Total US Deaths in March 2020 are Actually Down 15% from Average of prior 4 years!!!

[now_what]

Except it doesn't. See post #15 in this thread + the video i linked this morning re: inflated numbers, plz.


No one here is calling it an outright hoax, per se. Rather, that the severity of it is being exaggerated.

Some want truth. Others want a political consequence.

Either way, it’s much higher than the flu. Sorry.

 

[Nutty Cortez]

Except it doesn't. See post #15 in this thread + the video i linked this morning re: inflated numbers, plz.


No one here is calling it an outright hoax, per se. Rather, that the severity of it is being exaggerated.

Some want truth. Others want a political consequence.

Dr. Birx says that anyone who dies with coronavirus, regardless of any underlying health condition, is being counted as a death from coronavirus.

"We've taken a very liberal approach to mortality."

if someone dies with Covid-19, we are counting that as a Covid-19 death.


That word “with” is a key word. If you die “with it” but not “because of it,” they’re still counting it as a Covid-19 death.

If you die due to Covid-19, it’s a Covid-19 death.

If you have it but die from something else, they’re still chalking it up as a Covid-19 death, and she admitted that

 

[Emily]

Either way, it’s much higher than the flu. Sorry.

i don't think it is and i don't think you are.

 

[now_what]

i don't think it is and i don't think you are.

I’m sorry that you’re wrong, yup. And it absolutely is. You think all of the nurses and doctors are lying about their struggles, but your dear master is being honest? Go get the virus then. Enjoy.

 

[Emily]

You think all of the nurses and doctors are lying about their struggles,

No, i don't. Do you think all of the doctors and nurses saying that the tests are unreliable, the numbers are being fudged are lying about it?

but your dear master is being honest?

Who do you think is my "dear master?" Trump? You don't know me very well.

Go get the virus then.

i won't (but your well-wishes are noted). If i did, i'd be uncomfortable for a bit, then i'd be fine. Just like 99.7% of the people with the virus, not counting those who never manifest symptoms.

 

[now_what]

No, i don't. Do you think all of the doctors and nurses saying that the tests are unreliable, the numbers are being fudged are lying about it?

Who do you think is my "dear master?" Trump? You don't know me very well.

i won't (but your well-wishes are noted). If i did, i'd be uncomfortable for a bit, then i'd be fine. Just like 99.7% of the people with the virus, not counting those who never manifest symptoms.

I believe there are false positives, and also many missed cases. I believe the latter has a higher impact than the former. Either way, this is much deadlier than H1N1 was, and it isn't close. It only took 6 weeks for COVID to surpass the death total of all of H1N1 in 2009.

It's likely around 99%, so yes, likely you would be fine. You certainly don't know that, but I like your odds.

 

[make speed limit 45]

Dr. Birx says that anyone who dies with coronavirus, regardless of any underlying health condition, is being counted as a death from coronavirus.

And americans are finding out about that. The fake news press says covid has killed 21,000 americans but it's more like 3,000.

 

[make speed limit 45]

Wait a minute here, if this was all just a hoax, then all those posts about the infomercial vp trump zinc aided cure were for what reason?

No one denies covid19 exists. But it's just a new flu strain like happens multiple times every year.

 

[make speed limit 45]

Either way, it’s much higher than the flu. Sorry.

In the 2017-18 flu season , the flu killed 80,000 americans according to the CDC. With covid we're at 21,000 and no one even believes that number since the CDC this year is counting nearly every death as a covid death.

 

[make speed limit 45]

I’m sorry that you’re wrong, yup. And it absolutely is. You think all of the nurses and doctors are lying about their struggles, but your dear master is being honest? Go get the virus then. Enjoy.

HAHAHA. Those struggling nurses are just the ones the fake news press puts on tv. There are plenty of nurses who say things are normal but the tv networks won't air their comments. THINK

 

[now_what]

In the 2017-18 flu season , the flu killed 80,000 americans according to the CDC. With covid we're at 21,000 and no one even believes that number since the CDC this year is counting nearly every death as a covid death.

Wow, trump must be an idiot then, as he said we would lose 100,000-200,000 people. What a moron.

 

[now_what]

HAHAHA. Those struggling nurses are just the ones the fake news press puts on tv. There are plenty of nurses who say things are normal but the tv networks won't air their comments. THINK

Wow, trump is such a liar then.

 

[make speed limit 45]

Wow, trump must be an idiot then, as he said we would lose 100,000-200,000 people. What a moron.

Trump never said that though he may have said it was possible. Please stop lying.

 

[now_what]

Trump never said that though he may have said it was possible. Please stop lying.

He said that a number under 100,000 would be a "win". That's pretty pathetic.

 

[EatTheRich]

Yet we don't mandate it every flu season. Nor did we for previous recent pandemics/epidemics. Hmmm?

There hasn’t been a disease this contagious and dangerous in the imperialist world since measles vaccinations became widely available. If no measures were taken to contain the flu, it could kill millions worldwide every year. If no measures had been taken to contain this, it would almost surely have killed tens of millions.

 

[EatTheRich]

Dr. Birx says that anyone who dies with coronavirus, regardless of any underlying health condition, is being counted as a death from coronavirus.

"We've taken a very liberal approach to mortality."

if someone dies with Covid-19, we are counting that as a Covid-19 death.


That word “with” is a key word. If you die “with it” but not “because of it,” they’re still counting it as a Covid-19 death.

If you die due to Covid-19, it’s a Covid-19 death.

If you have it but die from something else, they’re still chalking it up as a Covid-19 death, and she admitted that

That’s not what CDC guidelines say. Anyway, that’s likely more than offset by those who die of Cpvid-19 but have their deaths coded as something else because they weren’t diagnosed. Not to mention, most of those dying with COVId-19 almost surely were dying of COVId-19, or do you think it is just a coincidence that they were among the few infected during the 2-week period while they were infected and that happened to be when they died also?

 

[excalibur]

Trump needs to let businesses reopen except for the really useless ones like entertainment. Let the super-rich actors and jocks do something else.

You quarantine sick people, not the healthy. This appears more and more like a trial run by the deep state for something else.

 

[excalibur]

this has a much higher mortality rate. Do we run into ventilator shortages every flu season? LOL

Only there were no ventilator shortages.

 

[excalibur]

Dr. Birx says that anyone who dies with coronavirus, regardless of any underlying health condition, is being counted as a death from coronavirus.

"We've taken a very liberal approach to mortality."

if someone dies with Covid-19, we are counting that as a Covid-19 death.


That word “with” is a key word. If you die “with it” but not “because of it,” they’re still counting it as a Covid-19 death.

If you die due to Covid-19, it’s a Covid-19 death.

If you have it but die from something else, they’re still chalking it up as a Covid-19 death, and she admitted that

See this thread:

https://www.politicaljack.com/threads/nyc-adds-nearly-4-000-people-who-never-tested-positive-to-coronavirus-death-tolls.131640/#post-2701942

 

[Emily]

There hasn’t been a disease this contagious and dangerous in the imperialist world since measles vaccinations became widely available. If no measures were taken to contain the flu, it could kill millions worldwide every year. If no measures had been taken to contain this, it would almost surely have killed tens of millions.

So it is contended.
Unlike the ardently partisan, some among us view and process information from multiple sources with various perspectives. Those who do and who aren't inclined to accept sheepishly the veracity of government or MSM narratives must conclude from the evidence available that the contention isn't based solely on facts.