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middleview

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There were communists and communist sympathizers throughout government. China becoming communist was facilitated by their presence in the State Dept. of the time.

I'm not going to re-litigate the Red Scare but it did what it was intended to do which was stop the red advance in this country and it did so for a number of decades. Nobody was arrested, beaten, tortured, forcibly deported, taken out and shot so McCarthyism was well worth it.

I look at how Hillary got away with all her crap (and many in the Obama admin) and can see exactly the kind of evil deep-state forces McCarthy dealt with.
If you knew anything at all of the history of China from the 1930s to the end of WWII you'd know that there was a war and Chiang Kai Shek lost. How the state department interfered with his efforts is something you'll have to explain. The US gave Chiang weapons, planes, pilots....and then ships to move to Taiwan when he lost.

The nationalists were not as popular as the communists. We armed the nationalists, Russia armed the communists. The nationalist movement was divided and prone to corruption, with Chiang confiscating a huge amount of US gold and goods and moving it to Taiwan. That caused the nationalist government to collapse.

McCarthy was a drunk. His exploits as "Tail Gunner Joe" should tell you what he was. Were you aware that he lobbied for the release of SS soldiers convicted of the slaughter of US soldiers at Malmedy?
 

EatTheRich

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Bullshit. He went after people who weren't even in government...like Dalton Trumbo.
He didn't have evidence...he made shit up. Even Eisenhower hated Joe.
McCarthy no doubt went after Trumbo, but it was mostly the House Committee (chaired by John Stephens Wood but starring Nixon) and the MPAA (headed by Eric Johnston and backed by Goldwyn, etc.) going after him with the full backing of the leadership of the Screen Actors Guild (Reagan).

The witch hunt was bigger than McCarthy, it was about bringing the unions to heel. The ruling class had to slow down the witch hunt to stop McCarthy who threatened an unwelcome fascist reckoning, and the workers slowed down the witch hunt further with the exposure of the COINTELPRO files and the Socialist Workers’ Party lawsuit against the FBI. But it continues to this day in other forms.
 

EatTheRich

President
There were communists and communist sympathizers throughout government. China becoming communist was facilitated by their presence in the State Dept. of the time.

I'm not going to re-litigate the Red Scare but it did what it was intended to do which was stop the red advance in this country and it did so for a number of decades. Nobody was arrested, beaten, tortured, forcibly deported, taken out and shot so McCarthyism was well worth it.

I look at how Hillary got away with all her crap (and many in the Obama admin) and can see exactly the kind of evil deep-state forces McCarthy dealt with.
China overthrew capitalism through a guerrilla army fueled by mass support. The U.S. had no power to stop them. And they feared that unless they brought the workers to heel, the same sort of popular takeover could occur in the U.S.
 
China overthrew capitalism through a guerrilla army fueled by mass support. The U.S. had no power to stop them. And they feared that unless they brought the workers to heel, the same sort of popular takeover could occur in the U.S.
The leftist State Dept. officials in China reported back in such a fashion as to undermined the nationalist forces and undergirded the communist forces.
 

EatTheRich

President
The leftist State Dept. officials in China reported back in such a fashion as to undermined the nationalist forces and undergirded the communist forces.
Because they wanted to beat Japan and keep Japan out of a war with the Soviet Union, and the People’s Liberation Army was effective against Japan, while the Republic of China’s National Revolutionary Army was not.
 
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