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This is an invasion of America

sensible don

Governor
Supporting Member
Canada, the gateway into the US - SO NOW WE NEED ANOTHER BORDER WALL !

I mean 4 strands of barb wire or a 5 strand high tensile fence just isn't getting it done up north !
 

Number_58

I'm one of the deplorables lefty warns you about.
The difference between a legal and an illegal immigrant is the opportunity to immigrate legally. There are strict quotas for the number allowed to come legally, and they are set far below the number of immigrants needed to keep the U.S.’s economy from collapse, precisely so the ruling class can create a pariah layer of “illegal squatters” who can be split off and degraded as a prelude to a more general degradation of their working-class brothers and sisters who have a different immigration status.
Do you also oppose the fascist fire marshalls that enforce limits on the amount of people is shops and restaurants?

What about people that try and sneak into concerts, stadiums, etc without tickets?
 

EatTheRich

President
Do you also oppose the fascist fire marshalls that enforce limits on the amount of people is shops and restaurants?

What about people that try and sneak into concerts, stadiums, etc without tickets?
Not relevant analogies. Immigration well in excess of legally permitted levels is indispensable to the U.S., and immigration restrictions aren’t meant to keep people out but to create inequality and push them down
 

Number_58

I'm one of the deplorables lefty warns you about.
Not relevant analogies. Immigration well in excess of legally permitted levels is indispensable to the U.S., and immigration restrictions aren’t meant to keep people out but to create inequality and push them down
Because they aren't citizens here. No different than entering a concert without going through the correct process to get a ticket to attend.
 

Number_58

I'm one of the deplorables lefty warns you about.
If it were a concert that you had to be at or die, and there was no option to get tickets by going through the “correct process.”
So...people can traverse hundreds of miles to escape socialist oppression to enter a capitalist economy illegally; yet, you champion moving towards a socialist structure.

Brilliant concept.
 

EatTheRich

President
So...people can traverse hundreds of miles to escape socialist oppression to enter a capitalist economy illegally; yet, you champion moving towards a socialist structure.

Brilliant concept.
The vast majority come from more typical capitalist countries. A few come from socialist countries where the standard of living is undeniably higher than when those countries were capitalist but which have not yet caught up to the U.S. which has been so enriched by the extreme exploitation of the bulk of the world.
 

Number_58

I'm one of the deplorables lefty warns you about.
The vast majority come from more typical capitalist countries. A few come from socialist countries where the standard of living is undeniably higher than when those countries were capitalist but which have not yet caught up to the U.S. which has been so enriched by the extreme exploitation of the bulk of the world.
"The 2022 numbers were driven in part by sharp increases in the number of Venezuelans, Cubans and Nicaraguans"

Yeah, shining examples of capitalism...

 

middleview

President
Supporting Member
The vast majority come from more typical capitalist countries. A few come from socialist countries where the standard of living is undeniably higher than when those countries were capitalist but which have not yet caught up to the U.S. which has been so enriched by the extreme exploitation of the bulk of the world.
People have been fleeing Cuba for 70 years. In fact the majority are fleeing from gang rule, not capitalism. Haiti is overrun and hasn't got any elected officials left.
Venezuela has been destroyed by the perverted implementation of government control...It is neither capitalism nor communism.
 

EatTheRich

President
"The 2022 numbers were driven in part by sharp increases in the number of Venezuelans, Cubans and Nicaraguans"

Yeah, shining examples of capitalism...

Venezuela and Nicaragua are certainly capitalist. Nicaragua hasn’t had a communistic government since the Sandinistas’ abandonment of communism in the mid-1980s and never established socialism. Venezuela’s economic system and (left-populist) government have always been objectively capitalist. Cuba is certainly socialist and currently going through a rough patch, but still far better off than countries comparably situated pre-1959.
People have been fleeing Cuba for 70 years. In fact the majority are fleeing from gang rule, not capitalism. Haiti is overrun and hasn't got any elected officials left.
Venezuela has been destroyed by the perverted implementation of government control...It is neither capitalism nor communism.
“Gang rule” reflects … well, not capitalism so much as a tenuous system of class rule. Thus in the current period of capitalism’s death throes and socialism’s birth pangs we see it becoming increasingly common in capitalist society and still too common in socialist society as well.
 

Dawg

President
Supporting Member
"The 2022 numbers were driven in part by sharp increases in the number of Venezuelans, Cubans and Nicaraguans"

Yeah, shining examples of capitalism...

It's finally WOKE border state dems

Exclusive: Democrat Mark Kelly Wants a Border Deal, Even if it Means Backing GOP House (msn.com)
 

Dawg

President
Supporting Member
Venezuela and Nicaragua are certainly capitalist. Nicaragua hasn’t had a communistic government since the Sandinistas’ abandonment of communism in the mid-1980s and never established socialism. Venezuela’s economic system and (left-populist) government have always been objectively capitalist. Cuba is certainly socialist and currently going through a rough patch, but still far better off than countries comparably situated pre-1959.

“Gang rule” reflects … well, not capitalism so much as a tenuous system of class rule. Thus in the current period of capitalism’s death throes and socialism’s birth pangs we see it becoming increasingly common in capitalist society and still too common in socialist society as well.
Mayorkas: ‘The number of people that are arriving at our border is at an extraordinary height’ (msn.com)
 

EatTheRich

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