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Trump: Gimme back those documents the FBI planted!

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EatTheRich

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Raoul_Luke said:
From the democrats' covid induced crappy economy, not Trump's peak.

Frankly the American people give your take here a big:



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www.bloomberg.com

The Most Americans Since 2008 Say Economy Is Getting Worse

About 69% of Americans think the US economy is getting worse, the highest since 2008, according to an ABC News/Ipsos poll.
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Nothing to see here, move along...
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The Democrats didn’t cause Trump’s mishandling of the Covid crisis which exacerbated an economic crisis already on the brink of a crash.
 
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EatTheRich

President
Raoul_Luke said:
I said "it appears to be a quid pro quo." What part of that is so hard for you to understand? You want to send him to prison for the rest of his life for it when, in fact, it's not all that different from Brandon threatening them to make them fire Shokin. Yes, there's some bullshit statute involved that Congress passed, which is likely unconstitutional under the separation of powers clause. Get over it. Nobody in their right mind thinks that's a huge deal...which excludes (obviously) you hacks.
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Biden threatening Ukraine to advance long-standing U.S. policy by strengthening Ukraine is quite different from Trump threatening Ukraine to advance his personal political interest even at the expense of Ukraine’s security.
 
middleview

middleview

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EatTheRich said:
Ukraine is considerably weaker due to Trump’s sabotage.
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I'd have to disagree with the idea that Trump is responsible for Putin's war. I read Putin's decision as based on the disunity in Nato and the west...especially the US. I believe he thought he'd be condemned, but Nato would do nothing. That is the only explanation I can see in sending an army prepared for a few days of fighting.
 
Bugsy McGurk

Bugsy McGurk

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middleview said:
I'd have to disagree with the idea that Trump is responsible for Putin's war. I read Putin's decision as based on the disunity in Nato and the west...especially the US. I believe he thought he'd be condemned, but Nato would do nothing. That is the only explanation I can see in sending an army prepared for a few days of fighting.
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Putin did think that NATO and the US might sit back. That’s because Trump spent four years trying to neuter NATO and kneecap Ukraine
 
Raoul_Luke

Raoul_Luke

I feel a bit lightheaded. Maybe you should drive.
middleview said:
Was Ukraine stronger in 2020 than it was in 2017? Trump did sell them 39 Javelin launchers, but required they be kept a long way away from Russian tanks...so no help there. Biden bumped up military aid a lot as soon as he took office.
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I'm sure the Ukrainian people are very grateful...

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That's what that "military aid" got them. You happy now?
 
middleview

middleview

President
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Raoul_Luke said:
I'm sure the Ukrainian people are very grateful...

ukraine destruction - Google Search

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That's what that "military aid" got them. You happy now?
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We provided the weapons the Ukrainian government requested. The people of Ukraine regard Zelensky as a hero, as does most of the world. You would have surrendered and the people of Ukraine would be back under the yoke of Kremlin control.

Yes, the people of Ukraine are grateful....curious that you'd have preferred surrender to the courage shown by the people of that country...
 
Raoul_Luke

Raoul_Luke

I feel a bit lightheaded. Maybe you should drive.
EatTheRich said:
I mean, they’d be much worse off if Trump were still in office and holding up military aid to get personal political favors and help his Russian patrons, no?
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Um, no.

Trump in office:

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Brandon in office:

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You notice any difference?
 
Raoul_Luke

Raoul_Luke

I feel a bit lightheaded. Maybe you should drive.
EatTheRich said:
You think Ukraine would be better off if they had 4 more years of Russia getting stronger at their expense?
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You think Ukraine will be better off after they have 6 more years of their buildings and people being bombed?
 
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EatTheRich

President
Raoul_Luke said:
You think Ukraine will be better off after they have 6 more years of their buildings and people being bombed?
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I think they’ll be better off for having some capacity to fight back. There’s a reason Putin invaded shortly after Biden took office instead of waiting for Biden’s presidency to have an effect … Trump had put him in the most advantageous position possible and he wanted to take advantage of it.
 
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