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EatTheRich

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To remind you...the US completely withdrew our troops from South Korea and the result was the invasion by the Soviet built military of the North. The North has refused to sign a peace agreement and that has meant a US military presence in South Korea from the end of the war till now. The North has a military that is twice as large as the South. The North is building nuclear weapons, the South is not. The dictator in the North has used the fictional threat of imminent invasion by the US and the South to stay in power.

If the North would demilitarize the US would withdraw from the South.
S. Korea does have nuclear weapons according to many proliferation experts and the U.S. certainly does. N. Korea has consistently proposed a nuclear-free Korean Peninsula and has been unable to get the U.S. to agree. That it can’t reach a peace agreement with such an unreasonable aggressor is not primarily N. Korea’s fault.

If N. Korea demilitarized, the U.S. would dispense with the pretense of S. Korean independence and establish direct colonial rule over North and South Korea.
 

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247 Mass shootings as of May 31 compared to Obama's 31 in seven years.
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G-7 Leaders Laugh When Biden Forgets South Africa Has ...
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World leaders meeting at the G-7 Summit had a laugh at President Joe Biden’s expense when he reminded British Prime Minister Boris Johnson to introduce the president of South Africa after Johnson
And what Biden policy or executive order can you claim caused the shootings?

G7 leaders were laughing with Joe...unlike when UN representatives laughed at Trump.
 

Drumcollie

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The highest unemployment of all time in the U.S. was under Franklin Roosevelt. Biden was elected and is clearly not a Nazi. My vote for worst president is Jackson.
You Vote for worst President is a (D). That is Hilarious. Biden is no Nazi cuz during peacetime the Nazi's used their policies to stop the depression in Germany. Biden is no Nazi.
 

EatTheRich

President
Unless and until you come up with that one good example of a communist state, that people run to instead of away from, please excuse my hardeharharhar at your never ending anti-capitalist screeds of yours
The goal of the communist movement is a stateless society. The transitional states sometimes called “dictatorships of the proletariat” are by definition historical archaic forms in that they preserve the structure of the very class, statist society they are making obsolete. Besides the many well known cases of people seeking asylum in the dictatorships of the proletariat, every one of the hundreds of millions taking part in socialist revolution was seeking to escape from capitalist society into socialism.
 

middleview

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S. Korea does have nuclear weapons according to many proliferation experts and the U.S. certainly does. N. Korea has consistently proposed a nuclear-free Korean Peninsula and has been unable to get the U.S. to agree. That it can’t reach a peace agreement with such an unreasonable aggressor is not primarily N. Korea’s fault.

If N. Korea demilitarized, the U.S. would dispense with the pretense of S. Korean independence and establish direct colonial rule over North and South Korea.
South Korea has no nuclear weapons. The effort to produce weapons ended when France shutdown the plan to provide a reactor to South Korea.

The US withdrew all nuclear weapons from the South in 1992.

Again...the US withdrew all military forces from South Korea in 1948. Two years later the North Koreans invaded the South. How you continue to claim the US is the aggressor is beyond me. If we intended to do that we could have destroyed the Chinese army in 1952, instead of fighting them to a standstill. China had no nuclear weapons. We could have destroyed the Chinese ability to supply their army by dropping a couple of nukes on the Yalu.
 

EatTheRich

President
South Korea has no nuclear weapons. The effort to produce weapons ended when France shutdown the plan to provide a reactor to South Korea.

The US withdrew all nuclear weapons from the South in 1992.

Again...the US withdrew all military forces from South Korea in 1948. Two years later the North Koreans invaded the South. How you continue to claim the US is the aggressor is beyond me. If we intended to do that we could have destroyed the Chinese army in 1952, instead of fighting them to a standstill. China had no nuclear weapons. We could have destroyed the Chinese ability to supply their army by dropping a couple of nukes on the Yalu.
The U.S. did not withdraw all forces, if they had there’s no way the Rhee regime (whose forces were essentially auxiliary American forces) would have maintained itself in power. The U.S. rulers blanched at nuking the Chinese because they feared the working-class backlash (a revolutionary repudiation that would have swept them from power).
 

middleview

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The U.S. did not withdraw all forces, if they had there’s no way the Rhee regime (whose forces were essentially auxiliary American forces) would have maintained itself in power. The U.S. rulers blanched at nuking the Chinese because they feared the working-class backlash (a revolutionary repudiation that would have swept them from power).
There were no US combat troops in South Korea on the day of the invasion.

You assume there was support in the US for the communist invasion. There was not.
 
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EatTheRich

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There were no US combat troops in South Korea on the day of the invasion.

You assume there was support in the US for the communist invasion. There was not.
Of course there was … hence the massive witch hunt to purge the unions of their leadership and silence the widespread viewpoint of the pro-communist dissidents.
 

