This perfectly encapsulates the situation in Ukraine...

[Raoul_Luke]

People also “predicted” that declining oil revenues and Russia’s declining standard of living would inevitably lead to war, which it did on multiple occasions in the Caucasus (far from the site of the laconic gestures toward NATO expansion) prior to Russia’s latest military adventure in Ukraine.

Neither of those declines were, in fact, factual. But you'll do anything to service your masters in the MIC, though, am I right?

 

[middleview]

It is when it involves, you know, weapons emplacements.

So a nation has no right to have an army or "weapons emplacements" even if they are defensive.

Did Russia have weapons emplacements on the border with Ukraine? Hell, the Russians moved their troops into Ukraine in 2014. Just what weapons emplacements were they acting to remove?

In fact, what offensive weapons have been placed in Poland, Hungary, Lithuania, Estonia, Latvia or the Czech republic?

It would take a hundred thousand or more troops to actually threaten to attack Russia...and nothing like that in the way of Nato deployments was in the works.
Putin wanted to steal Ukraine for no other reason than expansion of imperial Russia.

 

[georgephillip]

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This "counter offensive" has been the most announced military operation in history. It has been "imminent" for months now, and has been taking on all the hallmarks of the classic con - we are any day now ready to launch our flux capacitor and we just need you to send us more money or we will fail and you will lose your entire "investment."

Now there's this:

Ukraine's counter-offensive against Russia has begun, one of President Zelensky's most-senior advisers said this morning.

Mikhail Podolyak, head of the presidential office, said Thursday that operations to push Russia back to its borders 'has already been underway for days.'

Speaking to Italian radio station Rai1, Mr Podolyak said: 'It's an intense war on 1500 kilometers of border, but the actions have already started.'

Ukraine's counter-offensive HAS begun

Mikhail Podolyak, head of the presidential office, said Thursday that operations to push Russia back to its borders 'has already been underway for days.'

www.dailymail.co.uk

But wait, there's more:

Ukraine's military commander-in-chief signaled on Saturday that the long-anticipated counterattack against Russia is approaching.

In a short message posted on Telegram, Gen. Valerii Zaluzhnyi, dubbed Ukraine's 'iron general,' wrote: "It's time to get back what's ours."

The message accompanied a minute-long cinematic video of Ukranian soldiers repeating a chant and handling various weapons.

Ukrainian officials have been boasting about a counterattack against Russia for weeks as the war passes its 15-month mark.

Ukraine's 'Iron General' signals an impending counteroffensive: 'It's time to get back what's ours'

Gen. Valerii Zaluzhnyi, who has been dubbed Ukraine's 'iron general,' posted a Telegram message on Saturday morning.

ca.sports.yahoo.com

So which is it - is it "imminent" or "underway?" Nobody seems to know - wouldn't we know by the news reports of fighting in key contested areas? Maybe, maybe not. The press has been serially reporting Ukrainian "battlefield wins" ever since the war started, but the pictures we see are of Ukrainian cities decimated by relentless Russian missile and drone attacks.

ukraine destroyed - Bing images

If that is winning, I'd hate to see what it looks like if they "start" losing...

What's the weather in Ukraine?
Last I heard it was still too wet to take tanks off paved roads.
I also heard a report on Judging Freedom where Ray McGovern speculated General Zaluzhnyi may be dead or incapacitated.

 

[georgephillip]

Losing is 15,000 Russian Dead..100,000 casualties all for basically nothing

Not if Ukrainians have lost 7 times more dead from a much smaller population size.
Some accounts put Ukrainian fatalities well north of 100,000.

https://euobserver.com/ukraine/156836

"Russia is firing 'between 20,000 to 50,000 artillery rounds per day' and Ukraine '4,000 to 7,000 artillery rounds daily' in southeast Ukraine, according to an EU memo dated 13 March."

 

[EatTheRich]

Never fear - the precise INSTANT that a non-Democrat is elected POTUS, he (and his fellow lefty automatons) will summarily REJECT and OPPOSE the war. “No blood for borscht!”. All the lisping leftist limpwrists will revert to flaming Code Pink form.

Until that time, however, lots of death, mayhem, destruction, butchery…and death CHEERING (as evidenced above where one of the forum’s many diseased categorized deaths as “good”).

The proletarian left’s principled opposition to Russia’s imperialist war, and the cheers lovers of freedom throw up when the warmongers’ aims are frustrated, have nothing to do with who is in the White House.

 

[EatTheRich]

Neither of those declines were, in fact, factual. But you'll do anything to service your masters in the MIC, though, am I right?

What Happened to Oil Prices in 2020

Oil made headlines for plummeting prices in 2020 due to the impact of COVID-19. Here, we review what happened to oil prices in 2020.

www.investopedia.com

Russia's rich double their wealth, but poor were better off in 1990s | Russia | The Guardian

<p>Fall of Soviet Union brought wealth only to society's elite, researchers say</p>

amp.theguardian.com

You may have noticed that I am opposing the concentrated capital behind Russia’s militaristic regime, while you are supporting it.

 

[Spamature]

If this:

ukraine destroyed - Bing images

Is your idea of "winning" there is something wrong with you.

Yeah, no need to brag, we know how tough the Russian army is against defenseless civilians targets.

