a four-week trial, claims. The trial court directed a verdict against Akre on her breach of contract claim, Akre abandoned her claim for declaratory relief, and the trial court let her whistle-blower claims go to the jury. The jury rejected all of Akre’s claims except her claim that WTVT retaliated against her in response to her threat to disclose the alleged news distortion to the FCC....... the jury did not believe the couple’s claim that the station bowed to pressure from Monsanto to alter the news report. ............ More importantly, and more relevant to the examination of whether WTVT actually asserted a”right to lie”in its newscasts, is that there is nothing on record to show that this argument was ever advanced in court.

Further evidence that WTVT did not assert at the trial court level any “right to lie”or distort the news is that neither Akre’s response to WTVT’s initial appeal brief nor the petition she and Wilson filed with the FCC make any reference at all to such a claim. Surely, had a claim for a First Amendment “right to lie” in news broadcasts been made at the trial court level, some mention of it would have found its way into either of these two documents (Akre’s brief to the appellate court runs 57 pages, and the FCC petition runs over 90 pages including appendices).

Basically Pal - Go Fish

 

[GreenBean]

I hold Mussolini in contempt, as did the communists of his time--at a time when the likes of Winston Churchill had the warmest things to say about him. Here are a few more quotes from The Doctrine of Fascism to make clear where he was actually coming from:





What can be meant by "Jacobinistic utopias and innovations" other than progressive politics? Isn't striving toward happiness on earth foundational for progressive politics?


So, opposed to classical liberalism and also to socialism? Is there some other liberalism that is not an amalgamation of these?



Such as the UN. But don't liberals tend to be big fans of those sorts of organizations?





Mussolini decrying the liberals' "welfare plantation."

EatTheBich - you seem to be all over the place on that post - and I'm not certain what you're trying to say or prove - but whatever it was you either failed to convey your point in anything resembling an organized manner - or perhaps I failed to understand -I dunno - Capice ?

 

[EatTheRich]

FOX, Lies & Videotape: debunking an internet myth

Another Liberal Urban Legend / Myth / Lie - Boy oh boy I wish you were a fish, because you are certainly easy to reel in - I mean you seem to swallow anything Big Brother throws at you - hook, line, and sinker .

Akre and Wilson sued WTVT alleging… that their terminations had been in retaliation for their resisting WTVT’s attempts to distort or suppress the BGH story and for threatening to report the alleged news distortion to the FCC. Akre also brought claims for declaratory relief and for breach of contract. After a four-week trial, claims. The trial court directed a verdict against Akre on her breach of contract claim, Akre abandoned her claim for declaratory relief, and the trial court let her whistle-blower claims go to the jury. The jury rejected all of Akre’s claims except her claim that WTVT retaliated against her in response to her threat to disclose the alleged news distortion to the FCC....... the jury did not believe the couple’s claim that the station bowed to pressure from Monsanto to alter the news report. ............ More importantly, and more relevant to the examination of whether WTVT actually asserted a”right to lie”in its newscasts, is that there is nothing on record to show that this argument was ever advanced in court.

Further evidence that WTVT did not assert at the trial court level any “right to lie”or distort the news is that neither Akre’s response to WTVT’s initial appeal brief nor the petition she and Wilson filed with the FCC make any reference at all to such a claim. Surely, had a claim for a First Amendment “right to lie” in news broadcasts been made at the trial court level, some mention of it would have found its way into either of these two documents (Akre’s brief to the appellate court runs 57 pages, and the FCC petition runs over 90 pages including appendices).

Basically Pal - Go Fish

http://www.2dca.org/opinions/Opinion_Pages/Opinion_Page_2003/February/February 14, 2003/2D01-529.pdf <--- court's decision in this case: consider the following

We agree with WTVT that the FCC’s policy against the intentional falsification of the news – which the FCC has called its “news distortion policy” – does not qualify as the required “law, rule, or regulation” under section 448.102.

Because the FCC’s news distortion policy is not a “law, rule, or regulation” under section 448.102, Akre has failed to state a claim under the whistle-blower's statute. Accordingly, we reverse the judgment in her favor and remand for entry of a judgment in favor of WTVT.

 

[EatTheRich]

EatTheBich - you seem to be all over the place on that post - and I'm not certain what you're trying to say or prove - but whatever it was you either failed to convey your point in anything resembling an organized manner - or perhaps I failed to understand -I dunno - Capice ?

Let me put it very simply: Mussolini and other fascists are consciously in opposition to progressive politics.

 

[EatTheRich]

Further evidence that WTVT did not assert at the trial court level any “right to lie”or distort the news is that neither Akre’s response to WTVT’s initial appeal brief nor the petition she and Wilson filed with the FCC make any reference at all to such a claim.

This is, of course, a deliberate case of misdirection. Akre WON relief at the trial court level ... which is why WTVT went to the APPELLATE court, where they made the argument that they had a right to distort the news.