Bernard_Fokke

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We now have nearly 200 million people who have either been vaccinated or have had Covid and are now resistant to further infection. Our economy is returning to normal. The international community is reacting positively to President Biden and they've welcomed him warmly. They agree with his opinion on Putin and support him in communicating with Putin on Russian hacking and aggression.

Trump's real contribution has been to show us what a truly f*cked up president looks like...kinda like banging your head against the wall because it feels so good when it stops...so now we have a president who represents us as a gentleman and patriot....rather than an offensive blowhard who sucks up to our enemies.

Did you know that Trump's pal, Kim Jong Un continued to test missiles even after the love letters from Donald? Did you know Iran accelerated their nuclear weapons program because Trump dumped the agreement we had with them? Now that Trump has done us the favor of moving out of the WH and Biden can restart real foreign policy....maybe we can get the Iranians to return to the treaty.
We'll pin this one up next to the South shall rise again, and shit floats.
 

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Of course there was … hence the massive witch hunt to purge the unions of their leadership and silence the widespread viewpoint of the pro-communist dissidents.
McCarthy got a lot of mileage out of propagating the fear of communism. Why do you think it was so difficult to discredit him?

No. There was little support for communism after the Berlin blockade and airlift (1948) or the numerous confrontations between the west and Russia after 1945.

The invasion by the North had no support in the US. There were no US troops in the South and we had to rush inexperienced troops from Japan to help slow down the communist army.

The north had been well equipped by the Russians. The South had no airforce, no tanks and little other than small arms to fight with.
 
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EatTheRich

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McCarthy got a lot of mileage out of propagating the fear of communism. Why do you think it was so difficult to discredit him?

No. There was little support for communism after the Berlin blockade and airlift (1948) or the numerous confrontations between the west and Russia after 1945.

The invasion by the North had no support in the US. There were no US troops in the South and we had to rush inexperienced troops from Japan to help slow down the communist army.

The north had been well equipped by the Russians. The South had no airforce, no tanks and little other than small arms to fight with.
It was so difficult to discredit him because his basic premises were widely shared by Truman, Humphrey, Eisenhower, Taft, etc. … reflecting the very real communist influence in this country including communist or pseudo-communist control over many of the major unions and considerable adherence among intellectuals and workers alike. The U.S. was caught flat-footed due to the “bring us home” GI mutinies that frustrated the military brass’s plans for an immediate WWIII.
 

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It was so difficult to discredit him because his basic premises were widely shared by Truman, Humphrey, Eisenhower, Taft, etc. … reflecting the very real communist influence in this country including communist or pseudo-communist control over many of the major unions and considerable adherence among intellectuals and workers alike. The U.S. was caught flat-footed due to the “bring us home” GI mutinies that frustrated the military brass’s plans for an immediate WWIII.
you are so wrong I just don't know anything I could post would help you.
 

EatTheRich

President
you are so wrong I just don't know anything I could post would help you.
Unions dominated by communists at the time of the Korean War: Laborers Union, International Longshore and Warehouse Union, United Electrical workers, International Ladies Garment Workers Union. Unions with considerable communist influence (including major strikes led by communists): United Auto Workers. United Steel Workers of America, United Mine Workers of America, National Education Association, International Brotherhood of Teamsters.
 

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Unions dominated by communists at the time of the Korean War: Laborers Union, International Longshore and Warehouse Union, United Electrical workers, International Ladies Garment Workers Union. Unions with considerable communist influence (including major strikes led by communists): United Auto Workers. United Steel Workers of America, United Mine Workers of America, National Education Association, International Brotherhood of Teamsters.
Unions were dominated by the mob...like Jimmy Hoffa.

Eisenhower hated McCarthy.

Truman never supported McCarthy's attacks on members of the government and called him an animal.

 

EatTheRich

President
Unions were dominated by the mob...like Jimmy Hoffa.

Eisenhower hated McCarthy.

Truman never supported McCarthy's attacks on members of the government and called him an animal.

The mob took over certain unions with the help of the bosses who preferred them to the rank-and-file-backed class-struggle leaderships they muscled aside. Truman didn't like McCarthy because he targeted Democrats, but he played a major role in starting the witch hunt that fueled McCarthyism. Eisenhower shut down McCarthy when he challenged his own leadership of the country, but he earlier rode his coat-tails to victory.
 

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The mob took over certain unions with the help of the bosses who preferred them to the rank-and-file-backed class-struggle leaderships they muscled aside. Truman didn't like McCarthy because he targeted Democrats, but he played a major role in starting the witch hunt that fueled McCarthyism. Eisenhower shut down McCarthy when he challenged his own leadership of the country, but he earlier rode his coat-tails to victory.
Dude...there has never been widespread support for communism within the unions or the United States. Truman didn't like McCarthy because of the bullshit about hundreds of State Department employees being secret communists.

Eisenhower won 55% of the vote and 442 electoral college votes. He absolutely did not need help from a twit like McCarthy. The overwhelming vote for Eisenhower shows just how much anti-communism influenced the election.
 
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