And these are the people you are rooting for.

Deplorable !

 

[middleview]

Not if Ukrainians have lost 7 times more dead from a much smaller population size.
Some accounts put Ukrainian fatalities well north of 100,000.

https://euobserver.com/ukraine/156836

"Russia is firing 'between 20,000 to 50,000 artillery rounds per day' and Ukraine '4,000 to 7,000 artillery rounds daily' in southeast Ukraine, according to an EU memo dated 13 March."

If Russia were not using all that ammunition to kill civilians it might make a difference. As it is, the Ukrainians are not intimidated by the criminal attacks on civilian targets and the Ukrainian military is losing far less men than the Russians. That is what happens when you engage in infantry assaults against dug in and dedicated troops who are defending their own land.

 

[Raoul_Luke]

Yeah, no need to brag, we know how tough the Russian army is against defenseless civilians targets.

And these are the people you are rooting for.

Deplorable !

You are apparently "rooting" for more dead Ukrainians - however many it takes to put that trillion $ into the MIC's pockets.

 

[Raoul_Luke]

What Happened to Oil Prices in 2020

Oil made headlines for plummeting prices in 2020 due to the impact of COVID-19. Here, we review what happened to oil prices in 2020.

www.investopedia.com

Russia's rich double their wealth, but poor were better off in 1990s | Russia | The Guardian

<p>Fall of Soviet Union brought wealth only to society's elite, researchers say</p>

amp.theguardian.com

You may have noticed that I am opposing the concentrated capital behind Russia’s militaristic regime, while you are supporting it.

You certainly (obviously) aren't "opposing the concentrated capital" in the MIC behind the US' militarist regime. The only thing I am "supporting" is the end of the war.

 

[Raoul_Luke]

What's the weather in Ukraine?
Last I heard it was still too wet to take tanks off paved roads.
I also heard a report on Judging Freedom where Ray McGovern speculated General Zaluzhnyi may be dead or incapacitated.

All I know for sure is that the depiction of the conflict in the (western) media is not accurate.

 

[Raoul_Luke]

So a nation has no right to have an army or "weapons emplacements" even if they are defensive.

Did Russia have weapons emplacements on the border with Ukraine? Hell, the Russians moved their troops into Ukraine in 2014. Just what weapons emplacements were they acting to remove?

In fact, what offensive weapons have been placed in Poland, Hungary, Lithuania, Estonia, Latvia or the Czech republic?

It would take a hundred thousand or more troops to actually threaten to attack Russia...and nothing like that in the way of Nato deployments was in the works.
Putin wanted to steal Ukraine for no other reason than expansion of imperial Russia.

The latest NATO "defensive" missiles are essentially not technically disparate from offensive missiles.

 

[RickWA]

The proletarian left’s principled opposition to Russia’s imperialist war, and the cheers lovers of freedom throw up when the warmongers’ aims are frustrated, have nothing to do with who is in the White House.

Baloney. Lefty will do EXACTLY what I wrote. Lefty is mentally ill and worships his political party.

 

[Sickofleft]

Surrender to the threats from a dictator. Surrender in the face of brutal invasion and occupation....to the outright theft of sovereign land and subjugation of the population.

Good idea, Neville.

Virtue signaling idiocy, while thousands die as two corrupt Governments slug it out..... your noble cause is bullshit.

 

[EatTheRich]

You certainly (obviously) aren't "opposing the concentrated capital" in the MIC behind the US' militarist regime. The only thing I am "supporting" is the end of the war.

Of course I am. They are in fact my primary target. But the opportunist mentality of reinforcing Russian imperialism as a counterweight to U.S. imperialism only strengthens the international power of finance capital, allowing U.S. imperialism or some equally pernicious equivalent to become more entrenched.

Of course it is not, or you would not be frantically trying to place political obstacles in the path of the most realistic path to an end to this war and the prevention of future wars driven by the Russian-imperialist imperative, namely Ukrainian victory.

 

[EatTheRich]

Baloney. Lefty will do EXACTLY what I wrote. Lefty is mentally ill and worships his political party.

The left has several political parties, among which the Democratic Party does not number. The communist perspective on the war is the same in every country and has not changed from the Obama to the Trump to the Biden administration.

 

[RickWA]

The left has several political parties, among which the Democratic Party does not number. The communist perspective on the war is the same in every country and has not changed from the Obama to the Trump to the Biden administration.

In this country, crackpot leftists are overwhelmingly Democrats…with a tiny fragmented remnant in Green and Commie entities.

 

[EatTheRich]

In this country, crackpot leftists are overwhelmingly Democrats…with a tiny fragmented remnant in Green and Commie entities.

“Crackpot leftists” like Bernie Sanders, who is more conservative than Dwight D. Eisenhower?

 

[RickWA]

“Crackpot leftists” like Bernie Sanders, who is more conservative than Dwight D. Eisenhower?

Yes, Bernie’s a kook/crank. Only a stark raving lunatic would call him conservative.

 

[middleview]

Virtue signaling idiocy, while thousands die as two corrupt Governments slug it out..... your noble cause is bullshit.

Are the people of Ukraine fighting back? I support them. Would they be better off if they simply surrender?